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Please equip OtR and/or DS

it is hilarious how in their pathetic attempt to make perks not mandatory they make them even more so, now that no one carries BT you HAVE to have OtR if you don't want to be tunneled.

Comments

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    I use off the record but not ds because it's a ######### perk now

  • BadZilla
    BadZilla Member Posts: 467

    OTR and DS combo is not that great since DS timer runs out way before OTR , if you get tunneled and run the killer ( usually longer than DS timer in most cases) only OTR will benefit you or it will give you a hit boost that will extend the chase long enough for DS timer to run out every time. (In case you get face camped and killer never leaves the hook then the combo works but in normal circumstances you gonna waste a perk slot equipping both of these).

  • kisfenkin
    kisfenkin Member Posts: 619

    Just bring borrowed time.

  • INoLuv
    INoLuv Member Posts: 464

    Use kindred instead, everyone is allergic to it, they prefer to run around the hook while the killer camps instead of doing gens

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,487

    Bond+Kindred+OpenHanded+BT/OtR is the way to go, baby!

    Survivors are somehow allergic to this, as you say, and claim that SWFs basically get this information without burning up a perk slot, but this people totally sleep on the fact that SEEING is infinitely superior to HEARING! Yeah, it might be nice to hear your buddy say "I am coming to shack from the mid of the map with the killer in tow!!!", but its something totally different to actually see everyone on half the map around you and getting a very good general feel of whats actually going on. No one (unless they are really professional gamers for a living and train for this) can actually describe everything so fast and vividly like a quick glance around can do.

    And Kindred with OpenHanded is like using sanctioned wall haxx. If anyone is hooked you basically see everything the killer does on literally half the map. Its so strong that you might be tempted to leave someone hanging :P

    So everyone laughing about these kinda builds should trey them out themselves before scoffing.

  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 2,856

    I've found that i need to use OTR + Sprint Burst to deal with tunnelling. Because Sprint Burst works off the hook.

    I think the problem with the update is that tunnelling is not less effective in most cases.

    In a scenario where a healthy survivor, with no hooks, unhooks a survivor in front of you, it is a better decision to hit the unhooked survivor immediately and chase them. Doing this cancels 3 potential things, the basekit BT, actual BT and Off The Record. So both survivors have two hits, but if you go for the unhooked survivor you will have a survivor with two hooks on them whereas if you go for the unhooker you'll have two survivors with 1 hook on them. The Basekit BT they added, and endurance off the hook, is not enough, all it does is prevent the killer from immediately downing an unhooked survivor, which is a nice addition, but it does not solve tunnelling at all.

    I honestly don't know how it can be solved in a conclusive way but i think 5 second DS should be restored until they do.

  • Oscarnator
    Oscarnator Member Posts: 304

    You’re team will still probably not do gens even if they face camping or will find a way to go down while trying to 1 for 1 and you’re still on hook.

  • Oscarnator
    Oscarnator Member Posts: 304

    Beacuse you don’t need to see lol. “I’m running him on shack”, why do you need to see the chase? You already know they’re at shack so what does wasting a perk slot on information that’s useless. If they leave shack thye’ll tell you where they’re going. There’s no need for seeing anything unless you’re legally blind.

    Only value I see in this build is if you’re going for a flash save but even then you just need good positioning and you either find the angle or don’t. I don’t need to see my teammate looping, I just need to know where they are to know what I should be doing. It feels nice ig but you can run an exuahstion or healing perk which will get way more value.

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    I do not have the perk and I believe I will be buying Jane next for scientific reasons. But yes, if I was taking the game seriously, I would definitely prioritize Off the Record. Really surprised survivors do not run it.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    I will not use any of those, if Killers try hard and tunnel me out of the game to reach higher MMR, so be it.

  • Pucci21
    Pucci21 Member Posts: 30

    If you get tunneled chances are you might get to use ds bc otherwise the killer has wasted a lot of time. But yeah it's a ######### perk now it just adds like 5 seconds of chase so run it with OtR or don't run it at all. I played killer and I experienced how laughable DS on it's own is.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    No thanks, didn't need or use them before and still doing fine without them now.

  • JaviiMii
    JaviiMii Member Posts: 286

    I don't like being forced into a perk corner. I want to run whichever perks I want and not whichever ones I need to balance the game.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,429

    I ran OtR for about 20-30 games before I gave up on it because I wasn't tunnelled once.

  • Huge_Bush
    Huge_Bush Member Posts: 5,424

    No, I'll stick to Self Care, Inner Strength, Boon: Circle of Healing and No Mither.

  • dspaceman20
    dspaceman20 Member Posts: 4,699

    Just the ultimate ultra combo. Make sure you bring a medkit with that build it could help when your injured

    :)

  • lauraa
    lauraa Member Posts: 3,195

    Bt is a boss perk; once Otz makes a video on it everyone will be quick to say "yeah man bt is insane I've been using itthis whole time"

  • CluelessWanderer
    CluelessWanderer Member Posts: 939

    OTR is so overrated. Imo, old DS was a far better anti-tunnel perk. With a 5 second stun, the Killer had to stop and lost visual a lot.

    I tried running OTR when the patch dropped and it was crap. Every high mobility Killer could easily tunnel right through their initial hit. Especially since hit recovery is faster. As well, they usually hit right off the hook anyways where we have the craptacular 5 second endurance, which immediately cancels out OTR endurance. Killers can stack gen regression perks, but survivors can't stack endurance. And then to have it deactivate at end game? Laughable. Sure, let's bring a perk that we can't use during crunch time when it would really make a difference.

    New DS is useless. 3 seconds is like lightly slapping the Killer in the face, you can barely get any distance. I don't play much since the patch because Solo Q is misery now and the Devs have no desire to change it, but if I feel like punishing myself for 30 mins and try, I run Empathy, BT (to give a teammate a shot at endgame), a healing perk and Overcome.

  • fulltonon
    fulltonon Member Posts: 5,762

    Maybe replace bond or openhanded to prove thyself, I noticed finishing each gen with two person is usually much more efficient than splitting up and being pressured.

  • Lecruidant
    Lecruidant Member Posts: 162

    Dont' worry. Everyone will start using it to counteract the tunneling and then BHVR will say it's too overused and nerf it into the ground while not actually addressing the issue at hand.

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,475

    Make sure you never actually boon a totem or you may be at risk of helping your team.