Fog Whisperers can DC without Penalty!

That's true. I don't know how to feel about it.

So what fog whispers have d/c'd on steam and didn't get a penalty?

It's one thing to say they can and another if they are actually doing so.

I'd be very surprised if this is fact. I hope Tru3 is wrong. I can't believe BHVR would have one rule that applies to everyone but the people they decide it doesn't apply to. The current hacker pandemic is not just affecting streamers with a Fog Whisperer badge. I watch hexy get targetted night after night, and Lilith and CMWinter and SpooknJukes..... Would be crazy for otz and friends to be able to disconnect and not face a penalty, but force others with viewerships in the 1000's (eg. hexy) to have to wait it out when they get taken hostage, or face a penalty.

I think it should be the same for everyone, especially since hackers can target those who aren't fog whisperers.

At a minimum, we should get a set number of DCs per day that are allowed without penalty. Like 2 or something? There are legit reasons for it, not to mention internet outages.

I have no idea if it’s true or not but the system can definitely recognize if someone’s account is a Fog Whisperer or not.

Why should they literally always treat all players equally? If a specific easily identifiable group of players is being heavily targeted by hackers and needs to temporarily have their disconnect penalties adjusted or turned off then why should they be handled exactly the same as other players who don’t have that problem? On top of which fog whisperers have specific duties for Behaviour and if the dc penalties are interfering with those then it becomes a work issue for the company.

So yeah, not all players need to be treated exactly the same because they’re not actually the same.

if this is true thats pathetic, treating fog whisperers with respect so they can get content doesn’t help with the cheater problem and everyone else is being shafted

The cheaters have no control over who they were matched with, so the idea that they are 'targeting' anyone is ludicrous. Sure, they might be playing at the same time and HOPE to get into a streamer/whiisperer's match, but that is just random chance and MMR in the end.

It's not as if ONLY whisperers are getting cheaters, everyone has them now and then. Some people never even notice them. Subtle cheating makes it even harder to figure out. It's only when it is blatant that it is definite, and even I have seen blatant cheaters on many occasions. Not lately though, thankfully.

Is it true that Fog Whispers get no DC penalty? I am pretty sure I have seen Otz have to wait one out after a crash, and I would think he would be the most obvious steamer to get a pass on them since he is the FW with the largest following.

SpookNJukes had a video the other day where he was on Pc and was met with a hacker, he went afk, booted up his PS5 and the first match he gets into was another match with a hacker doing the same thing as the first.

First hacker starts at 3:40

It's a toggleable whitelist the devs have I believe

I think they disabled DC penalties for tru3 at one point as well because cheaters kept giving him 72 hour ones. At the very least devs can manually remove someone's DC penalty so this whitelist thing shouldn't really come as a surprise

Although, once again it goes to show BHVR doing the most bandaid possible fix to a problem

"Cheaters targetting content creators and streamers of our game? Let's just let the ones we care the most about DC". While I don't think it's their intention to leave non FW content creators to eat dirt, it doesn't seem like much else will happen for a while since anti-cheating measures are usually pushed with regular updates which takes time

Yeah I remember cheaters kept doing it so the devs kept disabling it for everyone until they fixed whatever exploit they were using

Pretty funny ngl.

Oh, there is a Fog Whisperer version of the game! LOL

Is anybody really surprised only BHVR's best little shills are given the privilege of not having their experience completely ruined by a rampant hacker problem that they're basically doing nothing about

I don't really see an issue with this if it's true, they tend to be the people most targeted by hackers so this seems reasonable. Although preferably BHVR just gets their ######### together on the security front and gets a better anticheat system.

I'd say in the past week or 2 probably about 5% of my games have a hacker, many of which held the game hostage. 1 Was subtle hacking (had endurance every time i hit them even though they had no perks and no items that gave endurance and wasn't off of hook or anything.) And another where they just finished all the gens and immediately escaped in 5 seconds. It's happening to regular people too.

The problem is that they target you. For example, let's say i don't play by the survivor rulebook one game and they get mad. Now they can target me by joining my lobby over and over again and having a different name.

This was my thought. The knee-jerk reaction is to get mad, but really, this is just acknowledging (as much as they ever will) that there's a cheater problem and they can't stop people from targeting big name players en masse.

You're SoL if you're a major content creator but not a Fog Whisperer, though. Although, on the other hand, the vetting is important so that they wouldn't hand out the privilege to somebody who would abuse it - giving streamers (or god forbid, everybody) the ability to DC carte blanche would be a horrible idea.

Killer cheaters tend to be less hostage-holdy and more murder you all immediately, but I've still seen clips of ones like Trappers whose traps take 10 minutes to struggle out of or Pigs who spawn you in with a trap and the search is at self-care+sloppy+coulro+pentimento speed.