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If we change this about Spirit, can we finaly leave her alone?
I see that many people still dislike Spirit and even some Spirit players also don't like some tools Spirit can bring to turn the match into unfair direction. I think with these following changes we can finaly leave Spirit alone with both sides more happy than before.
This is the main source of why Spirit is still hated and for a good reason. This add-on is stupid IMO. This add-on should just be totaly reworked and I have a idea for it:
- Now it will allow you to see pools of blood.
That's it. Remember that old Ultra Rare add-on that was nice to have but (at least IMO) wasn't broken? At least not as this Blossom. When that old add-on was removed, I remember there were people who was sad that this type of add-on has to go. I think it would be nice to have it again, since Spirit is overall weaker then when this add-on existed.
I would like to keep the power fantasy and "It's Ultra Rare so it should be good" theme so I would just keep everything the same, but I would reduce the bonus movement speed by at least -10% (so instead of total bonus being +40% as it is now, it would be 30%), or maybe even -15% but you still don't see Survivor marks.
That's it. I think Spirit would be 100% fine and fair with these two add-on changes. Enough counterplay for Survivors while not being weak Killer and still one of the strongest in the game with good add-ons (but not OP).
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I'm very on the fence about seeing pools of blood. On the one hand, when you're injured it means you have basically no counterplay except running like the wind without specific perks. On the other hand, it allows any hard of hearing person to actually play her.
What I will admit though, is it's a damn step up from DCB.
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put more time into nerfing nurse
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Get rid of those 2 add ons and she’s fine. Still not really fun but not OP either
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Changes i want for Spirit:
- Rework DCB and MDR
- Rework her useless add-ons.
- Bring back Father's Glasses
- Buff her base-kit a bit. Recovery should be faster. 10 seconds maybe?
- Add her Hooked on You skin to DbD store.
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No, people will still complain about any killer that is stronger than Piggy.
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I'm not 100% sure she should ever see pools of blood, but I would definitely take it over the current situation.
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I would honestly not buff her base kit at all. It's pretty good allready.
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There are some basekit changes and add on changes including these that I want to see. Sadly I don’t see the devs revisiting Spirit any time soon and if they do, I don’t think they will even know what to do with her. The Father’s Glasses removal made no sense and keeping MDR the way it was also made no sense.
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I don't like use add-ons on killers. I think all killers should have strong base-kits. Add-ons should make them a bit stronger, that's all.
Nemesis and Artist are good examples. They both have strong base-kit but their add-ons are kinda meh.
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I’d be fine with father’s glasses coming back. DCB is basically just a better version without counterplay so that would be a good change.
MDR needs to either have it’s speed reduced or have a bigger penalty
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This add on is important for accessibility, so our hard of hearing friends shouldn't be allowed to have a chance to play Spirit?
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That's the thing, I absolutely hate the addon for the lack of counterplay but it's also a "necessary evil" I guess (I can't think of a better term for it right now) to make her anything close to accessible.
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If anything her base kit needs a nerf more than a buff. She's 4th best killer for a reason.
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No, no nerfs. She was allready nerfed so many times and now she is a in a good spot. If you want to nerf someone, go nerf Nurse please. Thanks.
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Alright what nerf would you give her?
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DCB is an outdated horse to beat, it offers no value now that IW is irrelevant.
It's just an accessibility addon forthe hearing impaired now.
I'm fine with Cherry Blossom going away as its job is done now, but I'd liketo see Fathers Glasses come back.
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There's nothing wrong with MDR. It's an ultra rare addon and must be her strongest addon.
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An extra 40% movement speed in phase absolutely shouldn’t be a thing without a reasonable downside. And no, scratch mark removal isn’t enough.
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I think we just killswitch her along with the Nurse,all will be well.
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There’s literally nothing wrong with spirit. She just need any nerfs, if anything her basekit needs a small buff (I’d say shorter recovery time for power).
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So we killswitch killers because you’re not good against them? Yeah good idea.
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I feel her power recovery shouldn’t be buffed but it should be reworked a bit. I’m not too much of a fan of how it works right now.
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The 40% extra movement speed is a double-edged sword. It's much more harder to track survivors with that speed. One mininal mistake and the survivor will be far away from the Spirit, reaching a safer place. And it's pain to control Spirit with that speed on indoor maps aswell.
MDR is only an issue when paired with DCB.
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Spirit is trash already, nobody is playing her except cheating bots.
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I dont know where you got that,they're just not fun to go against and Nurse is just purely problematic
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But you can get used to it. It’s overtuned when you do though.
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Again for the 67202669817th time, fun is subjective. Quit thinking that your fun is the only thing that matters.
You think every killer is trash except Nurse with her absolute best add ons lol.
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But that's the purpose of rarer addons. They are meant to be overtuned.
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Spirit used to be my main loved playing as her and against mostly due to Ganns hype they always pushed good builds and strategies for her as well as Haunter. You ideas sound good in theory but theyd need to be tested and all addons need to be properly tested with every combo imaginable. I do hope they know they may have overly nerfed her
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Nah I am playing Blight these days. He is very fun.
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Not really. They’re supposed to more so change the way the killer plays, not excessively boost their power level so much.
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The problem is the scratch mark downside is only there once you're actually phasing
You still see scratchmarks from before you started phasing, which makes the downside barely noticeable during chase
If they really want to keep MDR, make it remove scratch marks the second you start holding m2, like how Legion's Frenzy works
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That would be ok.
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They are meant to boost the killer powers, but excessively it's up to interpretation.
Huntress has the instadown, for example
Deathslinger the exposed status, Blight too.
Personally, better addons than MDR.
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Will you stop play DbD if they rework/nerf Nurse? Because looks like you are enjoying with only her.
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As I said, I am learning Blight right now. I don't think survivors are done with the Nurse nerfs, and he is way easier to play.
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She is very good in theory but she is frustrating to play on some maps because if you only play her with yellow and brown add ons (like me) you basically have no map pressure (or no chase power, if you use your phase to travel all the time). Eyrie of crows, garden of joy and mothers dwelling are very annoying to play if your phases and chases are not perfect every time.
She also suffers from the OTR meta. Tunneling was one of her main strategies due to being better against injured survivors. So when people say she's better now because no one plays IW anymore, i think that's not true. You basically have to keep multiple people injured.
The new DH is also strong against her (if you're used to hit right out of her phase which a lot of Spirits do). You have to wait and bait which you can't afford every time when they're near a window or pallet already.
I personally wished she would be 115% movement speed. I mean, Blight is 115... I would be fine with her best add ons getting nerfed or even add that dust FX they wanted to add at first, but making her 115% would make her less frustrating to play sometimes.
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Foot Fetish base kit is a sizable buff idk how i feel about it
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No because neither of those changes remedy her being a terrible idea for a killer.
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Survivors will start talk about Blight too, you know that right? This will never stop. Nurse probably will be nerfed or reworked. And the next target will be Blight.
But she also loses her strongest combo, it is fair trade for me.
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Elaborate pls
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Honestly bloodrust 10 design itself is meh, it'll be literally no counterplay or literally pure RNG.
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I would want to see scratch mark with mother ring if the speed is nerfed. I would also like spirit to be buffed 115%.
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Now that IW has been nerfed, I'd be fine with her killer instinct add-ons going bye-bye, but BHVR still needs to turn down chase music or make it fade out faster since chase music still drowns out in game sounds for her.
As for Mother-Daughter Ring. I'm going to look at this from 2 perspectives.
As a survivor: I feel like the add on is fine because it reduces reaction time in chase and without that speed, it's way too easy to outplay her.
As Spirit: This add on gives her the best map mobility possible because map sizes (which are still huge problems) and survivors becoming more efficient on gens is a recipe for her to get destroyed.
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Blight is way more popular because way easier to play and fun for casuals. Most of the killers don’t care about a Nurse nerf because they don’t know how to play Nurse themselves…they cannot care less. In theory she will still be stronger than him, so I don’t think he will get nerfed.
This Nurse nerf will destroy her, except comp Nurses nobody will bother playing her when you can play Blight with Lethal / BBQ / Enduring / Spirit Fury and win 90% of your games with no addons, no regression and without sweating. Because when I eat most of the pallets, I don’t have to think too much like I do with my Nurse.
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No, I know you've already heard multiple times why people dislike playing against Spirit.
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The only thing Spirit needs is her Hooked on You outfit, she's fine otherwise. You can hate her powerful add ons all you want but at the end of the day it's just something that you find annoying, not something that is to strong, also at the end of the day they are meant to be her strongest add ons, not every add on needs to be a 3% change or some meme trash debuff that has no effect on gameplay.
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Probably because people were super disappointed when they realized the nerf didn’t make her completely useless.
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She should be able to start phasing even if her power bar isn't fully charged. That'd be a base kit buff. If we're not gonna go this way, I'd decrease her recharge time by ~2 seconds, so it'd take ~13 seconds instead of the current ~15 seconds.
Dried Cherry Blossom should be simply changed into its previous state, so it'd share the same effects as Juniper Bonsai, but with more impactful numbers - So, to reduce the passive phasing cooldown by ~2 - 3 seconds, and increase the passive phasing duration by ~75% - 100%.
As for Mother-Daugher Ring, how about making it so it trumps all other add-ons? Meaning, you couldn't combine Mother-Daughter Ring with anything else.
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No
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