The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
http://dbd.game/killswitch
soooo when its the next Q&A? you guys need to answer about nurse
The last Q&A was six months and in the last three months a big antinurse movement appeared in the community and everybody agrees that she needs to be nerfed (the nerf to the range addons are not enough) or reworked (except for the 5 or 6 guys that are in a personal crusade to defend nurse in every thread).
We need a Q&A to know your position about this killer.
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Abnout nurse, abut a lot of things, especially about solo survivor improvements, crossprogression.
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Sounds great, nerf Nurse and then nerf SWF or let us know who's in a SWF so we can dodge/adjust accordingly
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SWF and nurse nerfed? that sounds like heaven on earth
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I've grown to dislike Q&A's.
We get about one real answer per stream and the rest are some variation on "maybe, not right now, in the future" ect ect.
I'd honestly just rather not have them at that point.
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They are never going to nerf SWFs. While SWFs have some huge advantages the devs aren't going to nerf survivors for playing with there friends. The best we can hope for is the devs to bring solo as close to swf as possible and adjust killer to that.
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They're not gonna delete nurse. I bet they won't even rework her. They'll probably just make her attacks special attacks and call it a day 🤣
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soon or later they will have to listen to the majority
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Yeah, the main advantage SWF have is comms, which is something BHVR can't control anyway.
Buffing solo is the next logical step for them to take.
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Why would they nerf Nurse? She’s balanced. Mob opinion isn’t relevant to balance.
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I think they confirmed that they think she is in fine position multiple times.
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Exactly having comms is like having 3-4 perks that don't need to be equipped.
I think the biggest problem there having is trying to figure out how to buff solo without buffing swf.
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A ping wheel on a short cooldown (1-3s or so) to prevent spam. The pings only allow preset messages so people can’t say dumb nonsense. Eg, "being camped", "do this gen", etc.
Could improve it even further by adding some automation. Eg, if a chase starts, it automatically pings "in a chase" or something so you don’t have to manually do it.
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Well if you play a God nurse just take the L and move on. That's what us killer mains are told about 3 and 4 stack SWF. ThEyRe ExTrEmElY RaRe
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Don't forget all the real questions get down voted while stupid questions like Hen Speed gets upvoted....or 50,000 of the same Question is upvoted multiple times
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My guess is that they don't balance this game around the top MMRs, and - looking at gross kill rates - Nurse is the worst killer in the game.
Not that they should be balancing around lower MMRs (cough Wraith, Cenobite) but if they are going to nerf killers because they are overperforming at lower MMRs, why not buff killers that are underperforming at lower MMRs?
That seems fair, doesn't it?
It's a cute idea, but I'm not sure how much it would do.
The issue in solo isn't communication, it's cooperation and coordination. And you aren't going to force that Meg hiding in the bushes to do gens no matter how much you ping her.
Gen speeds was absolutely a 'real' question.
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SWF doesn’t imply coordination or cooperation well either. If they’re not good individually, voice isn’t going to help them much.
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Here's the thing is really comes down to skill level when people complain about nurse at this point. I have about a 50-60% escape rate against a nurse, it all depends on the Nurse's skill level.
I have seen players not even try any of the kown counters to her, but instead just use the same ole strats that are used against all the other Killers. If these players are the "majority" that want her nerfed and reworked then BHVR SHOULDN'T listen because those players refuse to adapt and learn how to counter her but instead want to be forum warriors for change.
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It doesn't imply, but it does suggest. Because you can select people for your SWF, and easily remove them forever after if they don't perform. It's why 'be good' is the condition of so many PUG SWFs I see going these days.
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"A BHVR employee is a person who can speak for hours on end and say absolutely nothing."
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jesus christ again with that stats, the last kill rates stats were in jan since then nurse was buffed, her bugs were fixed, perks like ds dead hard circle of healing were nerfed, gen speed was increased, attack cooldown was decresead and the most important factor for some reason a ######### ton of people started playing with her a few months ago
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In one of my teams, survivors weren't very good individually but just getting information about the killer position and telling whose turn it is to go get downed while others did gens was a huge advantage. To get a 3 or 4 escapes.
As you say they weren't always listening though, trying to do a save that wasn't smart giving another kill to the killer.
In another team though, I was the least skilled survivor (still around 1.5k hours at the time) and we weren't on comms. We had more escapes because everyone kind of knew what the others were doing just by experience.
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Nurse's base-kit is fine, git gud
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Im amazing at how many people can complain about nurse and not get tired of hearing their own voice. There's no way you're all facing god nurses so clearly you're the ones doing something wrong in that situation, but nope "can't be a me problem because I'm play perfect survivor all the time no exceptions!"
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i'm not everybody (and probably i'm not the only one), don't claim things that aren't the truth. As for me as long map rng is so ######### up, offerings for the maps still exist and SWF won't be relegated in only custom matches, the nurse can stay.
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Why not learn how to evade her instead of asking for her to be nerfed, out of the 28 killers how many of them can be used in high mmr or even middle, If you want to stop vs nurse every match then ask for the other killers to be buffed to bring them more in line with the top tier killers then people might have a reason to play other killers then 2 or 3.
Why should everything be nerfed and not buffed like nemesis his first tentacle should injure plus give the survivors virus where now you need to hit them 3 times unless you m1 people, I would rather solo q get some buffs be it something next to name so people know what the other survivors are doing and buff weaker killers then going around nerfing everything.
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Yeah, I think they are don’t with Q&As,
first they ‚cherry picked‘ questions they were able to answer and got criticized for that heavily. Then they decided to just answer the questions getting upvoted most by the community and got criticized heavily for not giving solid answers to questions that everyone should have known couldn’t be answered by them.
i don’t blame them for this, even though it was a nice idea to communicate directly with the community it wasn’t the right format.
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Even more amazing is how nurse mains don't realize that after you reach a very achievable amount of practice with nurse you are boosted by her mechanics and able to compete with players better than you.
This isn't an only god-nurse problem. It is a balance problem in which Nurses are boosted by OP mechanics, thinking they are as good as players they may not actually be better than.
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This.
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okay so once you get good with nurse you're good with nurse?
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Don't forget the famous "soonTM"
What i absolutely despised was the fact that they only took questions with the most upvotes, so we had many questions that were already answered many times before or even questions that just didn't make sense.
Don't get me wrong i don't mind if they take questions with the most upvotes, but at least also select questions that do make sense and questions that you can answer.
That whole soonTM had put me off, so the anniversary stream a barely watch because of this.
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I agree with this. It's always "TBA" or "in the fuutre"
Granted, the only thing I like about them is that htey tell us that they are working on it, we just need to be patience.
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Very unrelated to what I said, but okay.
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Hey don't forget we thr players got to upvoted or down vote the questions we wanted asked. The questions that people wanted to ask that made sense and could answer a few thing got down voted while the ones like you said got up voted constantly multiple times along with down right stupid ones like Hen Speed.....
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DBD's community is always doing a "anti-something movement". A few months ago it was Spirit, then Blight, now Nurse. They don't really need to hear those things.
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???????
Nurse has been consistently criticized for how OP she is for years and years. This is not a new thing.
And Spirit hasn't seen any real complaints for a long time now.
Anything that defends nurse gets upvotes when the nurse mains gather in a post for too long, whether it is true or not.
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most killers can be used in mid and high mmr, if you only can win with an op killer that is your problem, i keep track of my last 100 games and i won 80 and lose 6 and not one time i played nurse.
fun fact i was a nemesis main and i played 41 games with him, i won 32 and lose 2
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6 years of she being balanced? dude you are in your own world since she was released she was S tier (you know that tier goes for overpowered right?) just look for any tier list of any youtuber
this three tier lists have al least 3 years i am sure i could find even older tier list but the point is clear every other S tier killer was nerfed Billy was nerfed, freddy was nerfed and spirit was nerfed.
In the other hand we have nurse that is almost the same killer as when it was released.
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yes because when something is op people want to see it balanced it is not something that only happens to killers, i remember when i was asking that instaheals and keys should be nerfed survivor also attack me calling me baby killer for that just like nurse mains are calling me baby surv.
"dont like nurse? just learn to break LOS" is the new "dont like ds? just use enduring"
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So, in other words, you have no stats to defend nerfing Nurse?
Play Nurse and then you'll learn how her power works and how to counterplay it. The blink speed increase from her range add-ons was harsh but BHVR is already removing those; Nurse is fine.
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Nerf to nurse is not needed; if she get nerfed, she should have normal movement speed to compensate a higher cooldown to her power.
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A killer with no mechanical counterplay is not balanced.
Her counterplay is literally "I hope the player is bad at blinking".
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Mindgaming is skill-based counterplay. The person that is better at reading, baiting, and out-predicting the other will succeed in each trade (an attempt to land or evade a hit). And so both players will constantly need to adapt and adjust to how the other plays. Mindgaming is reliant on both sides. It is not just whether or not the killer is bad. It is also whether or not the survivor is better.
If what you said was actually correct, very good Nurses would never ever lose ever. Except that is objectively and completely laughably incorrect. Even some of the best Nurses in the world will have games where 3-4 survivors escape versus them. Why? Because they went against some of the best survivors in the world, who are equal to them in skill.
When the skill matchup is even, so is the match (outside of extenuating factors such as unbalanced maps, people not trying, meme builds, etc). It is not Nurse’s fault the game cannot give even skill matchups consistently to higher-skill players.
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We've been wanting this for how long? Yet they keep giving us something else, usually a patch that nobody wants or it's something that hurts more than it helps. Don't forget the new game breaking bugs everytime they try and change something
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Don't bother, to most of the community, anything thats not a 100% infallible low-skill requirement action isn't actually counterplay. I don't even think most of them understand the concept of a read (I don't mean this as an insult, btw.) They see stuff like freddy's alarm clocks and think every killer should have some way to absolutely nullify their power for free like that. As a bonus, most dont even bother to use the tools given.
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i know the counterplay to nurse, hope that she fails their blink or mindgame her none of that things works againsts the 4k hours that i have to face constantly
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Shh, if they give up instantly every time they get to be right because she wins every time.
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Although I doubt it, I hope blight is adressed as well, he might not be as commonly used as her, but he's just as strong as the nurse imo
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I love how you tell you know how to counter-play her, only to explain you actually don't right after.
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Funny that all the Nurses are telling on themselves by talking about counterplay here.
There are so many situations where you are getting hit by the nurse no matter what.
No wonder they think she is balanced if they haven't learned how to zone or blink correctly with her. They are why her kill rate is the lowest.
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