My Nurse Nerf
Here I want to suggest my changes on The Nurse. I think there's nothing more to say.
Nurse's Basekit changes:
- Increased the Movement speed of The Nurse to 4.2 m/s.
- The Nurse's Blink Attacks are considered as Special Attacks.
- Base Fatigue duration is increased to 3 seconds.
- Chain-Blink Increases Fatigue penalty +0.5 seconds each
1 Blink: 3 seconds
2 Blinks: 3.5 seconds
3 Blinks: 4 seconds
- Blink Recharge starts after the Fatigue has ended.
- Recharge time is increased to 4 seconds per Charge.
Nurse's Add-On Changes:
1. Dark Cincture: A black rope used as a belt in times of mourning. Taken from Father Campbell's body.
- Decreases the duration of the Blink by +10 %.
2. Fragile Wheeze: The whistling and rattling breath stolen from Father Campbell. Silently curves and bends at The Nurse's touch.
- Reduces the Power Token Recharge time by -0.5 seconds.
3. Catatonic Boy's Treasure: A pine-cone which unexpectedly calmed a patient's repetitive movement. Taken from the "Catatonic Boy's" body.
- Reduces the additional Fatigue duration from Chain Blinks by -0.5 seconds.
4. Ataxic Respiration: The irregular and deteriorating breath collected from the "Catatonic Boy". Normally stable and calm, becomes incredibly agitated at The Nurse's touch.
- Reduces Fatigue duration from Blinks by -0.5 seconds.
5. Kavanagh's Last Breath: A powerful last breath snatched from Crotus Prenn Asylum Orderly Harvey Kavanagh, the "Fat Orderly". In the hands of The Nurse, it wobbles with intensity.
- Increases the Lunge range of Blink Attacks by +50 %.
- Increases the additional Fatigue duration from Blink Attacks by +0.5 seconds.
6. Torn Bookmark: A white and pristine piece of ribbon once attached to a sacred book. Serves as the symbol of a dispute.
- Adds available Power Tokens by +1 Token
- The Nurse is unable to Blink to a Target location she does not have direct line-of-sight to.
7. Matchbox: A matchbox containing an odd collection of mismatched buttons. Serves as a reminder of a horrible place.
- Reduces available Power Tokens by -1 Token.
- Increases the Movement Speed to 4.4 m/s
- Removes the requirement of Recharging.
That's everything what would I said how to change Nurse. If you want to share your opinion on how am I terrible human being and why I shouldn't exist, type it in the comments.
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lmfao these are absolutely insanely huge nerfs to an already balanced killer (outside of range/torn bookmark)
her basekit is completely balanced
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Ok let's start. Look at twins, twins are still one of the strongest killers in the game, yah they are not nurse/blight level but still strong even after the nurf, but why no one plays them? Terrible stun time. It's super unfun going thru a 5 seconds stun everytime u hit someone. What u are making is that, nurse would need to go thru a 4 seconds stun + 4 seconds moving at 3.8 speed after being able to play again, and o gosh good helps u if u miss a blink. + The nurse recovery time is already 4 seconds per token. Now let's talk about addon changes in general ok changes, but I can predict nurses running fatigue add-ons all the time just so the game is not super boring, then kavanagh is stupid, having a 50% farther lunge would be gaming breaking, it would allow nurse to make big mistakes and not being punished. In general I don't think that this would be a good rework, then again this is only my opinion.
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2 -> 2.5 -> 3 second fatigue
3 second recharge each blink (also recharges in fatigue)
Recharge addons decreasing recharge time from 3 to 0,99 seconds
Can Instadown with Blink Attacks
"Nurse's Basekit is completely balanced"
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Correct. Feel free to show actual statistically significant proof she overperforms if you think otherwise.
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Nope twins are not even close to being one of the most strong killers in the game. And her swing addon also can be nerfed a little so it s more balanced.
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Why cant you nurse crusaders just spell out "nerf" instead of wrongly calling it a "rework"? Just be honest, its refreshing.
Billy "rework", anyone?
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Wow another sweaty nurse defender. Dude she need nerf she was top of s tier before her bug fixes + before 6.1 update that nerf survs and buffed killers (shorter sprint after hit + shorter wepon cleaning animation) her recharge addons also turn her back to old nurse with always had blinks. With was remoced for a reson. + no one cares about your cringe crying about not nerfing nurse. They are on same lvl as of dead hard defenders where they cried that dead hard don't need nerf. They said: i always dead in the wall so this perk sucks or other crap like that where good players totaly abused it. Here is same thing with nurse where bad players like you say she is not broken because you suck at her. We don t consider coments from potatoes. The truth is that half good and really good players at her can easly 4k every game with her + geting good at here tooks around 50 games if you are not total bot in video games. I personaly main blight (with also need small nerf to base hit + nerf to his 2 most broken addons in game) + billy and i can say that this killers are hard to get good and then master where with nurse after 46 games i mastered musle memory of blinks and all i have left is to msster here (learn other usefull tricks) but at this moment i can win omkst evry game with no addons and no slow down perks, also i don t use starstruck. He for sure need nerf to here power so it counts as m2 attack so perks like starstruck get get buffed to be better on toher killers, she should also like spirit don t see auras inside her blink ( i m talking about trleportation with also is short , takes around 1 - 4 second on looong blinks) this would allow aura reafing perks to get buffed too. Now after 6.1.0 her power got indirect buff which made her even stronger, with increase need of nerf. I would ssy taking away 1-1.5 m of here blink range + extra 0.5-0.75ks recharge of blinks would balanced out all this changes. Also her third blink iri addons should be rework back as viper said with that small buff to blink recharge. I also would delete best range addon and recharge addons. After all of this she would stay on top of s rank but the gap betwen here and blight would be mouch smaller. Also about blight nerf. Huhe tech shouldn t be removed but compaun 33 and ring should be totaly changed and his basick power should recharge around 0.2s longer for token ( maybe shorter/longer) + there should be penalty for mising rush because now even when i miss hit i allways get hit or palet down any way because surv have no time to make any distance. I would also buff weaker killer amd nerf perks like deadlock/ circle of healing/ prove they self, with buffs to weaker perks like self care, metal of man, buckle up, tanata itd. And yes i know mom and tanata was rework recently but this reworks were just phatetick. Tanata is nowbonly usefull and strong on legion plague and usles on others and metal of man is even more waste of time than before. Just stop defending broken ######### i was allready anoyed on dead hard defenders and now i have to face same salt with nurse.
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I typed "rework" instead of "nerf" just to make more people interested to see what I suggested
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I can see that having Blink attacks count as special attacks
but with the way the game is changing special attacks will activate perks as well
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But you won t have instant downs on allready strong anty loop powers. Imagine that nemesis tentacle can instant down with starstruck.
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and because of that, i opened the thread expecting a fair assessment of her strengths and weaknesses and a nuanced conclusion. i ended up saying "oh this is literally just all nerfs to make her more boring to play" and skimmed your post. it didn't make me more interested, it just made me annoyed.
anyway, once they fix the bug with the range addons she'll be healthier. in terms of a nerf after they fix the range addon i would make it so she has 1 blink basekit, moves at 4.2m/s while she has no blink charges, no longer recharges while fatigued, and one of her brown addons becomes "gain an additional blink charge" just to stop her stacking two OP addons with two blink charges. she doesn't need more done to her than that. your nerfs don't take the gameplay pov into account which is why you decided that what she needs is being stunned more. the ability to ignore pallets doesn't mean much when your movespeed enables the survivors to also ignore pallets.
however, your addon suggestion that makes it so she can only blink with a line of sight is very very good. i would make it so that she gets all her charges back at once, and her range is reduced. i think that would be an extremely fun and funny playstyle option for her that the survivors would also enjoy playing against. perhaps outside of chase she could have her movespeed boosted to 4.4m/s so she can still patrol gens while using it.
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S-tier =/= busted.
Shorter sprint after hit is basically irrelevant. That only helps killers who can continue to walk behind the survivor at a quick pace after their attack cooldown. Nurse fatigues, meaning a survivor gains larger distance, and then she has to recharge and charge to pursue again. She moves in bursts, not continuous movement. The shorter sprint distance loss is completely negligible because it doesn't suddenly differentiate whether or not you can exit her range.
Weapon cooldown is irrelevant because she fatigues after blinking, and that overrides weapon cooldown, and lasts much longer.
The recharge add-ons don't turn her back to old Nurse. Old Nurse regained both blinks instantly on fatigue end. Double recharge still makes it take 4s which happens concurrently with fatigue, which is 2s base + (0.5s per chain blink) + (1s if she swung at all regardless of hit or miss).
Ah there's the ad hominem. Dead Hard is not comparable. It was completely uncounterable for most killers when used for distance to a pallet. Every single thing Nurse does can be mindgamed.
Good players will win almost every pub lobby game because average players are not good. This is why you see good players win basically every game regardless of survivor or killer or build.
Blight has a perfectly balanced basekit.
Every Exposed perk has counterplay built in, as does Nurse herself. Exposed perks on Nurse are completely fine. Same with auras.
How did she get an indirect buff in 6.1.0? I'd love to hear you somehow explain that.
Nurse's basekit is perfectly balanced, as are recharge add-ons.
If she is so clearly overpowered, it should be very easy to find lots of statistically significant proof that she is overpowered. Go on, I'll wait. If you don't have proof, your claims are worthless.
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I didn't thought that quoting "rework" would still made think about whole power changed.
I agree that after range addon fix she would be healthier, but there would be some remaining issues. I don't know about matchbox being Basekit and making an addon that just adds the second blink, it's just like you must bring it to be able to correct your mistakes. I maybe went too harsh on the fatigue, 4 seconds from 1 blink and yeah I think that increasing her speed to 4.2 m/s would be good QOL for it.
The Torn Bookmark change was the old version of it before 5.5.0 version. I don't think that making the addon similiar to Alchemist Ring with reduced range will be a good idea, It'd be exactly same situation as with AR Blight, so I would stay away from that idea.
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Changed the title of the thread, so the people wouldn't be mistaken between nerf and rework.
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Well.. thats one way to make Nurse from a fun killer to play into an absolutely unfun mess to play as. and I played console nurse before the sensitivity and fps improvements lol..
instead of making the killer so ungodly unfun to play as can you guys just get rid of the special attacks and call it a day, because the addons are awful and the fatigue sounds even worse. I would be surprised if even superalf would continue playing nurse if these changes went through.
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These are absolutely ridiculous insane nerfs LMAO.
You are literally asking for a 5.5s fatigue (4.5 into swing for +1) into 8s charge for a 13.5s downtime LMFAO.
M1 isn't even an issue.
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Omg dude.1 i m not saying S tier= busted. Perks like adrenaline are in s tier but they are strong not broken while nurse is broken. Nurse mains says she need nerf, are ypu really that blind to not see that she is not balanced at all? 2 shorter sprint after hit is making a difrence because before she would me to far away to get hit after 2 blinks with range and now she can hit. 3 that short cooldown makr omost 0 difrence as blight you need to wait morr time to get yout powe back if you hit surv with 2 tokens while he is less strong. 4 dead hard was broken in same way nurse is it was only perk that countered her power but stil didn t work against 2 range addons and no she can t be allways mindgamed lmao. 5 ok thats prove even more that you don t have any idea what you are talking about. You saying that most chase power in game is ok to count as m1 attack ok then lets make blight rush also and m1 attack and all other m2 attacks. 7 less distance = less blinks to get on top of survivors.8 no it s not how an s tier power that was pointed by many player like otz before 6.1.0 for have omost non counter play after killer buffs is balanced..... and here we go again (stats show that she have lowest kill rate in game so she must be not broken) same as ( i allways dead hard in wall so dead hard is ok) nurse have bad stats because noobies that just dowlanded this game pick up her as first killer tobplay because they saw how strong she is in videos. And thers lack of game knowadle make them lose a lot. You can t win a game with out learning baisick things. But ye you will throw unlogick bullshit like dead hard users when some body want to nerf something that allowed you to get easy kills with 0 skill involved. I m 100% people like you will drop of dbd same way as sweat dh users did after 6.1.0 lmao
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These change wouldn't just nerf Nurse, they would put her in the dumpster.
Every time she misses a 2 blink attack on a survivor with this nerf she would suffer 4.5s of fatigue followed by 8 seconds to get both blinks back. In that time the survivor can make over 13 metres distance from the Nurse every time. If she lands the hit the survivor should make 17m distance. These are chase-ending distances. The survivor is going to be a speck in the distance when she comes out of her fatigue and the survivor gets to gain more distance while she waits ages for her blinks to come back since she walks slower than a running survivor.
Making all of her blink attacks special attacks is also awful because she walks slower than a running survivor. Without Matchbox so many perks like Starstruck and Sloppy Butcher become completely useless for her.
I propose much more sensible changes to Nurse:
- Make any attack where she uses 2 or more blinks count as a special attack.
- Make it so if she blinks through a falling pallet she gets intercepted and pallet stunned.
- Make it so that if she gets hit with a pallet during her fatigue the fatigue is interrupted, the rest of her fatigue negated and she gets pallet stunned.
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I don't find her fun to Play as neither playing against, also gonna respect you for playing console nurse.
I maybe went harsh on fatigue, but on addons I don't feel any regrets.
Did you put your first comment on this thread before reading the thing?
Also what M1?
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I reduced the fatigue Time from 4 to 3 seconds, maybe increasing the speed to 4.2 m/s would solve some of the issues and in no world I would make her Blink Attacks count as Basic Attack.
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Thank you, it was a lot of losing once upon a time, but I genuinely enjoy playing Nurse as well as killers like Huntress because they just are the most fun to me personally. I apologize if I was rude, but I just don't think stuns that long is fun nobody enjoys being stunned half the game as Nurses already have to deal with the look-down mechanic being stuck looking down for that long just isn't fun and it would genuinely make it a killer nobody plays.
If you really want to nerf and change a killer don't do it in a way like they did hillbilly, but worse, if you are taking away things that make Nurse fun you need to give something in return making Nurse mains have to spend half the match fatigued is hardly fun and it will make already bad Nurses worse, it just tells me you just don't want people playing Nurse.
If you actually want to make fair changes by nerfing her core power give her actually good addons don't make her ability awful as well as her addons because in the current state Nurse already has mostly terrible addons anyways. If these changes you have made with the addons went through it will get even worse as it is already at the Executioner level of addons worth using, just worthless add-ons in bloodweb all the time.
Like, come up with actually fun addons that change her ability comparable to Myers with how much his add-ons can change his base ability, make it interactive if you hate extra blinks that much to revert it back to its garbage previous pre-buff state just do away with the extra blink since clearly you hate extra blinks and just make it a good ultra rare addon.
Both of them should actually be good, they are useless nobody who plays Nurse uses them they only use 4 addons currently because those are the only 4 that actually do anything useful the rest are basically meme addons or overrated extra blinks that nobody who plays Nurse actually uses and is simply just a boogeyman as it's still not even a good addon even after being buffed.
Like honestly I wouldn't even be mad if the people coming up with the nerfs actually gave something in return instead of just doing the worst possible changes just to make the killer bad solely to make people stop playing that character. It's just insulting as it's just a slap in the face I get people to hate Nurse, but it's insane to me how people think these could even be remotely fun honestly if this was the actual alternative to simply removing Nurse then I would choose to remove Nurse even though people would probably rejoice at that news, because why keep a shell of a killer and the just the hollow self of what made them fun, to begin with.
If people actually went into this with the mentality of "I wonder how to make it less strong, but also still fun" instead of "I hate Nurse and I wish nobody played her." I would genuinely be a lot more open to the changes if they had that energy to go into it with the people who play Nurse and enjoy Nurse in mind instead of the latter.
This is my genuine feedback and I hope you consider or acknowledge it.
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Because her m2 is an issue. Thanks to massive killer buffs and survivor nerfs she's even deadlier than before
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Literally false. Tell me you're a killer main without telling me you're a killer main. Nurse literally breaks the game :/
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Maybe one day someone will actually give proof. Should be easy with how apparently busted she is.
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Check every larger streamer killer list. I am sure you are unable to find one who will not give it into top 3 (she is TOP 1 btw). That's proof #1.
Check this forum and count how many times people suggest that this killer actually needs nerf. That's your proof #2.
Or try to play her somewhat seriously (give her at least 200 hours) and then play ANY other killer and compare which one is stronger. You might get some competition with blight or artist or spirit or someone. But still she will be the strongest. If you invest 2k hours.... There is no killer that can compete to her powers (especially with addons).
saying this as someone who mostly played her with her meme addons (short blinks with short lunge). What other proof do you need?
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Those two are vary different Killers... to say the least
Nurse only has her Blinks... so try another Killer
Imagine that using the Tentacle caused the Nemesis to go into fatigue every time you use it... and you have to press a button to retract the Tentacle after the fatigue
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Nurse can also just M1, she doesn't just have her Blinks :/ There have been many times where a Nurse was able to just walk to a survivor and M1 them, sure it's rarer, but doesn't mean she can't do it. She even has an addon for it!
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- Appeal to authority/Failing to understand streamers’ opinions are not objective proof of stats/Failing to understand #1 =/= OP.
- Appeal to majority/Failing to understand mob opinion does not determine objective reality like performance statistics
- Failing to understand strongest =/= OP/Failing to understand any good player will decimate most matches because most players are average and not as good
Is that really the only things you can come up with? That’s kind of disappointing.
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1, if you appeal to single person/group, you would be right. I am giving appeal to ANY streamer with decent amount of viewers/hours played - be it killer or survivor main or basically anyone who has many many hours in game. This is not a discussion fallacy. Think about it again
2, It's interesting that even new people that don't know how the forum works create same threads over and over again. You can't have mob mentality if you are not (yet) part of the mob.
3, And here you are wrong. If something is consistently best and is "too stale" and "everyone takes it in high MMR", then it is OP - because it's your "only option" (think about old DH). Things that are "too strong" needs nerfs and things that "nobody playes" needs buff (with the exception of weak thing filling some kind of niche - e.g. "training/begginer" killer, meme killer, ....)
If you need an additional proof, then consider this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpbkGmt-C9o and note that this one was before 6.1.0 path (and I hope you can agree that this patch gave HUGE boost to killers)
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Statistically significant proof of her over performing in kill rates in games where players of even skill are matched together, please. If you can’t offer proof, no reason to listen to meaningless conjecture.
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So you want to get something that this game actively tries to deny to you. You want to see 10k games in a single patch (not enough playes) of 1% highest MMR (nobody knows their MMR) aggregated and filtered by killer... Congratulations. You have created such a conditions, that "nobody" but BHVR would be able to provide the proof of nurse being OP even if she lost fatigue, had 20 blinks and current range addon built in. Very well done
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Let's flip this.
How about you provide statistically significant proof of her not overperforming in kill rates. That data provided by BHVR from Dec 16 to Jan 16 is not statistically significant since the Nurse and the game itself have changed by then. (Did that data even count DCs as kills?)
Your statement here is akin to a child sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling "LALALALALALA!! I can't hear you!!"
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But Suzu isnt the one making the claim in this debate, the Burden of Proof falls on the people claiming she's overperforming. He's asking for said proof.
Also: BHVR has multiple times stated that they don't show us the Stats with DC's but only those without.
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The problem is, that no matter what kind of proof you provide - he will just say "that's not good enough". At this point I would not be surprised if he would reject direct statement from BHVR...
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Better than trying to convince people she is overperforming that much by just "trust me pls" if you provide no substantial evidence other than your word don't expect people to believe you. Do I really need to let you know these things because I for one thought it would be obvious.
Don't blame other people blame yourself for not being able to provide anything to convince anyone, I swear like people have sent so many things as "evidence" before and typically its just someone getting a single 4k as Nurse using her strongest addons or a comp Nurse getting a 2k unironically used as evidence.
That's why I hardly believe that she is really as overperforming as much as people say, if people actually backed up their claims with evidence instead of going "oh trust my word" then I wouldn't be as cynical.
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Then read my other comments. I provided convincing "proofs". It's just that they COULD be wrong (same way as you COULD win lottery tomorrow)...
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Anecdotes and arbitrary opinions of random non-BHVR people not based on objective stats is irrelevant.
Also, how is it convincing when you yourself literally admit they could be wrong? The cognitive dissonance is insane. You can’t even convince yourself.
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And Nemesis can M1 as well... so
You brought up two vary different Killers for what reason now....
Nurse only has her Blinks and M1....
Nemesis has his M1, Tentacle and Zombies
Do I need to go into other Killers... Cause I will
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I disagree. @SuzuKR is in every thread making claims that the Nurse's base kit is balanced.
He's made claims. It is right for him to be called out to provide proof. Especially when @Gandor has a provided proof that @SuzuKR swiftly calls "statistically insignificant." Well at least it's something, which is more statistically significant that all the proof he himself has provided.
If BHVR doesn't include DCs in the stats they provide then their data isn't statistically significant either. The Nurse having the lowest kill rate in all the stats they've ever released could be countered by her having the highest DC rate. I think DCs should count as kills for calculating kill rates since survivors are DCing from games they'd usually die in anyway, unless they actually unintentionally DCed.
So they're literally is no real proof.
The only proofs Nurse is overperforming we have are nearly daily threads of "Nerf Nurse," the tier lists that almost unanimously put her at the top, the fact that she is the best of the viable killers in high level competitive play and that she has well above average stats on at least one aggregate site out there. On that site today she has a 62.65% kill rate vs the average of 56.12%, which even with a generous margin of error is clearly overperforming.
The only proofs we have the the Nurse not overperforming are the posts of a small and loud group of Nurse mains that post in every thread and data provided by BHVR from a long time ago before the significant bug removal for Nurse in 5.5.0 and the balance change in 6.1.0 while ignoring DCs.
Defending Nurse right now is like defending the Earth being flat. They even use the same strategy of ignoring any and all evidence.
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You do realize that in rage DC games, it would follow suit that the kill rates are much higher, right? An early 3v1 is completely unwinnable for survivors, regardless of killer, if the killer isn’t completely incompetent.
Majority opinion is irrelevant. The majority consensus used to be the Sun revolved around the Earth.
Being number 1 is irrelevant, there will always be a number 1 and that does not mean it’s overpowered, just that it’s the best.
Ah yes the aggregate site that relies entirely on people who self-report to a site like that. I couldn’t possibly see what kind of sampling bias issues could possibly exist. Makes no sense.
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She's not just number 1, she is definitively number 1 in many people's opinions. Just because it's an opinion doesn't make it false.
You discount the aggregate site like it's just people saying I lost to Nurse but people have to provide screenshots of the tally screen. Yes there is bias and I even acknowledged that in my post I account for by saying "generous margin of error."
You again provide no proof that she isn't overperforming.
You just continue with the "LALALALALALA!! I can't hear you!! Your data is completely irrelevant!!"
I'm done interacting with you. I hope Nurse gets nuked from orbit just to spite you.
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Same way BHVR could be lying about stats and your average killrate could be 3.9k (but seriously?). your experience or things you see are statistically insignificant and stats aggregators could be lying too.
There. I stood down to your level. Now you can't give me any proof because you would need to proof you are telling truth.
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Maybe one day, people will actually understand how burden of proof and evidence of absence works.
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True. So stop stating nurse base kit is OK. I play her. She is not OK. Your statements are wrong and you provide 0 proof. Not even anecdotal one...
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Bhvr today nerfed wesker perk so it s not game braking because on nurse. While on other killers it would be ok or maybe needed even buff. And you say that nurse is fine. Many many perks could get buff if nurse wasn t existing in this game. So yes all blinks must be m2 attack and she should not see auras in blink animation also considering surv nerf her blinks shpuld be 1-2 shorter ( fiest blink) second 1-0.5m and re charge addons should be nerffed changed.
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https://youtu.be/WeHyxFd4jd8 and once again bhvr nerfing interesting perk because of nurse that would make it broken.
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Congratulations on the hypocrisy.
BHVR nerfs one perk that is bad on everyone including Nurse, alluding to Nurse and other killers (given the pluralized description), and suddenly this means Nurse holds back perks.
How terribly inconvenient for you, that BHVR has also buffed 17 perks and released 40 perks that are okay, great, or insane for her. Also BHVR nerfing other perks due to other killers.
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It wasn't bad, it was decent on every killer but broken on Nurse. you had almost wide-map aura reading with BBQ, Lethal Pursuer, Awakened Awareness and insta-downs as Nurse. You could hook and then insta-down another survivor, hook him and before anyone could unhook first hooked person, you was already insta-downing other player knowing where the last one is to. how that is not broken? also only perk that got nerf because of other killer was Stridor on old broken spirit that got nerfed and guess what, she's still an a+ killer if you have braincells and good headphones.
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Remember boil over? Its weird nobody was advocating to blanket nerf survivors instead.
I think the community suffers frome some disability to judge both factions in this game equally.
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These proposed Nurse changes are just terrible.
They seem to be be designed in such a way as to actively discourage people from playing her.
Especially with these ridiculous blink recharge times.
Where is the fun in spending lots of time looking at the floor unable to do anything?
The long fatigue would be a blessing for survivors and i am sure they would use every last millisecond of it to t-bag and do clickies.
These changes would turn the Nurse into yet another bully victim.
But from what i am reading on these forums, thats exactly what most survivor mains want.
Its not just about winning, its the need to humiliate the killer whenever they want to.
The nerf suggestions posted here would make sure of that.
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