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AGAIN FACECAMPING
i know i posted this in the past and i read the pros and cons answers , but 1 year passed and here we are, 34558343 updates later, tons of survivor perks nerfing yettttttttttt we are still facecamped. My most recent game i just got out of , i asked the killed why he camped my hook only and he/she said IT WAS ONLY YOU AND 1 OTHER LEFT, I WON;T WASTE MY TIME CHASING 1 SURVIVOR HE COULD BE ANYWHERE, SO I ALWAYS FACECAMP . well i was pretty discouraged to play as killer before, but i see absolutely no changes in the killer behaviour nor BHVR applying any penalty for this. I currently have 4k hours in game and i am always grinding my way to rank 1 iri, as i am in this moment too. I love the game, but man am i sick of facecampers?! i got it we nerfed DS too and BT and what not, but MAN DO YOU KILLERS REALLY NEED TO HUG OUR HOOK EVERY SINGLE GAME? I honestly feel like playing killer just to prove survivors good fair killers exist and the game is not suppposed to go this way. Go ahead tell me i am wrong, but i am uber bored of finding campers and tunnelers still.
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I honestly don't really care about being tunnelled. If I'm good enough, it means the rest of the team escapes and I got to be in a chase all game.
Face-camping is boring and skilless, so of course people do it. It's the easiest way to win.
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You have this weird idea that camping or tunneling makes someone bad/is unfair. They are literally strategies with risks and rewards this game is balanced around.
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“Just don’t get caught 4head”
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Path of least resistance or something like that
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In b4 somebody comes in with the "Camping takes skill."
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I mean, if it’s only 2 left and the killer got one on hook. Might as well secure the 3k win and if the survivor comes around for the unhook you get the 4k.
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too late, someone just said is a " strategy" lol. Is not like we don't know how to create diversion and unhook and still make the killer lose the kill, is the fact that they don't spend any second in chases or anything, they just hug your hooked body and won't move . And if they do move they make sure to tunnel (which nowadays is risky cause usually we can juke forever). 2022 nearly 2023...perhaps is time facecamping stops and actually engage in the game?
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Wait are you complaining about a killer camping your hook when there are only 2 survivors and you've already effectively lost the game?
I don't camp the hook even in these situations and every time I roll my eyes and go, "Oh god why do I have to be nice and stay in this match another 5 minutes." Just let go of the hook and let your teammate get hatch.
Camping is definitely a problem but this is one time when I'm like, "I agree with you killer player. Let's get outta here. Thanks for all the chases."
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You can't force a camper to play the game fair.
Just like nobody can force someone to stay in the match they don't want to play.
You got to do, what you got to do.
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I don't " complain" for a camp when there's 2 of us left. I explained previously in my quote to NomiNomad..it gets boring man. Boring. i can't have that every single game. like How about a bit of chase? imagine chasing survivors right? my bad.
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so basically every killer should camp because they dont want to be in the game? therefore if i am let's say not using backup perks or i have random bad teammates, i have to die because the killer doesn't want to be in the game? then why play? what about sluggers then? do you think we love sitting on floor forever cause they don't want to hook or kill? how about that? basically as expected, no matter what problem i encounter as a survivor, killer mains will tell me i am wrong. ok then.
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In a few cases, maybe.
Most of the time it's barely a big brain move to realize "Hey, I'm losing, guess I'll face camp."
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That has the erroneous implication it’s unfair to camp.
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IS BORING . and takes zero skills. basically camp cause u can't play the game . this is how i see it as surv main. fair/unfair it makes me wanna stop gaming after meeting this behaviour continously.
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The specific situation that you are complaining about "facecamping" is when a killer had killed two other survivors and there were only two left. It kind of sounds like you're complaining about camping when there's 2 people left.
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I've noticed a MASSIVE (at least 5x increase) in facecamping since a certain popular streamer spent a whole stream playing facecamp bubba "for science" a couple of days ago. Kinda wish they'd be a little more considerate with their influence, whatever their reason for doing it.
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that was my last game. but i play for hours daily. i gave my last game as an example because i asked the killer why he chose to camp me .
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oh , maybe is a fan group behaviour xD
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There is literally no reason to leave the hook when 2 people are left. By allowing the survivor to get the unhook for free, you are just delaying the match and wasting everyone's time. Your time, the survivor on the hook's time, and the final remaining survivor. Get that third survivor out of the match, so you can hurry the match to a close with the hatch, either closing it or them going out of it.
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Sometimes I meet killers which directly boosting that they tunnel and camp because its fun and ez. Collectors of -rep.
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Hooks were the greatest mistake in the game's design. If the killer of DbD ever comes out, it will not have anything like that.
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I'm against camping I don't camp, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you have bad team and the killers camping you're not force to stay in the match.
Killers have the choice to camp just like survivors have the choice to suicide on hook.
It is what it is.
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I mean it kind of seems like you should have started with a different example then. It's just undermined your entire point by complaining about the most reasonable time to camp in the game.
I'm not going to just respond to a post about facecamping with my own thoughts completely divorced from the topic. How would we possibly have a discussion if everyone is just venting about the last time they were facecamped? Each person may have a different definition of what they consider facecamping. Obviously, you consider this situation to be an example of facecamping. To me, it's a killer who just won the game and is now just trying to secure the 3rd kill before going to close hatch and patrol gates.
When most people complain about facecamping, they're complaining about facecamping the first person who was hooked which means that there was exactly one chase and everyone else just has to stick to generators. You are not describing that.
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I don’t know why you think anyone cares how you see gameplay strategies. Do you think it’s unfair for a person to go for headshots in a shooter? Or to play flankers against a team with no characters to protect against flankers?
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yea i gathered , as someone directed me to a stream segment of BHVR saying they won't punish campers. So we have to just keep hoping we get an active game rather being bored to death on hooks lol.
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i actually said this during my comments, in my replies. I am not a new player. i have 4k hours in it. And i've been camped in all ways and i've seen facecamping in all forms. Is not my problem you conclude i only talk about camping in 1 example. But ok. your right to your opinion.
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Every time I read about -rep I desperately wish I had this game on steam. God, having pages of salty survivors would be exquisite.
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imagine comparing shooters to dead by daylight. LOL.
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is pretty cheap on steam too if you are a fan of -rep xD
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People can camp at 2 survivors left, thats boring but at that point game is basically over anyway
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👍️👍️👍️
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Just wait until reassurance comes out
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Well, it's closer to shooters than it is to hockey, that's for sure
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Imagine fixing game design holes with in-game perks instead of proper patches and reworks
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I don’t think understanding that it’s end game (a reasonable time to camp) takes that much skill. That’s just me though.
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Facecamping sucks when it's not endgame and the killer has no reason to other than having very little skill but if the rest of your team is actually smart and plays it right they can punish the killer super hard and leave him with 1 kill and almost no bloodpoint gain. If someone is facecamping then they will almost always get a kill guaranteed so rushing the hook and trying to save when there are still 4-5 gens left just slows the game down and allows for the killer to go from 1 kill to 2 or more. Instead of this, survivors should do generators which if done right can get at least 3 generators done in the time it takes for one survivor to die. Of course I'm not saying that facecamping is good or should be done by any means but if your team knows how to counter it at the very least you can punish the killer heavily for doing so.
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You're not very good at locating if it takes that long. I leave hook when I hook second last and try to find last one if he saved I go back to hook but most of time they suicide and try to give their teammate hatch. So I think it just stupid to stay at hook. Had ever one killer to do that me was streamer I commented it was not smart because last person did last gen and escaped throug exit while he facecamped me on hook. He was dredge who could easily teleport to check the gens or exit and return to hook.
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Only us elite face camping lords know when to do it outside of the game. Have you ever seen an average killer just randomly do it? Cringe. Hell, people I consider quite intelligent personally do it at awkward times. There is a real craft to it that salty survivors would never admit, really. But I am willing to bet 1 BILlion face camp bucks that I am better at alpha male face camping than 99.9% of the people who exclusively camp end game. That is a lot of imaginary currency, friend.
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Have you? You've said, "I've been facecamped in other situations," but you haven't described a specific situation. The only situation you've described is one with 2 players where you're on the hook and the game is effectively over.
Based off of actual words you've used and actual situations you've described, what else am I supposed to conclude? You've only given 1 example! Give another example! Propose a solution! Be creative! Completely reimagine the game if you want to! Give a reason why the game should be different in this situation and how you would change incentives so the killer wants to go chase the other person because it's fun for them rather than just, "I'll wander aimlessly for 30 seconds, let them save, then go back quickly and hope they don't stealth for the next 10 minutes. Also, doing this will possibly cost me the game and there's really no incentive because if the last player chooses to do a generator they tell me where they are anyway and if they don't we're both going to go search for hatch anyway. I hope this person gets the hint and just realizes they should let go of the hook so all of us can play another game since this one is over."
But what is the actual discussion of this topic? From my perspective, it seems like you had a frustrating match. You created some random rule in your head that the killer had to follow. The killer decided that wasn't fun for them to do and they had already had a fulfilling match and were already in a position where they would win the game. Then you decided to come to the forum and post another topic about facecamping completely devoid of content or context.
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I honestly feel like playing killer just to prove survivors good fair killers exist and the game is not suppposed to go this way.
Sure, been there, done that, for the last 2 years.
I hope you don't expect anything but indifference, toxicity and with luck in the rarest case gratefulness from other survivors. And the fee that ARE grateful get easily drowned out in selective memory by twice as many jerks.
Just didn't feel rewarding or even being a little bit respected for being not like the other camping/tunneling killer and decided to finally quit the game.
Killer AND survivor are digging their own grave in being ungrateful and even toxic to people that try to be nice to then when the majority isn't.
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you are right, i've seen toxic survivors too, however i am not one of them. i never once even teabag or anything. I will try my luck as killer for a while xD afterall i finished everything a survivor can do in that game so far . ty for your reply
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@ rebel581 ok dr.Phil thanks for your input. You completely went in the wrong direction tho. but have a nice day regardless. see ya in the myst.
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tyyyy finally <3
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You say that like if sitting on gens wasn't boring and taking zero skills.
Yes, it is boring, but you only look at it from one side.
Yesterday, Lery as Huntress : stupid map, I'm already not interested anymore but I go seek a survivor nonetheless. Survivors are stealthy and it takes almost one minute to find one and thirty more seconds to down and hook him on one corner. At that point, BBQ shows three survivors pretty far away, busy on three separate gens. I start running towards the closest one but during the next ten seconds, all three gens pop. I've watched that movie many times already. I know they'll keep hiding and do two gens and maybe attempt a save. I'm looking at maybe another chase and maybe another down and then it'll be game over : boring. So I go back to the hook : if they want the save, they'll have to work for it, or leave. I really really don't care if they do it or don't. I just want to move to the next match ASAP. (And then when they finally all came after the gens were done, I managed to kill them all. Way more efficient than playing whac-a-mole.)
Which makes me think that Reassurance will not work the way many expect it to.
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LMFAO are you kidding with this post, they gave you a valid response as to why they faced camped you it was you and one other person at that point and your lacking some info how many gens were done, did the EGC start and would you rather them slug you until they found the other person posb leaving you to bleed out taking 4 min. You would think someone with 4k hours in the game would know this stuff and not just look at it as they just got face camped for no reason, BUT MAN DO SURVIVORS NEED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERY SMALL THING WITHOUT THINKING THAT IT'S THE BEST STRATGY THE KILLER CAN DO IN THAT MOMENT.
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