BT basekit buffed to 10 seconds

That is the point.

Stop tunneling the survivor who just came off the hook and go kill someone else.

Lmao used aggressively? If somebody body blocks a doorway for you then instead of counting to 5, count to 10! Now you have a free down.. Wow very aggressive lmfao. Off the record gives them borrowed time for 80 seconds.. it’s like some people don’t think and just love to complain

I feel like 7s is the more fair option, 5 was to short but 10 is way to long, I rather go after the unhooker but now I will have to deal with body blockers every unhook which is extremely lame and will absolutely cause me to tunnel you out of the game.

Still I wouldnt consider it a reliable conter to it which is a good thing tbh

They just need to make it so you don't have collision for that time. So you can't body block aggressively, and also the killer can't just body block you and wait out the 10 second timer.

If not that, i'd argue they should make the endurance last 5 seconds again, but buff the haste to like 15 seconds of 20% more movement speed (faster than killer) to actually discourage tunneling while making sure body blocking is discouraged.

Survivors not looping main building on DDS doesn't suddenly make it balanced. Basement is only dangerous against killers who can quickly get back to the basement in the first place.

Basement hasn't been truly dangerous for a long time and is outdated. Before Off the Record, Borrowed Time + DS made it so basement wasn't dangerous. Even without those perks, one person running We'll Make It is enough to offset the dangers of basement.

Big thumbs up to this change. Tunneling has been through the roof since DS got nerfed and the gen times increased.

This reminds me of something someone once said: Survivors haven't earned their escape until they've actually escaped. The same is true of killers.

If you haven't secured a kill by the EGC and the survivors go out of their way to get that 4E and succeed, it means you got outplayed. Just as survivors are not guaranteed escape, killers are not guaranteed kills.

Well... I mean, you literally do? I genuinely cannot even tell what your assumption is. Is Basement Bubba common or not, from your world view?

You need to change the time required for safe unhooks if you wanna change base by. The reason why it's 5 seconds is because for it to be a safe unhook they gotta not go down for 6 seconds so there's *some* risk involved, you don't wanna just give people free safe unhooks. If you want the base bt to be 10 seconds then you'll have to bump up the time required for a safe unhook to 12-15 seconds.

That and the point of baseline bt is to prevent immediate farming off the hook, it's not meant to supplement bt. You're supposed to be using the perk if you want to ensure safe unhooks.

They still need a full hook re-work.

There are two parties that are still getting the low end of the totem pole: The killer who do not camp and survivors in general.

I think these devs aren't considering factors like a hook being in a dead zone. 10 seconds mean nothing. They need more practical/meaningful CORE changes. By allowing something like PH's cages, they are giving that survivor more of a chance to "reset" before tanking on a 1v1 because the killer wants to make it easier on themselves by simply singling out that one survivor. Not only that but it would also prevent survivors from insta-farming and allowing the killer to have another free down.

The simple fact that they added:

"We released this feature with safe numbers to ensure that things don’t get out of hand."

When we all knew very well that even regular BT's timer wasn't enough which was already above the 10 seconds they just added, tells me they STILL do not know/understand their own game. It's mind-boggling that they are acting like killers only started camping and tunneling yesterday, when there is a lot of evidence showingcasing the opposite.

Finally, I love this one...

Wishful thinking: "We hope you’ll find these improvements to be much more effective in discouraging the Killer from chasing the same Survivor immediately after they’re unhooked."

Reality:

I wouldn't celebrate just yet, tunneling and camping killers are relentless, they'll find a way to ruin this maybe.

I feel like this is kind of a step in the right direction but it's still not enough. Sure you're safe once you're unhooked, but what about while you're hooked? How can a survivor rescue you from a camping killer without trading or unrealisticly high skill coordination?

It happens quite often. I've had survivors try and use there 5 seconds seconds bt to bodyblock me.

It's not that uncommon of a strategy and I will guarantee its about to be more common.

BHVR just needs to Remove collision to stop it.

I said it was an example and then I asked how many more examples did you want and then you proceeded to say I am a mono trapper main.

Why does endgame exist if you aren't suppose to be able to get a kill during it?

I like that idea but I don't know how you would incentive and make it so that spreading hooks is better.

If the killer hasn't secured a kill by that point, it's a skill issue.

You aren't entitled to a free kill in the endgame. Endgame is the result of survivors finishing their objective. If they make it to that point and you haven't a secured a kill, it is 100% a skill issue. Rancor exists, NOED exists, Blood Warden exists, No Way Out exists. The tools are there, it's up to the individual to make use of them.

Your objective as the killer is to prevent the survivors from completing their objective by sacrificing them. The survivors objective is to avoid being sacrificed while repairing generators to power the gates that allow them to escape.

I had put in a suggestion before where basically as gens get done there's a debuff to repair speed that disappears over time and as survivors get killed there's an increase in repair speed that disappears over time. I think it's probably too complicated to code though or there's just not enough people that like the idea.

Some other people have suggested a Dying Light type effect that slows down gens with hooks but disappears when the survivor is killed.

I think the main issue, besides coding, with them is 2 and 3 person SWFs sometimes treat the solos like cannon fodder so I could see SWFs just deciding to let the rando one hook for the repair speed buff.

It's a tough question; that's for sure.

Personally, I haven't been getting there very often lately anyway lol survivors are probably better off bringing Left Behind or Sole Survivor imo