Making BT Basekit Leads to More Unsafe Unhooks and More Tunneling

That's the thing a lot of people were complaining about camping and tunneling and base-kit BT needed a buff but out off all those people that complained how many of them were doing unsafe unhooks, when i play killer it's a joke how many survivors will do a unsafe hook be it just as i hook them they were there waiting to unhook right away, i start walking away and bam they unhook or the one i love the most i could be on other side of the map and the survivor i find starts to run for the save and even after being hit they keep going for the save to the point i down them in front of the hook.

So it's fine to say survivors will have a chance now but they also need to own up about when they are unhooking and start doing safer unhooks, if you give the killer a reason to go back to the hook be it in chase or you unhook a survivor 5 sec after they leave then sorry if the unhooked survivor is tunneled and hooked again that's on your teammate not the killer.

It depends on the survivor some of us don't really need to use OTR and some of us like to make random builds for fun or try to make a build based on their gameplay style which not always uses OTR if your style is more gen rush, totem hunt, or noise distracting type builds

Camping bubbas be like:

That's part off the deal when you join a lobby you never know who will be on your team, it's like that with most games even ones that aren't pvp based or 1 vs 4, take FF14 when you queue for pvp or just even a trail depending on your class your taking the risk of getting a bad tank, healer or even dd.

So no matter how much they tweak the matchmaking there will always be those times when you will get bad teammates or your the weak link in the team, yes solo q does need some work even just something to let your team know what your doing i.e working on gen next to your name.

The biggest problem that the devs are heading towards and not sure how many people have picked up on it if they keep making things base kit for survivors or killers is that it will promote bad plays, punish killers who are trying to play fair and not tunnel, make things to easy for survivors knowing they have base kit to save them. There has to be a line the devs draw and at that point they pretty much have to tell players that they need to improve there skills as survivor or killer and as much as people claim to be in the high mmr bracket they are not.

It might hurt and piss people off but they can't keep adding stuff to base kit on both sides or have a perk band aid a problem, when the simple fact is that the players just need to improve on there game skills for DBD.

And killers could argue that some perks or base-kit BT shouldn't work in EGC because it puts the killer in a lose/lose situation soon as the EGC timer starts it should be all or nothing unless your killer build was for endgame but that meant playing the match with 1-2 perks, it should pretty much get out once gates are open if you want to come back for your teammate that's fine but some things won't wont like perks and base-kit BT.

"Survivor should lose collision. So they can not bodyblock for their teammates and killer can not tunnel them easily. Fair change for both sides." this part i agree on fully cause if you body block me going for the unhooker then im going right after you and not them now, it's not just now but the future of DBD people are wanting base-kit DS and it buffed back up to 5 sec but they seem to forget why it went from 3 sec to 5 sec and the promise the devs made about the time.

So when do the devs say no we are not making anything more base-kit if your teammates do a unsafe hook that's on them not the killer, you can't expect the killer to pick a healthy survivor over one that's injured of it was a really bad play form you teammate, that's what worries me is a lot of people asking for things to be base-kit and not looking/thinking outside the box and what problems that could cause to the game.

Yer i agree with you on that they need to look at the mmr system and matching making the lobbys are just to random at the moment and solo q does need some love.

Who knows if they will or won't we know what they are like, to me i would rather them look at killers that struggle at the start and if they can buff them in a way i.e trapper gets a speed boost at the start but after first hook or hitting a survivor goes back to normal speed, corrupt for killers would make some even stronger like nurse and help out weaker ones like Myers.

Just have to say thankyou it's been a civilized chat with you and the points going back and forth between us, it's not often you get this on the forum.

It's impossible to get an "unsafe unhook" unless you're against bubba since it's 10 seconds which is exactly when an unhook is considered safe. You're also forgetting you have 10 seconds of 10% haste which means you're as fast as 110% and 115% are barely catching up with you that is enough time to start looping etc before going down.