NEW CHAPTER: A TWIST OF FATE (SPIRIT IS NOW RIN, A SURVIVOR)
**NOT MY ORIGINAL IDEA***
A while back, another forum member and I were discussing dream chapter ideas. The forum member brought up a fantastic idea.
It's about a twist of fate.
What if BHVR had chapters where certain Killers had become Survivors instead of Killers?
Hold your horses. I'm not saying Spirit is removed from the game. I'm saying that Rin is added to the game as a Survivor. Here's how it would work. In an alternate reality, at the moment Rin was dying, the Entity took her and made her into a Survivor--dooming her to repeat her trauma. How's that for a new level of horror! The Entity is such a malevolent being that it wants Survivors to re-live their darkest moments and literally face off against their darkest selves. It's a very nuanced and mature lore, to be honest. Rin facing Spirit is a literal manifestation of the "sliding doors" theory/the butterfly effect. The idea that our entire lives could've gone differently if only we had made one different decision.
Personally, I would love to see Spirit as a Survivor. I've always felt bad for her and thought her lore was among the best. Her cosmetics would be incredible, too, and simply seeing Rin and Spirit in the same game would be so cool. On that note, I think having a similar cosmetic for both Rin and Spirit that incorporates a butterfly would be a nice homage to the "butterfly" effect idea.
**This idea is also applicable for other characters, but I'd love for it to start with Spirit and Rin.**
*** If that forum member still uses the forums and sees this, I hope you comment/make your own post about it. You might have come up with some more concrete ideas by now and I'd love for you to share them. ***
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I've seen fan content play around with role switches between survivors and killers, and it's really cool to imagine what powers would survivors have if they were a killer, or how killers would adapt if they had been survivors.
I'd love to see Survivor!Wraith as well !
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Same! I thought of Wraith, too! Poor Philip . . .
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OH MY ######### GOD YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! WHEN I PKAY KILLER I WILL ALWAYS LET RIN LIEV!!!’nnn
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Dead By Daylight: A Twist of Fate: Fatal Crescendo
New Killer: The Idol (Yun-Jin Lee)
New Survivor: Ji-Woon Hak
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Yeah, I like the idea of a character being both a killer and a survivor. I had a similar suggestion a while back for a chapter where the Observer becomes both a survivor AND a killer. Basically he has conjured up a dark version of himself, a "creature of the id" or Hyde to his Jekyl, so can appear simultaneously as both a survivor and a killer in a match. His killer ability would probably involve conjurations or the Entity helping him out in various ways, while his survivor perks might have to do with killer and map knowledge and summoning ways to help himself survive.
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Personally I love the idea of a chapter based around the butterfly effect, where one event early on in someone's life leads them to be either a survivor or a killer, and the survivor and killer in that chapter would be the same person. If you need to bring Black Vale into it you can ig
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I will pay all my money for this so I can now loop killers as Rin omg I need this RIGHT NOW.
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Along with Spirit and Trickster, I would also totally be here for Artist as a survivor, or possibly even Blight.
As for survivor -> killer, Meg already has a lot of experience killing survivors anyway so she's my top pick.
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Personally it should be Blight because I thought in his lore he did start out as a survivor and was one of the closest to escaping the entity before becoming a killer. I might be entirelly misremembering it though xD
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You to BHVR when they regretfully try to say, "Well, we can't actually do that because--"
lol
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Hahahaha 😂😂
I literally laughed when I read that Meg comment 😂 lol
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That is a really great idea. Perhaps BHVR could even do a Rift around that theme somehow.
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Oh, hell to the yes.
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What the chapter should've been.
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That's a cool idea. It takes the lore up a notch, too.
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People already lust hard for Killer Ji-Woon. Survivor Ji-Woon might just break the game lol
(But that actually would be cool. I do really like the idea of having different universes/timelines converge. It also makes the Entity seem more powerful).
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Ooh, I like the Butterfly Effect idea too!
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Trickster shouldnt be a survivor. Most killers and even the survivors who did bad things mostly were just pushed to those circumstances when they eventually snapped. Trickster is just a monster. He tourtures his victims and kills them not for survival, not because he doesnt know its wrong, not out of self defence but just because he enjoys it. Lots of killers have like turning points of when they became killers Trickster just enjoys it. He would definitely be my least favourite killer to see as a survivor unless they somehow entirely reworked his personality and backstory.
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What if they twist all expectations and make Rin's father a Survivor?
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I was thinking he'd be the Killer in the chapter. But maybe they could expand on the lore a bit to make that more understandable; like maybe the Entity poisoned his mind (similar to The Amityville Horror), and after killing his family, he's overcome with excruciating regret and disbelief and goes to take his own life. The Entity then takes him as a Survivor, where he has to relieve the same fear he inflicted on his family, trial after trial. And instead of Rin vowing revenge and becoming the Killer, his wife could do it. But I'd honestly like Rin's mom as a Survivor, too.
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If they added an alternate Rin Yamaoka to the game as survivor and many of her cosmetics also cross over that'd be amazing any I'd be all for it.
They could easily make a few pesos off of having auric cell-only cosmetics that applied to both Spirit and Rin.
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I love this idea
Make Rin's father the Killer and Rin the Survivor... And think of the perks (OH BOY)
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This was my idea I think though if it was someone else feel free to correct me but I remember your username from something. I can't remember the original thread but I put more organized idea from the thread into the creations section. Maybe that was a mistake because it's quite dead in there but it does belong there and my stuff got moved a bit already at the time. I started with Joey but always planned to do Rin, Philip and Susie too.
The simple premise is that we can explain multiple survivors in one trial due to different universes. The observer even makes a comment on 'Emperor Dwight'. Considering how ridiculous that is, Joey, Rin, Susie and Philip being survivors is a much smaller leap. The idea is that one decision changed the path of each to make them a survivor rather than a killer. Rin would be taken by sadness rather then hatred. Joey and Susie would refuse to kill the cleaner and be mortally wounded by Frank and Julie. Philip would not kill Azarov but instead be killed by him.
I was going to update that thread once I had the model done. People tend to like pretty pictures more then words but words are the only thing I've got.
I'm still working on it and have someone working on a model for Joey survivor though fan artists can contact me with any of them if they want to help me out. I'll hire people to do it, but not for 'too' much.
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Boiling Rage (Rin Yamaoka Survivor Perk)
Years of suffering after a tough end has also taught you ways to make your enemies suffer like you did.
At the start of the trial you receive a Katana, and you see the aura of the killer for the entire trial, when within 4 meters of the killer, press the active ability button to cut the killer to pieces and automatically win the trial, this perk also grants you to double pip and earn maximum blood points.
'' She inherited incredible fury from her ancestors. The wrath that flows through her veins is her legacy. The terrible pain she suffered set it off. Swift and lethal, The Spirit exacts her revenge endlessly. '' - Potentially Benedict Baker.
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Dead By Daylight:
A Twist of Fate: Loud Hill
New Killer: The Spouse Suffocater (James Sunderland)
New Survivor: Red Pyramid Boi
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It might've been you! Glad you saw the post! I did find some human versions of Rin online. In a pinch, you could use those if you focused on just her to start.
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Holy Switchero Batman! This idea is pure,f-ing gold! ! !
Artist / Carmina would work great, too, as would the Knights of Mischief (or
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RIGHT? There's so much BHVR could do with this! From perks, to cosmetics, to rifts. It could really up the game in a new and exciting way. I would love to play as Rin. Maybe there could even be a slightly different animation mechanic if Spirit moris Rin. Maybe they both do something slightly different, something that they don't do with anyone else. Could be anything really. Maybe after Spirit screams at the end of the mori, the camera looks at her eyes and we see her expression change (maybe in regret of what she did). Maybe Rin does something similar, like she asks, "Why?" right before she dies.
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lol you and Rin could share a special moment at every game. She teabags once at the gate and nods at you to show her appreciation. It's your mutual redemption lol
But seriously, I would love for this to happen!
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Whenever her survivor version will teabag me or if her killer version hits me on hook, it’s out of love 🥰
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It is a very interesting concept. I'm curious how the survivor versions of some of the killers like Blight, Doctor, and Amanda (Pig) would turn out. They'd be "good guys", but have that heavy killer potential in them. They'd be more dark.
Particularly as some of the killers either were or were potentially survivors. Freddy, Sally Smithson, Amanda Young, Caleb Quinn. Caleb was a bastard for sure, but but he was built to survive. I have a feeling Amanda would be a ruthless survivor.
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I'm not sure they could make Amanda and Freddy because of licensing issues (maybe though!). If BHVR let you choose one Killer to be a Survivor or vice versa, who would you choose?
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