How would you Nerf/Balance Nurse?

Nobody would play nurse anymore. Most nurse players are bad and can’t win, that’s why her winrate is the worst of all killers. Good nurses are rare.

With this change, nobody would try to learn her anymore. Compare this nerfed-nurse to blight and how easy he is to play. It’s night and day.

I think she should have her own personal mechanic introduced that is similar to Billy's overheat mechanic (We are gonna call it fatigue) except everything that she does contributes to it. Upon hitting certain thresholds, she starts taking negatives to everything she does across the board, carry speed, pick up speed, break speeds, blind recovery speed, everything. She will need to throttle herself down to keep from getting to deep into fatigue that she becomes unless post chase.

The idea is that all survivor builds become viable against her. Boil Over, Unbreakable, Power Struggle, all Exhaustion perks, everything becomes more effective. I would even implement a permanent debuff that would apply for the rest of the trial if the player manages to fill the fatigue meter (the regular debuff will still dissipate normally). I think this would go well with her breathe aesthetician, as well as the lore she is screaming in pain whenever she blinks.

Blinks as special attacks and hard add-on nerfs.

Their 2 separate modes, but its not necessarily like Oni. Think of it more like old Doc where he could switch between the two easily. What I was going for wasn't explained too well and I plan on making an entire post on its own to go more into detail and iron out some things.

Also, yes, this would make her weaker. Believe it or not thats the point. There is no reason why a killer with such a strong power has basically no drawbacks. Nurse is unhealthy for the game, period.

man you already read the post that supposedly irons things out and actually has more thought put into it?

you from the future?

So then what was the Dead Hard rework? If fun is subjective it should of never of gotten touched right? Not every one had an issue with it and they were VERY clearly in the minority. Same can be said with Nurse.

And while you're right that you can't make something more fun because its different depending on who you ask, you can make something well designed and overall more healthy for the game. Which is exactly what the Dead Hard rework achieved, and is what needs to happen to Nurse

I think the game should get rid of %-variable addons. Just make every addon a meme or "mini-perk" instead of boosting charge speed, range, steering, cooldown or whatever. Give some (brown or yellow effects) of the lost max potential stats to the basekit of killers and rework all affected addons. Maybe excluse Nurse with the basekit compensation, just for the survivor community.

Wouldn't help Nurse because she'd still be the best and we can't have a "the best" killer in this community. The devs could nerf the current "the best" killer 10 times in a row and survivors would still moan that "the best" killer is too strong.

what good Nurse is falling for "mindgames" in an open area? You can literally react to the Survivors movements

I don't even consider myself a good Nurse player but there isn't a single Survivor out there that can mindgame me out in the open unless I'm playing for shits and giggles and try going for 360 blinks or some ######### like that. Yes Nurse is about predictions and reads but thats only when you add LoS breakers into the mix.

Now maybe if theres a considerable amount of distance between the 2, then yeah theres a read involved. But if you can make up most the distance with just 1 blink (which is 20m, not hard to pull of) , and a Survivor has literally nothing, then they're screwed. Plain and simple

Copied from my WIP design changes document, formatting might be wonky.

Nurse currently starts to recover blink charges when the fatigue starts. I would propose she instead starts to recover after the fatigue is completed. The green recharge add-on would instead lose the 20%, and make Blink charge recovery work how it currently does, on fatigue start.

Another commonly quoted nerf would be making Blink attacks count as Special Attacks, instead of basic. This would be fair considering they nerfed Awakened Awareness almost exclusively due to Nurse being able to abuse this, especially when paired with Starstruck.

There are claims that Nurse would be worthless without basic attack blinks. To counter that I say Huntress thrown Hatchets, Demogorgon Shreds, Blight Rushes, Pig Charges, Oni Blood Fury uncharged M1s all work fine without being basic attacks. Plus she still has basic attacks if people attempt bodyblocking hooks when carrying survivors, when you have someone cornered on the edge of the map and can hit with the lunge, and when using the Spasmodic Breath or Matchbox add-ons. Finally for a bit of a history lesson, Nurse Blink attacks used to be Special Attacks, and were changed to basic attacks when Mettle of Man worked on basics as opposed to protection hits.

I think the above is good enough, but an additional idea would be to lock the camera when blinking, so that you cannot turn until you reach the blink destination. This would be disabled when using the Campbell’s Last Breath addon, re-enabling moving the camera during blinks. (Personally I think this would be too far if combined with the above nerf/nerfs, but the more ideas to play with the better.)

It's not open if nurse got "stuck" on the tree (which she was thanks to need for a flashbang dodge). So no. This does not count. And not because of comp

Ok. So your answer is, that some survivors with specific items can sometimes delay nurse under specific conditions to not always get the hit right away, but 5s later. I guess I agree then.

Still - that is not balance.