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How to win as Killer now?
The moment you hook someone, 3 gens is done. this happen so many times, im on ash rank, but im always against super good survivors. i think the ranking is broken
And if you end up chasing someone. U just lose the game, i hook several ppl in the game afterwards, no tunnel.
the moment i hook the second guy only 1 gen is left. and still a ton of pellets left on the map. what do u do then?
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Uh... Play a bit better and dont rely on camping with noed and no way out? I'm having zero trouble as killer. Any loss I face is because I got outplayed in chase.
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You're going to lose gens. Only Blight/Nurse can get away with losing very little gens early on
Don't sweat the first 2 or so gens, unless survivors all spawn together or you have corrupt - you can't pressure all 4 at once
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You don't.
When survivors want to do gens, that's the result.
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im not the best at killer, i got the first guy after 2 loops in under 30 seconds, but when i play survivors i always have teammates who refuse to do gens
its over 5 minutes, im the one who did the 1st gen
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Most killers win now due to the midchapter patch, killers have plenty of opportunitys to win, maybe you need more practice or better perks or try a different killer. I dont think the survivors are the issue...
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Killer requires insanely high skill atm, and the matchamking is 100% broken.
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huh, I've been winning (3k or more) on killer most of the time and have been losing a lot more as survivor since the midchapter, killer is probably in the best state its ever been in with all the survivor nerfs and killer base buffs. Tho true on the god like opponents and then noob teammates.
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This is what I was talking about in another thread. You either play dirty and everyone complains or you play fair and get curb stomped by any survivors who are competent.
It's a no win and forces the killers to play dirty to and unfun.
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Hard to say without you posting a vod of your gameplay.
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The path to the easiest victory right now as killer is as follows.
Run Corrupt intervention. Run 3 regression perks that fit well into the killers playstyle.
If you are running jolt or a kick build, patrol a 3-4 gen and never leave them the entire game.
Win for free.
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1: Stop complaining about hitting endgame when you have an endgame perks on.
2. Don't go for every chase that comes your way. If you chase for around 20 seconds without hitting the survivor, consider dropping it and patrol gens.
3. If you're on the last gen and they're very close together, DON'T CHASE SURVIVORS OUTSIDE OF THE 3 GEN.
4. And yes, I do have to mention this because of your killer choice, Facecamping sucks and is inefficient, don't do it. You'll miss out on pressure you could be exerting elsewhere.
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I had a daily with spirit and within a few minutes the survivors had 4 of the gens done. It happens, some teams will just try to gen rush you for the entire game. I just went to the gate and waited for them to do the last one and opened it and went on to the next match.
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Not true. You probably have never faced good swf if you think so. Most games are easily winnable as killer but then when you face 5K hour each swf you will be put back on reality. This is reason why you should always equip noed just in case. They will gen rush you so fast that you stand no chance and they are reason why killers should get lot more buffs to compete. They all ofcourse run loops smoothly and don't make mistakes. Tunneling barely work agains't them they need only few minutes to complete all gens and someone will bodyblock for tunneled one when he is about to go down. They abuse survivor sided maps. I will not ever again play Oni after facing one they really show how weak killer he is.
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You are still noob. So yeah, Killer role is to entertain Survivors, you are an entertainer. You are not to win, you cannot win.
A clown, a literal 🤡 if you pick that Killer.
Survivor is the power role, they are the ones to win, play Survivor with Discord and your friends to win. That also brings more money to the game if you all buy skins.
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Maybe start with a killer that's a bit more beginner-friendly ? Chainsaw users can be tricky at times, and if you're facing experienced survivors (as you're suspecting) you might be forced to revert into M1 if you're not used to your chainsaw yet.
I hear Wraith is a really good base game killer to get some experience on how to play killer and counter loops, once you give him better perks than his base 3 (that are pretty bad in my opinion).
I personally started with Legion, who is quite intuitive as well. His power lets you pressure pretty much the whole map and delay gens with Deep Wounds. Experienced players will tend not to heal against them as well, which essentially gives you NOED for the whole game. Clearly not the best killer the higher your mmr gets, but comfortable and pleasant to play (especially with range add-ons!).
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How to win as killer now? Turn on the monitor, that’s all
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Just play Pig bro
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This is what I was talking about in another thread. You either play dirty and everyone complains or you play fair and get curb stomped by any survivors with more then a brain cell between them.
It's a no win and forces the killers to play in unfun ways for the survivors.
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You have an endgame build. What do you expect?
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Some general things I do
- Don’t worry so much if you lose two or three gens early on, the first gens are the hardest to defend since all four survivors are active and the gens are the most spread out. Most of the action really takes place on the last two gens when you have someone on a hook and someone else being chased and maybe a third person downed, etc.
- Rather than try and defend the entire map the whole game, take a moment early on to identify four gens that are more or less in the same half of the map and focus mainly on defending those. You’ll have a much better time in the midgame if you have established a smaller zone of control than if you have gens split across the map.
- To that end, in the beginning don’t overcommit to your first chases. If you can get a hit or down quickly, great! If they get to a pallet just force the pallet drop, break it (unless it’s a really weak pallet maybe) and consider switching targets to someone else who is actively working on a gen. Getting rid of pallets in your anticipated zone of control early establishes dead areas near the gens you patrol ghat you can take advantage of later in the midgame.
- After a down, take a moment to consider if there is someone or something else nearby worth chasing or breaking before picking them up for a hook. The downed survivor isn’t getting up right away so you have a little time to extend your pressure to get another hit or even another down if there’s another survivor you can get to. Especially if the survivor you down is only on their first hook, and you know there are other survivors who would be on second or third hook, keeping that first hook survivor slugged can give you about 10 extra seconds or so to reach a more valuable target and chase them off a gen or down them. Obviously you don’t want to skip hooking all the time, but sometimes slugging to extend your immediate pressure is worth losing that first hook state that you don’t need right away.
- Finally a general rule of thumb is, if a survivor wants you to do something, then your best bet is do something else. For example, do you have a survivor who is obviously trying to get you to chase them? Ignore them since they’re trying to distract you from someone else and go after that other target. Is a survivor obviously trying for a bodyblock? If you can efficiently get around them ignore the bodyblocker and hit the survivor they’re trying to protect. Did the survivors leave the Exit near you at 99%? If you’re not in a chase open that gate yourself, you’ll get the 500 bloodpoints for it and also start the timer they were hoping would remain stalled. Basically whatever the survivors actually want you to do is probably the opposite of what you should do.
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Ehm why the repost in the SAME thread?
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Still further earning that place on my list, I see.
And giving less and less about not sounding like a troll, hm?
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I mean your pictures aren't a lot to go off of. Maybe your chases were way too long? You could run slowdown perks to make it easier to go for longer chases, but that's just a bandaid fix. Learn when to drop chases, whether because they're too long, or they reached a really good loop that'll waste a ton of your time.
I'd say the best option you could do is to play a game of killer where you had a rough time, have it recorded, and post it on another post. Ask people what you did wrong, and you'll receive some feedback. Right now, it's hard to judge what you did wrong or right from just 2 pictures.
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Plan A) psychologically devastate the survivors, makingthem lose all hope at 5 gens
Plan B) play forthe 3 gen, and focus on having a guy dead by the time theres 1 genny left then try to protect that last genny
Plan B has been going smoothly for me as Wesker thanks to Coulrophobia
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Hey, I saw you were playing bubba. A great build if you prefer to camp would be Noed, Deadlock, and two of your more favored perks <Corrupt if you are not confident in your early game chases, or lethal for finding survivors. pain resonance is a great perk to stall out their objectives>. if you multi hook
Also, if getting 1 kill is your goal I recommend Rancor and\or Noed to at least secure one kill during endgame but itis up to you. personally, I try to just 2 hook everyone or just go for the rancor mori and am happy with that. I definetly think you should take a break if the game is getting to frustrating for you <I have before and its helped immensely>.
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not every loss is honestly getting outplayed in chase, there's map you can predrop and just run safe loops where it takes a long time to get them and if you're going for hooks you wont win the game.
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going for hooks means you already dont care about the win condition because going for hooks is antithetical to going for the win.
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I literally 4k easily as DOCTOR of all killers, it's kinda a skill issue on your part
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You realize that your grade (Ash, Bronze, Silver, etc) has literally nothing to do with matchmaking anymore? It's all based on the SBMMR system now, which doesn't reset every month like grades. It has zero influence with the survivors you are being matched with.
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I havent played in a long time and have over 3k hours. every survivor i faced know how to loop super well and its just beyond frustrating. i guess ill afk constantly to lower my MMR? is that how it works? playing games like this is completely no fun and im not a god tier killer
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I greatly disagree on the ninetynined gates bit. Survivors usually leave the gates ninetynined to prevent blood warden, not because of the timer, so I would be wary of opening gates for no reason.
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Survivors 99% the gates for both Bloodwarden and simply to make sure they have enough time to mount a rescue. I’ve yet to have someone escape because opened a 99% gate myself and starting the endgame timer on its own helps you as killer and hurts survivors, it alone is enough reason to do it.
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I enjoy when killers “play dirty” as it were.
Yes it’s pvp but it’s not a completely fair scenario. It’s fleeing from a big scary monster, the nastier and scarier the monster the better.
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