So when is BHVR going to accept that they overbuffed killers?

Yeah, as an example last night I got tunneled off hook and the Killer downed me just as my DS was about to run out. I then DSed the Killer and ran them until after my OTR timer ran out and I started making injured noises (Endurance was obviously long gone before the DS). A bit after that I went down and got hooked for the second time.

I don't know the exact time but I'd guess roughly 2 minutes from unhook to halfway through second stage which is when a gen finally popped. I unhooked myself with Deliverance so nobody even had to come to rescue but, for roughly 2 minutes with the Killer focusing on just me, no gens popped.

We didn't lose because the Killer tunneled; we lost because people didn't do gens. In games where gens pop under this exact same scenario It's quite often a 3E or 4E.

But I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I'm just saying that having a killer PP does not a killer main make, and same for survivors. Sorry if you felt hostility.

Killers weren't overbuffed,they were given help with tiny increases with breaking,M1 cooldown,and such.

What really makes survivor "hard" is that now a lot of survivors that were being hard carried by DS and DH are now realizing they're actually dog doodoo at the game. So they're inhaling copium by the lungful because they can't cheese a chase to last longer than it should've been and now have to actually learn to loop tiles and play ball without their free get out of jail or loop extending card anymore. If you can't effectively play after the patch (where you no doubt changed your build with all the nerfs) then you can't have a say because you're literally the same person who copied a build and used it thinking you're good when you can't even loop an M1 killer.

I used SB before the DH nerf and I still use it now,I'd rather leave the thought of a chase altogether than try to loop and get smacked down because I can't do it too well.

Other than the +10 seconds on each gen the only killer's that got massively affected were m1 killers. And guess what if the survivors are good m1 killers will struggle still. Thinking that killers have to be bad to not get a 4k now shows either your skill level at the game or the amount of bad teammates you get due to mmr. Genuinely a good(rarity on both sides in this game) solo team can walk over most killers in this game on a decent map. Not to mention the fact that there are way more survivor sided maps than killer ones. Survivor's really overexaggerate the current state of the game. What does solo queue need? Base game info to help them out and mmr being more consistent. People forget that survivors way of getting mmr is much less accurate compared to killers, and that leads to people who shouldn't be in your games being there.

You are either downplaying potential survivor skill expression or overstating killer power. Are blight and nurse op? Yes but they are the killer equivalent of swf.

I dont get what you mean. Did I say survivors play efficiently or killers camping/tunneling under the wrong circumstance or something?

I play mostly with SWF. It does not suddenly make you an elite death squad of sweaty navy seals here to execute the killer.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say killer was “overbuffed”. I think some killers like Nurse and Blight disproportionately benefitted from the buffs, for sure. I was hoping some of the stronger killers were brought more in line before buffing the rest of the cast, but that didn’t happen unfortunately.

My problem has been with solo queue specifically. I play solo exclusively, and in my matches I’ve seen a massive increase in tunneling and camping. Like, they don’t even try to go for the unhooker at all, and the base kit BT doesn’t seem to help all that much. They all run Save the Best for Last since it got kinda buffed by extension, and I’ve been seeing A LOT of Deadlock lately too. It’s a far tougher meta for sure. Because I can’t communicate with my teammates in any meaningful way, it’s hard to try to make plays to save people or get the gens done in time. Most of my matches end with 3 people dead and a hatch escape if the killer doesn’t slug for the 4K.

I definitely think killers NEEDED a buff, but I also think solo queue needs one too now. Desperately.

Yeah, they did. The buffs were overkill, especially for solo players.

Good question. When was the last time they made the correct decision about something? And how many years of data did it take for them to finally admit it?

I also solo queue and the trials where I have a tunneling or camping killer are actually pretty rare. When the game ends in our defeat it's usually because no one is doing gens, saves are late resulting in a second stage on first hook, babyrage DC's and above all because I and my teammates suck at survivor.

You know how I know I suck at survivor? Because I'm an Iridescent killer and I face Iri survivors.

I know what a good survivor looks like and my brother, I'm not it. I am trying to get better though.

So yeah, I think the killer buffs were fine. Ask yourself honestly, are things like slightly faster bloodlust and breaking times the reason you might be losing games?

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If you are struggling to beat killers then that is on you. The majority of killers can be easily be beaten as survivors still have the time advantage.

What happened was the buffs to killers made the worst aspects of DBD stronger. Anti gen perks, camping/ tunnelling. Survivors are bored and frustrated with behaviours attitude of taking away many of the things that drew survivors in the first place and now are resorting to just trolling for entertainment. Survivor is jut not fun any more, and this is exactly what I thought would happen. The middle ground survivors are quitting and what will be left is massive gap between the skill level of survivors.

People seem to forget that the base time for gen times were chosen not just for balance but for entertainment. 80 seconds per gen was determined to be how long survivors can do gens for before losing interest. They picked the max time possible and have sat on it for years. Now they want to up it not caring that 80 seconds was chosen because any longer and people were getting bored and started throwing matches. Current DBD makes a lot of sense and behaviour needs to acknowledge that survivor is just boring.

I didnt say its a problem, I said the number isnt a little.

But STBFL still stay with 10% cool down definitely need a nerfed to bring it back to 1.2sec cool down at 8 stacks.