Not a single killer has used a hex totem perk in my 24 hour survivor dbd run

Most Hex perks are not even worth running. They're suppose to have a lot more power in them than what v perks would have that survivors can easily turn off. Now a days they're providing too little reward for high risk and all to often they get popped with in the first min or 2 of the match considering a lot of times they're not hidden and just out in the worst hiding spots.

Some of them prob work just fine if they're just a basic perk.

Only time I run hexes is for tomes or once in a blue moon Pentimento + Plaything. Ever since I started I avoided them. I'd much rather get consistent value from a perk that can't be removed before I even have a chance to walk to the totem.

Ruin has always been the most common hex since its inception, and it's dead now. Right now, Blood Favor, Devour, and Plaything are the only ones worth running without some fully dedicated hex build, and the first two are so unreliable on their own that you shouldn't bother unless you're in mid-low MMR.

I guess there's also NOED, but NOED got worse at the thing it was best at doing and I've also been seeing it much less.

Speaking of the worst hiding spots, that's another ding against hexes lately. The latest maps (Eyrie, new Haddonfield, Garden of Joy, new RPD) have some of the most half-assed totem spots since Ormond. It's like they didn't even try to hide them and just dropped them wherever. Hexes can actually be good on a map like Swamp, Lery's or Midwich where the hex can spawn in some hidden nook or off in a corner of the map that nobody will ever visit unless they're looking for bones, but you're automatically screwed if you load into Autohaven or Macmillan and your totem options are either out in the open, on a hill, or next to a generator. After a string of maps with good totem placement (Hawkins, Dead Dawg, Yamaoka, Midwich), it seems like their design philosophy has regressed back to option 2.

Now that Ruin has been dumpstered, I think most people are realizing that Hexes are too high-risk. Maybe they’ll finally let the Killer place their Hex where they want it instead of praying to the RNG gods.

The only good ones were Ruin and NOED. The issue is they completely gutted them. So, yeah, no real reason to run a hex except for challenges or the meme.

I've had two today.

Far less than it used to be.

Hexes were always unreliable, however i stopped using them because of cheaters. Half a year ago there was so many of them, they always go for cleansing in the beginning of match, and then later it was confirmed that they were indeed cheating, when i noticed their wallhacks or subtle speedhacks. Id rather use a perk that cant be deactivated by a subtle cheater, although they can ruin my game in other ways.

Honestly Crowd Control in a major way is pretty worse than Bamboozle.

If a survivor fast vaults a window, they are on the otherside of the window and can just run away since they will have the curse now. With Bamboozle you generally trap the survivor on the same side with you and it's easier for survivors to miss over the chase music.

I've seen a crap ton of blood favor recently

Devour is the only one I sometimes bring. It's risky and sometimes it does get cleansed right away - and other games you get 2 Moris off at 3 gens and sweep

your post is golden. They're high risk, low reward reward perks. I find it a bit funny because when developers added these hex perks originally. they said these perks were originally designed to be stronger perks then normal perks with game-changing effects that supposedly were impossible to ignore. As result they could be removed from the match. Ironically, you can ignore all hexes perks as survivor through skill.

i do, hex perks are strong and very fun to use but they're doomed because of how they spawn but when they stay a decent while they give you good value.

This. Devour Hope may be awesome the 1 out of 100 games it procs but hexes usually spawn in brilliant spots like next to gens, at the top of hills or right next to a survivor. Even if you get a 3 stack down it's gone 30 seconds afterwards because there are plenty of people who have the totem spawns memorized at this point.

Hexes are kind of a joke. It's not even that they're weak, there's still really strong ones, they just don't last. I like going all in with builds, and I'm not that bothered about whether or not they work, so I'll run four hexes every so often - something like blood favour, crowd control, devour and 3rd seal - half the time all four are gone within a couple of minutes, the other half three are gone and one lasts for a while.

They aren't typically well hidden, survivors spawn on them, they spawn next to gens, the locations are known well to experienced players...I'd add that survivors have many perks and the like to find them but they aren't ran and they aren't needed, either.

As an added bonus it feels kinda horrible getting them booned over, 1/16 of the other team's perks overriding your 1/4 - and I get this one is completely irrational because if a survivor without boons sees your hex it's gone even quicker, there's still a depressing feel to it even so.

I wish they'd take a good look how totems work in general because boons are also kind of a failure in their own, different way.

I tried a few Hex builds with Devour Hope, and when they don't get cleansed in the first minute and you get at least one solid down with 3 tokens and then the gen repairs screech to a grinding halt, as everyone frantically searches for the Devour totem, then you got a fun game. But for every one such game you got 3-5 were your totem gets cleansed without having any effect at all.

The "high risk, high reward" tagline feels like an advertisement lie from the last century: totally out of date and replaced a hundred times by more effective stuff, ie perks.

The one Hex build that you see with any kind of regularity is the Plaything/Pentimento combo, as that one is pretty strong and basically keeps itself alive. You CAN try to sneak a Devour Hope in all those hex totems, but thats again a lot of eggs in one basket and with doubtful efectiveness.

That being said, today I had the most fun match as a survivor: I had a "cleanse 15 totems" tome challenge equiped and a full totem hunter build seasoned with a little bit of effectiveness: Counterforce/Detective Hunch/Inner Healing/Overzealous. The fun thing was that I was up against a Pentimento build using Pyramid Head myself. I cleansed 9 totems that match, 6 of those hex totems. It was pretty wild and strangely exhilarating, like the ultimate fire vs water battle or something. And we even finished all 5 gens, but I was the only one to make it out alive.

But yeah, hexes are in a really bad spot right now. My solution would be a radical rework (well not that radical, but still):

• - at the start of the match all totems are unlit and sustained by The Entity. For the first 1 or 2mins of the match all totems appear as dulls and can be cleansed, blessed or ignored by survivors as they please and can power their Inner Healings or Overzealous perks if they want, but they cant tamper with the Hexes themsefles, these have the full effect for the entrie duration.
• - once The Entities blessing runs out, all Hex totems are transfered onto any remaining dull totems, from the left to the right in your loadout. If the survivors cleansed 3 dull totems and you had 3 Hex totems, only the first 2 will spawn, while the third one will fizzle out.
• - this will give the killer always a guranteed 2min (or less ... this number is up to debate) of full totem usage, while not hindering survivors in any way with access to their totem related perks.
• - with this we would see a ressurgence of Hex totems and maybe some players would try to "do bones" during this first 2min and give the killer a rude awakening once this period is over. Or not, but we would surely see some more varried builds on both sides. Right now cleansing dulls is nearly always the suboptimal way to go and could potentially put the whole team in jeoapardy by taking away valuable Boon spots and making potential NOEDs harder to find.