Windows of Opportunity is an unfair advantage.

You don't want to use Zenshin tactics because you don't want to waste a perk slot. Consider that survivors who run WoO are wasting a perk slot for it. Like, literally, the perk exists in both survivors and killers. It's anything but unfair. It's just about willingness to use a perk slot for it.

Plus as others have said, Blindness is not such a rare status effect to go by.

not gonna lie windows carries bad survivors so hard (i know cuz i am one of those and i love the perk) but it's very clear when you chase survivors that barely look behind them in chase or their mindgames are not the best yet they always know where the next pallet is while you're chasing them so that sometimes you have to drop chase (especially on pallet dense maps or indoor maps) that the perk is carrying

example :- i saw a feng on badham that never looked behind her yet she kept going from a pallet to another insta dropping them (she must have dropped (6-10) pallets on her own plus the ones her teammates used and there were still pallets in the endgame on the map and it turns out she has windows

i don't want the perk nerfed cuz it was very bad before with the cooldown but it'd be nice if there was a solid blindness perk to counter it ( the closest thing to that is third seal and that's a hex)

Change it? Ok!

Lets add the effect to other survivors aswell if someone brings it. :)

WoO is the only reason blindness is a semi serious/useful effect vs a slugging tool exclusively.

Fair point.

I still feel that having general map knowledge negates the advantage gained by WoO - and it is hardly a perk that I would say is an unfair advantage.

Dont let the devs see this topic, they will 'ironwill it' by making it not work while exhausted and seeing half the items

Are you new to the game by any chance?

If you've got a big enough net, you can catch the whole ocean

"Nerf Windows of Opportunity", from the creators of "Securing my kill", "Don't care about someone fun" and "doing my objective".

But I know the solution for Windows of Opportunity: let's remove windows and pallets from every map. Interesting what next complain would be?

WoO does nothing to enhance a Survivor's looping ability. More info doesn't suddenly make a Survivor have better movement or mindgame skill. A bad survivor with WoO is still a bad survivor, they just know where to hold W to a tiny bit faster.

A decent looper with this perk would still be a decent looper without it.

That has nothing to do with zanshin if you have basic understanding of tiles, and is its "beginner" application. Due to how procedural generation works, it stops providing value after that information is learned.

Windows gives you much more and much more useful metadata as well. As myself and others have noted in the topic, it gives you plenty of extra info on which resources have been spent and which ones you can chain together without creating dead zones, which ones you can force the killer to break to reset bloodlust, which ones you can prolong for extended durations due to their configuration, etc. Since you are both the one leading the chase as well as having 3 other unknowns in the form of allies, that metadata alone creates a big disparity between their potential values. If nothing else, think about this: Why would you need to know a pallet is no longer at a jungle gym if you had to break it in the first place? You already witnessed its destruction, you don't need a perk to tell you its no longer there.

None of this is even getting into specifics, like using it to keep track of fake pallets from freddy, or other general uses like seeing pallets drop and knowing that someone is likely in chase at that location.

I really hope it doesn't get nerfed because it's a good solo perk. There's information you just don't have as solo which windows compensates for.

There's a few ways to beat it.

1. Blindness. There's quite a few slept on perks that do this and it's got other uses too.
2. Enduring/Spirit Fury.
3. Brutal Strength/Fire Up or other pallet negating perks/killers. You can get downs/hits with Brutal Strength that you otherwise wouldn't.

Realistically the problem lies in the fact some maps are just pallet factories. Going up against Windows on Gideon as the previous poster pointed out with an m1 killer is immensely frustrating. In this case if I'm not prepared I simply leave chase and harass someone else and try catch the window user off guard. If they return to where they once were, there's fewer pallets for them to use.

This

It's definitely one of the best perks in the game.

If you're good and the killer over commits, you can win the game in the first chase (pretty sure it's helped me frustrate some killers into DCing as well).

Great solo perk as well - Prevents bad pathing and allows you to properly lead the chase without worrying about dead zones, in most cases, that you'd otherwise be ignorant of without comms.

I never take it off.

People slept on it in my other topics, but low and behold, it became meta. This was verrrrry easy to see coming, but some people just like to be contrarian/ignore the actual reality of the game.

Run it if you can, then run the killer....if you can :P

Are you implying that because a perk has a perk that can impact its effect, that makes it bad? Or that other perks can give auras as well? I honestly have no idea what point you're trying to make. If you think I want to nerf Windows or something you're not even close, as I even promote its use to give players linear value with their growth as survivors. I'd much rather zanshin have more metadata it can be used with than have windows brought down to its level.

So i ask again, whats the problem with it?

Killers have an issue with WoO and survivors have an issue with Lethal Persuer. sounds like a wash to me