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My experience with DBD (camping - matchmaking)
Hello, I am playing DBD with a more experienced friend who got me into the game for over a month now, and there are two issues, and one of them is critical that wants me to stop playing.
Firstly, it's weird matchmaking - how is it possible to match killer with 3k hours vs a mix of survivors with 200h, 30h, and 40h in the game, these newbies are just running around scared, with no idea what to do, and they are basically free hooks without any contribution to higher rank games, is there even any matchmaking? Last month I was a red rank (barely) and still got matched with complete newbies.
Secondly, the critical thing for me that makes me seriously consider leaving the game. Last month I was having a blast, I climbed with my friend to red rank, because it was not really that hard to gain rank, but after this month's rank reset, I got face camped, camped, and tunneled in every single match, sometimes I give a good loop, so I understand the frustration, but sometimes even on 5 gens, I get targetted for no reason, hanged, and hit on the hook. So far I played like 30 games since reset, and in EVERY SINGLE GAME I GOT CAMPED (or my friend, then you trade hooks...). Sure... I always tell my friend to go get gens... there is nothing they can do, but... what fun is there for me? I play one or two games a day now.. and I think about leaving.. I might as well get hanged and go watch youtube, cause the killer always stays 8~16m from the hook and basically just trade kills and slug his way to win. It's not just killers with a higher amount of hours in this game, but it's also newbies - how is this a viable strategy taught to newbies... camping and tunneling seem to be the easiest way to get points... yeah.. but what of the enjoyment of players? I get the feelers to quit this game because of this, cause it's not fun...
What are your thoughts on matchmaking and camping?
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I wish people wouldn't tunnel and face camp however until bhvr finds a way to punish those tactics without the punishment being abusable I doubt we will see anything. As for matchmaking it could be better however its way better than the old matchmaking system.
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Oh matchmaking definitely is screwed, especially when the ratio of players for each role necessary for the game balance (4 : 1 survivors to killers) is not achieved, which is the case currently as a lot of people jumped ship on survivor and only play killer now.
Since there just aren't enough survivors, and killer queues take sometimes longer, especially the higher in mmr they go, the game just... gives them newbies. As a treat. To fill the needed spots to complete a lobby.
The game sees it as more important for queues to be fast rather than for the match-ups to be actually fair.
As for your first issue, another thing to know is that mmr has nothing to do with ranks. You can get to red rank through playing a lot, not necessarily through being thorough or extremely skilled in your games. (Though achieving it fast is a mark of dedication for sure.)
The game has its own way of judging who to pair you with, and it depends on how much you escape as survivor, or how much you kill as killer. So you might be red rank and still in a low-to-middle mmr if you don't escape a lot.
As for camping and tunneling, yeah. They're endemic to the game right now, and sure are not fun when you're on the receiving end. That's probably not a debate you want to get into here though.
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Yes, I played a lot last month, I was having so much fun :) However, this month, it's awful, as I said, every single game, new killers or experienced, me or my friend always experience being camped... sure I can start a gen before he dies, or go get grabbed to the hook... but where is fun in that? I am so annoyed :/ Then you just keep trading until the end of the game without any progress on gens...
So the way matchmaking works, it doesn't put the same ranks together? I just randomly grabs 4 people from all over the place?
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Ranks aren't a thing anymore.
What you see visually is your prestige level and the grade in color.
But grades aren't used for matchmaking but only for the monthly reward and therefore are completely reset at the 13th.
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Matchmaking used to use ranks to put people together, but since as you saw, you can get to rank one through just playing a lot and while still being very new, the old matchmaking system sometimes put together extremely sweaty player chained to meta... with newer players who weren't prepared to face that
(It still does it now, mind you, but in theory when the ratio of players is 4:1, the matchmaking is more fair)
How it works is like this :
When you're playing survivor, if you escape through the gate, your mmr increases. If you die, it decreases. If you're the last person to die, or if people DC'd earlier in the match, it decreases a bit less because the game knows it would have been hard to make a comeback and you had less chances to win. If you escape through the hatch, your mmr does not change.
When you're playing killer, for every survivor you kill, your mmr goes up, for every survivor that escapes through gate, your mmr goes down. Similarly, hatch is neutral.
When you're queueing up, the games looks at people who have on average similar mmr : if you don't escape often, you'll be put with people who don't escape often, and a killer who doesn't kill often.
Right now, the situation is a bit screwed since there are so many killer players that to make sure they don't wait too much, the game is a bit less strict on what "similar mmr" is. And sometimes, that means very new survivors go against very good killers.
So it's not random, but the current imbalance in the ratio makes it feel that way more often than not...
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There's been quite a few good suggestions to disable killer powers or make him weaker around the hook, or just disable hook grab, some of that could solve the issue with a bit of balancing and good thought about some system, but honestly, it seems like nobody really cares, mainly cause all the big streamers play killers and everyone listens only to big names out there
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Matchmaking is definitely all over the place. I have ~4k hours myself. I'll have killer games where I sweat to 4k, and then the next game I'll 4k at 5 gens with ease. There's no consistency at all. As I've said in other threads, it seems like the devs have goals about queue times that were handed down from higher up, and they're going to hit those queue time goals at all costs.
As far as camping and tunneling goes, I feel like those mechanics need to change or solo needs some baseline communication/information of some kind to play around it. It can't be neither one. Kindred isn't a good answer to camping because it becomes exponentially less useful for every survivor that has it up to a total of 4, and you're severely lacking perks as a team if all 4 have Kindred.
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Yeah but it's not really easy to get any points if the killer hooks you or your friend and just stands in front of you and - I guess that's the game now
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Yea MM isn't fair at this point...
But that same 3K hour Killer could've faced off against 9K hours SWF the match before... just saying
But camping at 5 Gens needs to not be a thing (it should still be a thing when 2-3 Gens are left)
Also it's more human nature... once we found out how to raise our MMR some of us have done whatever it took to get higher MMR
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