Facecamping and Tunneling are not legitimate ways to play and is Toxic to the game.

And all of these are valid points. I'm assuming you're in the 3k/4k as a win killer, 2k is a draw, and 1k is a loss? And my suggestions don't really impede on this if you REALLY want to play this way and prioritize "winning".

Personally, I play for fun and for Blood Points. The Blood Points are just to complete my roster of perks so I can try more weird and interesting combinations to have more fun.

In the end, i believe my suggestions just make it more fun in the long term for survivors without impeding the fun of Killers who just want to "win." If you're happy with just "winning," great, you're still going to be able to play as normal, you'll just get the Blood Point penalties. If you're unhappy with getting minimal Blood Points, well how is it fair that a Facecamped Survivor gets minimal Blood Points then?

If I genuinely wanted Tunneling/Camping removed from the game, then it'd just be easier to apply an increasing slow effect on killers when they stay near hook/hook the same Survivor multiple times within a short span of time and/or even increase ability/attacking cooldown.

I absolutely do believe my ideas will still work out because there isn't a hard penalty for distributing hooks evenly, I believe I mentioned a reward incentive for distributing hooks evenly though.

If we're talking about the penalty I suggested for a Survivor dying on hook before at least 2 hooks have been made on other survivors, which can be just 2 hooks on 1 other survivor, I don't think it will really affect healthy gameplay with this update especially considering I already had the caveat of the penalties for this and camping to stop once the game is at 2 gens or less to power doors.

When it comes to a survivor that's been hooked twice take protection hits, honestly I don't really see this becoming a huge issue because, chances are at that point you're already down to 2 gens or less. If not, then honestly the killer has time to get hooks elsewhere/down the Survivor and continue after the other target.

I don't believe anything I said even comes close to this. Both sides should have a right to play and have fun. If your sense of having fun is just getting 3k/4k, then maybe you should consider just playing bots? Because I've had several games as Killer where I'd catch all 4 survivors in a very unfortunate place, down all 4 of them, then bring back the last one to pick up their friends so we can have a soft reset and actually have fun. Why? Because just instantly downing everyone and getting 4 kills isn't fun to me. The chasing, the mindgaming, the time management is what I find fun about the game.

If I was to throw your phrasing back at you, it'd be something along the lines of "So the Killer has the right to get 4k and the Survivor has the duty to just hang there on the hook? You're kidding, right?"

It also becomes very apparent that people haven't fully read nor understood the opening post when they say something like this because a killer CAN still do all this and be minimally affected if they don't care about Blood Points or Killer Stages (whether it be because they're already iridescent 1 or they just don't care), in which case most of the things I suggested really only affect the payout for these activities.

Additionally, a Killer should absolutely not get the same number of blood points as the best performing Survivors of a game if all they do is grab a Survivor, throw them on a hook, then sit there. At a certain point there's very little that Survivor can do if their team now decides to just concentrate on Generators because they realize the Killer is just camping. So in that case, the killer would get to "win", but pay out some of their blood points to the survivor for unsportsmanlike conduct and that's it.

No worries, I definitely used Hyperbole in the title to get people's attention. I suppose the point I'm trying to get across is that early game facecamping and tunneling are pushing people away from playing Survivor.

I still believe that Facecamping and Tunneling and relatively toxic and sort of needs to be addressed because while it might not be personal or anything, after all having someone on hook to bait out other survivors and/or removing 1 survivor means less things that can be accomplished at once by the Survivors, in the end it's still removing a player from the game and I feel like it's bad manners when this is done early game and on purpose.

Honestly while my suggestions are mainly based around the Emblem system and Blood Points and I certainly believe the Emblem system should be tweaked, I would like to see a lot more game-impacting mechanics that encourage healthy behavior. Base kit BT honestly was a good decision IMO in fact, I wish they didn't reduce the time down to 5 seconds because that doesn't do much to deter many killers from Tunneling. In fact, most killer might just take the BT hit then pursue for the down. I also like the idea of base kit UB and would honestly like to see a base kit DS (especially considering the nerf down to 3 seconds) and even a base kit Reassurance.

On the other hand, I'd also like to see more base kit buffs for killers to shore up their issues. For example, maybe something like a base-kit Pop/Surveillance where whenever you hook a Survivor with the least number of hooks/tied for the least number of hooks, you get a token. For each token you have, all generators change hues to show their progression for 3 seconds. Additionally, the next time you kick a generator, that generator regresses 7% per token. The number of tokens resets if you hook a Survivor other than one with the least number of hooks/tied for the least number of hooks. Or built-in automatic Generator regression where a Generator that is untouched begins to regress at 20% of the normal rate which builds up to 100% regression over the next 15 Seconds.

The only issue with killer base kit changes is that the variance between effectiveness of killers is much higher than Survivors, but really the only issues I see that might pop up with changes like these is just to the strength of already oppressive killers, namely Nurse. In the end though, trust me when I say that for killers Generators seem as though they just don't pop at all or they just pop too fast and something to combat that a bit would be nice and would hopefully help with the issue of Killers feeling like they may need to camp/tunnel.