Why playing with Piece or Tombstone makes you a criminal?
I have have tried to do Evil Incarnate(4k mori with With IW3) and every time i try, survivors treat me like i did something terrible. They will ANYTHING to deny 4th kill, especially lockers or simply being downed, why it this still a thing?!
I just don't get it.
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Add-on design.
Tombstone, by nature, is used for survivors who are not yet hung, found later, rather than survivors found early.
Survivors who have not made any mistakes up to that point and think they can continue the game even after being hooked, but are frustrated because they are suddenly declared out of the game.
To summarize, it is because he will die without a hook.
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The problem here is that the achievement asks players to do something that the opposition can make literally impossible if they want to, and they will, because it's what will make them survive.
Left For Dead achievement has a similar problem and these two achievements are why i do not recommend anyone to go for 100% achievements in this game unless they already have them.
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But what are they to lose? They won't lose much on points + easy out of the game. Especially now when BP is super easy to earn.
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So, why resist and give a killer what he needs to not bother anyone else in a future?
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Remember, basically, survivors are trying to escape. If you play just for blood points, you will have a lot of really bad games, regardless of whether you win or lose.
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Only a problem for me when I use a BP offering and it gets stolen away because I die early by just being hit once because someone else let him stalk
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And the killer uses rare and expensive items just to try. It's not like BPs is a problem now.
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BP is still a problem. Survivors get barely any BP basekit.
Also rare addons are not that rare.
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Back then - yes, but now there is not much to lose, at all. BP is very easy to get, even without offering, Items come and go.
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Sole survivor perk is big help for left dead achiement but I got it anyway without it when Onryo farmed with me and second last survivor but decided to kill him before I did last gen. For myers achiement you have to hope the survivors are potatoes as survivors who know what you are doing will just hide in locker hours.
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Really??? I mean if you push to p100, yea. But is it worth wasting BOTH sides time just to get extra 2-3k?
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My question is who cares? The real problem these days is people getting all up in their feelings for nothing acting like you should show manners in the game. I'm not sure how but somehow this horror slasher game has drawn in a gigantic pool of crybabies on both sides who feel like they're the best to ever play the game and if they have even the slightest amount of issue with something the first defense is to blame everyone but themselves and then try to tell the other side how they're wrong like they should even care in the first place.
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When those 2-3k also imply lowering my MMR and getting more potato team mates, yes it is worth. Solo q is already rough enough.
Also escape being 5k + offering making it 10k, yes it is worth.
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Oh, and as a prerequisite, I would add that playing with the Tombstone is not a crime.
As for the 4th survivor who plays just to avoid giving you an achievement, surely the achievement itself will be changed in the near future.
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I mean yes, only if it wasn't being countered by just hiding in a locker or laying on the ground. If i could mori downed, then yes, do your best.
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You have an add on that instantly eliminates them from the game what do you expect? Are they supposed to just give up because you popped t3? An add on that ignores hook states all together deserves that kinda restriction, it's like having a instant escape button as a survivor once I completed a gen by myself, the point I was making though was referring to your title, you shouldn't care if they get upset over tombstone and treat you like a criminal but you also shouldn't be upset for them not lining up single file to just let you get the EW3 trophy
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No, i mean the lamest counter is the thing. I don't mind you looping me and play stealth, not just rushing in a locker.
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It's fair though when you can instantly eliminate someone you've had zero interaction with before that, if it worked like ghostfaces stalk I'd agree with you more because then they did it to themselves but the fact you can have two idiots feed you on purpose and gain the ability to insta kill everyone needs a stupid restriction like a locker otherwise it would be a free win because you're good at staring at people on open maps with very little to hide
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Not exactly, you can get a single kill from a piece + stalk rate, but thing is you can't iw3 more than 4 times, if suvivors hide in lockers or... just loop main, you are screwd.
With a tombstone + tuft, you have to stalk 3 survivors dry. If your team allowed to be stalked that much, you should be dead anyway.
There is counters within his kit, but just rushing a locker is somehow fair. COOL.
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Oh I know there were times I saw 4 cakes pop up when I played Killer so I went into farming mode.....the Survivors literally Gen Rushed and escaped as fast as they could....I even let them get someone off hook and nodded to them letting them know I was in farm mode.....they called me a Trash Killer and play another game....when I said I went into farm mode because of their cakes they said...we had nothing better to use.....
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This is the weirdest idea. You want the survivors to just "give you what you need" because you chose to go for a difficult achievement and used iri addons? Why should they do that??
Most players want to actually play the game -- they'll use whatever advantages/counters they have at their disposal to get the best possible results.
And why do you think they'll care whether you will "bother anyone else" in future matches? You're the one who chose to play those addons against them in that particular match. They will probably never play against you again. And they don't know if you run that build often just for fun, etc.
Anyways, either keep trying until you get it or stop worrying about it. But don't expect the other team to just give you the achievement. That's silly.
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Your title mentions Piece and Tombstone. Putting aside the 4-mori achievement, do YOU think it's fun as a survivor to be insta-killed out of the game the first time you see the killer (quite possibly without even knowing they have a Tombstone)? When you have one of the Tombstone addons pained with J. Myers Memorial, it's really not that hard in most matches to get your stalk to 99%, then get right next to someone, pop Tier III and kill them before they even know what happened.
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I hop in a locker in chase against tier 3 Myers until I know for sure they don't have Tombstone. Zero reason to take a tier 3 hit until you know for sure. Why extend a chase for 10 seconds on a coin flip of instantly dying? That's just having game sense.
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So because you can see someone for a period of time you think you deserve free kills with no counterplay to stop it? That's absurd , most of these maps are open to see for a good distance that's one of the biggest complaints by people who main stealth killers because they feel like there's only a few maps they get to use that part of the kit on, Michael is the only exception to this because wide open maps benefit him at the same time with the difference in his stalk mechanic, but like I said at the very beginning it's all part of the game I'll take it however they change it but everything in this game has a counter and that should stay that way
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What if- and this is a big if by the way since nothing's changed with him aside from actually getting a buff to the iri tombstone- Just what if you're granted the ability to kill if the survivor you attempt it on has been hooked once?
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Because the addons aren't healthy for the direction BHVR has been pushing DBD towards.
No one complains about Sadako having a mori power. No one complains about Pyramid Head having a mori power. No one complains about pig having a mori power. Despite those being basekit features of their kit, they are balanced around the fact they require the killer to at least down the survivor as well as complete other conditions.
Myers is a problem because there's no condition the survivors have to prevent being mori'd and it completely bypasses health states so it doesn't matter if Myers has never chased you.
Myers is in need of adjustments. His addon pool is awful since he suffers from old addon design of addons being direct upgrades of the previous rarity. His basekit is out of date as a killer with a limit to how much they can use their power just doesn't make sense compared to killers like Oni who have no real limit and a much more threatening power. I wouldn't even mind if Myers got the ability to Mori people in T3 as a basekit thing if there some sort of play around it. Because it's a cool flavor thing that just sucks to play against.
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No one wants to be eliminated early from a match. Lockers and ensuring a down is literally just a way to stay in the game when the Myers is running that.
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All true. But the this achievement is notorious for being absolutely hell to get, as its 100% in the survivors hands.
If the match is already a lost one, why spit in the killers soup, just to be spiteful and subjugate yet another group of survivor's toc this? Every Myers who gets it is one less sweaty Myers out of the system.
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Not a criminal, just entitled to free kills player
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If I see the Myers has already killed someone and still is in Tier III (meaning Tuft is in play as well) I won't go for an exit gate or hatch and I won't hide in lockers. If it's both Iris I know they're going for the achievement.
If it's just Tombstone piece I'll play extra stealthy and use lockers. My assumption is that they're just using Tombstone piece as a normal part of game play.
The issue, as mentioned above, is it's terrible BP and, most likely, a depip if you're still pipping up. It's harder for survivors than letting survivors get Left For Dead is for Killer, which I also do as Killer, as Left For Dead entails I've already killed three survivors so, at worst, I'm only getting a pip instead of double pip and I still have a lot of BP.
Maybe you'll have better luck on Halloween? I was lucky enough to get it last year on Halloween on my second try. It's thematic so people might be less reluctant to have it happen then.
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It makes a joke character into a threat and subverts expectation of an easy game.
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Joke's on you I run both iris just for fun :)
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I got it first try lmao. But the survivors were being bitshes. In the end I caught 3 and then pretended like I was giving last one exit gate then murked them
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