Stop. Camping. Seriously, It's Boring.

Down a survivor at 5 Gens left: killers camp because survivors will not able to complete Gens before the camped one dies.

Down a survivors at 2 Gens left: killers camp because survivors are doing Gen effectively.

Down a survivors when Gates powered: killers camp because there is nothing else to do.

Camping is efficient in every situation

When did I say I want genrushing to exist?

You are requesting that killers not complete their objective a certain way. Can I not do the same of survivors? If not, why not?

On a side note, you've said that camping is not an intended mechanic because there's nothing in the game that buffs/supports it. That's pretty much exactly the sole purpose of Insidious and Monstrous Shrine.

This community reminds me of the shooter communities of old complaining incessantly about spawn camping. People trying to gatekeep what constitutes valid playstyles will always amuse me, because it's a pointless endeavor.

Care to explain Insidious for me?

By your logic then doing gens is an exploit because there are perks designed to counter gen progress and there are definitely more than two gen regression/blocking perks.

You can punish the camping by just doing gens. Or by coordinating the rescue. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Killers camp because survivors let them get away with it. They stop doing gens and inch to the hook, playing footsie with the killer, never coordinating and now an entire hook state is gone and the survivors have nothing to show for it. I've watched this happen.

If I'm killer and I hook someone and I hear one or two survivors running around, why WOULDN'T I stick around and capitalize on that? That's more survivors not doing gens while someone is on hook. Now I am securing hooks states and slwoing gen progression, all without having to cover the entire map.

When I am survivor, if the killer doesn't seem inclined to leave a hook, that's fine. I'll go do gens. Maybe heal someone. And if I'm being camped, I'm not mad at the killer. I'm mad at all the survivors I can see not doing the objective because they want to hook bomb me, practically doing the killer's job for them.

If you're solo queue, run Kindred. Hands down, the best way to deal with camping. Run Reassurance, too, even. Get close, if the killer won't chase, stop the hook timer for a bit, and go do gens. Or if another survivor is nearby, try to time a save instead of throwing yourselves against the killer one at a time like a bad action movie fight sequence. The camped survivor isn't having much fun, probably, but at the very least, if they are willing to not rage quit, then use the time they are buying you wisely.

tl;dr: Camping isn't the problem. Survivors wasting time is.

I do have a problem of understanding the plan Meg trying to explain

So, tell me again... What is the purpose of this perk?

What playstyle is it ment for?

Thank you :)

Don't mind me i'll be pinning this in my future post. Lol when killers complain about 90 sec gen speed and basekit STBFL.

It's not after the first 2 times

did you see what i posted at least? I doubt it since in the video that i've posted those weren't 90 seconds... without mention that the 2 stacks of stbfl are worthless if the maps are so much safe that you can easily never being hitted once... bring arguments with some solid points instead of saying dumb things... there are already too many people that talk without knowing how things work...

Which isn't basekit or free also using up 3/4th perk slot that a survivor could use for survival perks, what a massive "buff" lol talk about copium

Its not my fault you're getting outskilled by a toolbox, can't even win a chase against a stake out user lol

Killers can camp hooks, survivor can camp generators and palettes. So what is your problem? Play the game. This season I played 33 matches as survivor and met 1 (in words one) killer that camped. Last season I played 131 matches as survivor and met 5 (five) camping killers. You are making a fuss about something that is rare in the range of 3-4% of all my matches.

Survivors camping pallets is no where near efficient compared to killers camping hooks and you know that. Camping generators also make no sense. I’m assuming your just saying “‘X’ can camp random in game object so ‘X’ can do it too.” to make up for your lack of an actual argument.

Also, you and I both know you didn’t play 131 matches and only came across 5 camping killers. Camping and tunneling has had a massive spike since the DH changes and the chance of you not coming across a killer that wasn’t camping in anything less than 20 of those 131 games is nearing 0. Be real.

First of all, there is no true way to prevent killers from camping. Killers control the flow of the game and how the survivors play which is why they’re called the power role. Anyways, even if camping could be done with perks, there is only 2 survivor perks that can in someway make camping slightly less efficient and yet they only prolong the hook timer.

And if you somehow do manage to unhook a survivor against a camping killer, you, assuming your the unhooker, needs to pray that you’ll make it somewhere safe since 22 out of the 29 playable killers have some sort of mobility, movement speed penalty, ranged attack, or instadowns in their base kit and are more than likely gonna be in the majority of your matches.

Oh and not to mention trying to effectively “counter” camping as a solo queue player. Don’t even get me started on killers tunneling right after unhooks too.

Yeah. The most effective counterplay would be to just all agree to suicide on hook and beef up camper kill rates to over 90% and hope to God BHVR notices. It's, essentially, the most optimal strategy that takes 0 consideration for the opposing side's fun.

Funny, fighting fire with fire.