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How is Tampered Timer/Crate of Gears a thing?

I've run into it a few times since Pig box logic was updated, and I can't imagine this was playtested at all. Do the devs genuinely thing it's ok for a player to die to pure, 100% RNG? There isn't enough time to search even 4 out of 5 boxes on some maps if you're interrupted at all, let alone 5 out 5.

It feels awful on the survivor end to hold the killer to 2 total hooks through 3 gens and then have the game completely fall apart because two survivors needed 4 searches on a large map with Crate of Gears/Tampered Timer. The killer did absolutely nothing skillful to make that happen. The game rolled some dice in the background and the add ons did the work. It's a PVP game.

Comments

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,513

    the whole point of the traps is to slowdown the game and it does that by self-deterrence. that is why those add-on are powerful for pig. they create self-deterrence for poping generators in fear of doubt that the survivor gets the trap off. that is entire objective of her ability. its anti-gen rush power with mori capacity.

    Pig is another one of those killer that is somewhat balanced around SWF and the survivor players understanding how her power works. She is not difficult to counter but survivors are not used to changing their gameplay loop in regards to doing generators. you have pop generators in bursts when playing against pig.

    I think people that think pig is worst killer in the game do not understand how her power works and just look at pig as m1 killer with bad stealth/ambush dash. I don't think they understand how strong those reverse bear traps are in term of slowdown and self-deterrence. I have had my share experiences of getting mori by those traps and I do not like playing against pig for that reason because of dumb teammates tend to put you into bad situations where you have close-calls in getting mori'd.

  • Marik1987
    Marik1987 Member Posts: 1,700
    edited October 2022

    Pig is, with the last buff for the RNG, at least C-Tier now.

    But: her traps are easily countered. Just seach 1-2 boxes before the trap is active (SWF). Most of the time however the time is enough to get rid of it, even with Tampered. If not, the killer did good job in interrupting tbh.

    If u play solo, it can become a bit annoying tbh.

  • not_requested49
    not_requested49 Member Posts: 1,981

    Pig is farrr from the worst killer, idk who would think that, must not have seen Freddy

  • hastarkis
    hastarkis Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 580

    One time we lost the game even without those addons. It was a random team and one teammate poped a gen while one was on hook (with a trap), one were injured (with a trap) and one were downed after bad unhook attempt (with a trap). And after that he finished and popped another one (so didn't get agro to get killer busy and let at least some of us an easier time getting rid of traps). I mean, yeah, it wasn't a good game for us to begin with but in the end of the day we could perform much better if he'd left those gens 99'd for a while.

    My point is you have to play around Pig's power. The whole team have to play around and make right desicions. It's like Michael: one irresponsible feed-er and the whole team suddenly are screwed.

  • Gandor
    Gandor Member Posts: 4,378

    You are guaranteed to get the trap away with at most 4 traps. I agree that it is bad feeling to have bad teammate (that activates the trap on your head), but that's not killer's fault. It's the same thing like some survivor cleansing against plague. The fault is at survivor and killer should not suffer nerfs for it.

    The boxes are now OK. I mean - it would be nice if there was something more to be done to help tunneled survivor with active trap, but. Considering all her powers. I don't think I want to nerf pig any more then she already is.

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,965

    Pig is a bit like Pinhead. She destroys SoloQ but can be completely dismantled by SWFs.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,632

    So the counter is just to play SWF. Yeah, makes sense...

    Did you even read your post once you published it? Unless you are in a 4 man SWF, you will not have full control over a Gen being done while you have a trap on your head (or even worse - are on the Hook after getting it). And the smaller the party, the less control you will have.

    Tampered Timer should not be a thing. It was nerfed, but it should have been reworked completely. (In general, I dislike that there is so much focus on the RBTs, there should be more focus on her Stealth and Dash instead, because those are the actual fun parts of her).