What's with this matchmaking? (with examples)
This is pretty standard for my Survivor games. I am at Iri level. Escape a good amount of the time, often with not so great teammates. Look at the Prestiges.
I rarely play Killer. As you can see I am Ash rank. I have maybe played 1 or 2 game as Wesker. Here is what I get regardless of Killer.
Again, this is pretty standard. Prestiges over 10 when I rarely play Killer. Maybe 1 or 2 Prestige Survivors as a Survivor. This happens almost every single time. Sure you can point to examples where you ran into a level 20 potato, but if you get a Survivor to level 10 to you have a lot of experience and access to perks. I really don't think I am the only one who is running into this.
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Yeah pretty much my experience too. Matched with extremely sweaty survivors as killer, but when I play solo, I get total newbs as teammates and get matched against 5k hour streamers like one pump willie
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Prestige is no reflection of skill level. While yes, a high prestige indicates a lot of playtime. A player also could have a daily to do something with a certain char and not their main. So that char is bound to have a low prestige lvl.
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Exactly the same for me too. I'm almost positive that this matchmaking system just throws anyone together, no matter their experience level. It makes this whole "MMR" idea they keep pushing completely pointless.
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Que times got so bad that they further loosened MMR restrictions to the point where there is functionally no matchmaking.
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As killer I have games with basically the entire skill spectrum. Everyone from Megheads to streamers who have 2K hours in the game.
One time in solo q I got matched against a prestige 93 plague. Not an indicator of skill, I know, but they clearly had more hours than the entire lobby combined. My survivor MMR cannot possibly be any higher than the baseline and that killer has to have high MMR.
I'm starting to think that MM becomes looser depending on how long queue times are.
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Prestige, Grade, and hours played do not influence matchmaking. Seeing as there's no mechanical benefit to going past p3 plenty of people may instead be spending bp across multiple survivors and killers. Likewise if you dump all your bp into one character you can get to pretty high prestige without much hours played (Most extreme example of high prestige low hours in my solo queue games was a p20 with 400 hours)
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MMR seems all over the place, on my 3rd game as pyramidhead i got matched against a p60 with 3xp12 roughly, as survivor i often go from a game with 3 p20 teammates to a game with 3 p0's who can't hit a single skill check
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I feel like you whine too much. Though that could be because you're automatically saying low prestige players are useless which pisses me off.
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I'm an Iri survivor, and the only two prestiges I have are Jill and Mikaela, because I wanted their prestige outfits. I did this before the prestige changes. I haven't bothered playing any of the newer survivors after Mikaela, because nothing there really interests me. So yea, trying to link prestige and survivor grade means absolutely nothing.
To add, I'm also an Iri killer, and I never bothered prestiging my killers before the changes. There was no reason to, other than the bloody cosmetics. Back then, I only cared about perks, addons, and offerings. So yea, I'm not following the logic of linking Surv/Killer grade to prestige.
Lastly, your grade really doesn't mean much either. Anyone can reach Iri 1, on both sides, if they just play the game. It's a little harder on survivor, but not much. You are getting those teammates because MMR believes that is where you belong. If you keep having "bad games", it may be time to evaluate yourself?
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I'm getting something like this
Btw, prestige does mean how good player, no matter what other say, it reflects how long a person has been playing and how well (s)he understands what needs to be done in general
To sum up: I win most trials if I play with players with good prestige, while playing with low - I die a lot, due to they're do a lot of #########
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Playing with low prestige players who do not take at least shity gray item is dangerous for your win rate (If you're playing for MMR)
A gray first-aid kit makes it possible to heal once - which means your teammate won't cross for the entire map opening all the chests or chasing other teammates to heal him/her
A gray toolbox at least helps to repair a gen faster
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One more thing, a prestige number has a "feature", it may be different in lobby and after a trial, seems like number stuck for player slot, when a player left a lobby
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I just started playing killer since yesterday I bought the Artist. Today was my try-out day. I've only played 4 games with her and in one game there were 2 level 10 prestiges. I only had two perk slots unlocked. I'm also Ash IV on killer and will be playing whenever there is killer incentive to learn it a bit better. I though I'd be matched against people who are closer to my skill level lol.
And I also played a lot of survivor today and the games were full of bad decisions, both from me and my teammates. And it's pretty common to get at least one newbie on my team when I'm playing solo.
I don't understand this either, there probably is no matchmaking. It's the only way this makes sense.
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It does. BHVR has provided this info on a few different occasions. The longer the queue time the further up/down the MMR spectrum away from you the game hunts for people to fill the lobby. If you reach the full five minute queue wait limit the game's pulled people from the furthest reaches it's set to go to put a lobby together with you, and the MMR ranks can be wildly off from yours.
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Ditto. My only guess is that killer really is "easier than survivor" in the sense that at mid and low levels of play meh killers will usually outclass meh survivors so raising to higher MMR as killer is sadly too easy. I wish both of the MMRs sort of anchored each other? I feel like if I had a clone of me playing killer on a clone of my account I would never face myself because my survivor MMR seems to be a lot lower than my killer MMR. Which is a bummer because by my estimation if I faced 4 clones of myself as killer I'd lose about half the time.
My killer matches are definitely a more consistent challenge than my survivor matches.
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Seriously. Why do I not get the potatoes I get teamed with as Killer? When I am Killer I usually get the other Survivors doing gens while I am in chase with one. In SoloQ they are mostly Safe Caring, hiding in a locker, crouching for no reason, and going down 3 seconds after the chase starts.
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Two days ago I played my very first four games with Trickster and got 4-man SWFs with high prestiges in every single game. The highest one was P99. They completely stomped me ofc. I was really confused about that matchmaking.
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It do be like that. I was playing the day before and I had like 3 afk (maybe more) teammates, one for every match. Like I'd see them stand still doing nothing when I got hooked. Or they had crows on their head. Did their mouse die? I don't get this.
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