Was this holding the game "hostage"
Last gen done and gates at 99%. One survivor ran into a corner and I blocked them in. I had no choice, they were on their first hook and a gate was like 10 feet away with a hook even further. If I did literally anything but sit there they all 4 would have gotten out.
10 minutes later the other 3 finally open the exit gate, and then blamed ME for holding the game hostage. Um hello, you all swarmed me and did literally nothing for those 10 minutes. THEY held the game hostage, THEY are the ones who refused to let the game end, THEY are the ones who left their teammate there for 10 minutes when we ALL could have moved on in less than 3.
Like what did they want me to do, fiddle with myself in a corner while they all teabagged at the gates? Nah, their teammate messed up and they drug the game out WAY longer than necessary.
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In my opinion no. The game could have ended once the other three decided to leave.
technically I think it would be classified as holding hostage since you prevented one player from being able to play the game normally. Seems like that is how I saw a mod explain it because I silently didn’t agree and it stick with me.
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That's an interesting question. They're okay with blocking in endgame collapse because the timer puts a hard limit on how long the bodyblock lasts, but in this case, there was no timer. The player being trapped in that corner can't control what his teammates will do and has no power to leave the match (and keep their points) at all. And you can't really accuse the teammates of holding the match hostage when you were the one driving the car there, so to speak.
I'm inclined to say it counts as holding a player hostage, even if it's strategic, but you'd have to ask a mod to know for sure.
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I wouldn't consider it taking the game hostage, no, but I know there are rules around bodyblocking. I'm not overly familiar with them tbh
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I'm pretty sure because you blocked him into a corner and forcing that survivor into a position of being unable to do anything, yes, it can be considered taking them hostage. The other three survivors can end the game for sure, but that player was outright denied the ability to do anything.
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What's worse is when a fellow teammate blocks you. I was doing gens and got hit. I ran to a safe spot to heal and next I know my fellow teammate pointed me out to the killer in the corner and he knocked me down only for said teammate to tbag me. It was uncalled for since I was contributing and did nothing to anyone. Sometimes survivors make the best killers.
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If the gates had been opened then no, but I believe since they as the player can't progress themselves it would be counted.
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It's scummy yeah but it shouldn't count if there's literally no other choice. Honestly if I blocked them in before the last gen got done I wouldn't even posted this, but there was a 99% gate just on the other side of a window, bada boom here we are. Plus I say they played plenty given they walked away with more points than what I got.
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Based on this comment, I would say there is a solid chance the answer is yes you probably were. But at least the same can be said for the other three survivors too.
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Fair, but they had also been given the chance to play proper just like everyone else, hell they walked away with more points then I did. They did gens, they got chased, hooked, just like the other 3. It's only when that last gen popped and a gate was being opened right next to us that I switched gears blocking them into the corner they accidentally ran into.
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Figures. Personally I'd see what I did as way worse if it was earlier in the game, or if no one else was there to make them game end. But it is good knowing that the other 3 survivors were just as scummy.
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While I think it's completely clear that if you did it earlier (like at 3 gens remaining or something) "to kill them with EGC" it should be considered taking that survivor hostage, a form of griefing and absolutely "undesirable gameplay" that should be punished with suspensions, in your situation it's the awkward situation where neither side is really doing anything wrong in keeping the match going, you're trying to kill and they're trying to survive as opening the gates is straight up killing the blocked survivor. Basically an old-school hatch standoff where it's a battle of stubbornness.
I have seen BHVR people say it's only okay if done during EGC or "shortly before EGC begins", whatever that means exactly. Honestly no clue what's the actual answer and you'll probably only get it from a mod or something.
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You... could've slugged the one survivor then go after the others
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Body blocking is reportable from what i know. so i would say yes?
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Like.. what's the reasoning, they got to play the game for 10 minutes so you get to block them for 10 minutes?
There's arguments to be made, but I really don't think this one's it.
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Holding game hostage technically means you create a situation where the game cannot progress to its end and people need to dc to get out of that trial,,The way it's described i'd say no since the other 3 can just open gates and start the egc,,is it fun for the survivor held in that corner till collapse kills them ? Surely no but at the end of the game egc kills them anyway ,,
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Sounds like a gray scenario. My gut says the killer player was holding the game hostage. I won’t betray my gut here.
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Yeah, the fact that the gates were 99% and there were 3 other survivors around is why I say no to hostage taking. One of the survivors only has to open the gate and the game counts down to an end. Were the gate 99% and that blocked survivor was the *only* survivor, then yes it'd be taking the game hostage.
Having said all that, that survivor could still report you for bodyblocking i believe. Since it was affecting their personal ability to progress/play the game. Might possibly fall under griefing?
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Did I want to block them for 10 minutes? ######### no, that was the choice of the other 3 survivors. I would have been happy with them opening the gate after 1 minute because that meant I would get to move on to a properly fair match. They dragged the game out, not me.
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No, seriously. I'm still confused by the reasoning.
And.. I don't think you can park the dumpy in front of the survivor specifically to bodyblock them and then claim you had nothing to do with the game dragging out. You're at the very least the starting point.
I mean, you were clearly banking on everyone else just leaving. They want their friend out, obviously, so they want to see if you'll give up. It's at least a 50/50 fault, but 100% bodyblocking.
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Got it, so I was supposed to know that the 3 survivors were gonna sit with me instead of opening the gate that was 5 ft away. Someone get me a floating chair and a school that's also a mansion because I need to be Charles ######### Xavier.
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In this situation? I'd suppose not.
Even though by dev definition you would have taken the game hostage, let's be real. The survivors should have opened the gates and left that survivor for dead.
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I mean, you gave up. You decided to use a mechanic designed to prevent matches dragging out to secure 1 kill by preventing another person from having any agency in any outcome. At that point you had already lost and I'm curious what that 1 kill would get you?
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The basic answer is yes, this is holding the game hostage and griefing.
Body blocking a survivor in the corner prior to EGC starting is 100% against game rules, it's irrespective of other survivors being alive, you are griefing the survivor that you have blocked - they can do nothing to progress the game. There is no question that the responsibility for this situation falls directly on the person who is breaking the game rules, which in this case is you as you admit to body blocking this player into a corner.
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