Myers.
Can you revert all of his nerfs. He's rubbish now. Please give him UNLIMITED stalking range, no cap and let him stalk more than 1 people at once. Revert the nerfs to his addons and give him faster base stalking. It's not fair. Such a cool killer got killed.
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@Poweas said:
Can you revert all of his nerfs. He's rubbish now. Please give him UNLIMITED stalking range and let him stalk more than 1 people at once. Revert the nerfs to his addons and give him faster base stalking. It's not fair. Such a cool killer got killed.I main him...seems fine to me. Those nerfs sound reasonable considering if I had unlimited stalk range then myers would be easily top tier. In most peoples eyes he is still top tier anyways so...
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@FireHazard said:
@Poweas said:
Can you revert all of his nerfs. He's rubbish now. Please give him UNLIMITED stalking range and let him stalk more than 1 people at once. Revert the nerfs to his addons and give him faster base stalking. It's not fair. Such a cool killer got killed.I main him...seems fine to me. Those nerfs sound reasonable considering if I had unlimited stalk range then myers would be easily top tier. In most peoples eyes he is still top tier anyways so...
Yeah but he was level with Billy, that was great. It's not fair that he's now a mere shadow of his former glory. He should be as good as he used to be, since he was still balanced cause u can loop him. He wastes far too much time stalking as it is right now, at least back then he was more efficient.
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Just a side note, but I always wondered, why is it that the licensed killers are all lower tiers, and only the original ones make it to the top.
Not saying I suspect some sinister, hidden agenda from the devs. But still, odd.0 -
@George_Soros said:
Just a side note, but I always wondered, why is it that the licensed killers are all lower tiers, and only the original ones make it to the top.Not saying I suspect some sinister, hidden agenda from the devs. But still, odd.
Mhm. I see a pattern.
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@Thaznar said:
@FireHazard said:
@Poweas said:
Can you revert all of his nerfs. He's rubbish now. Please give him UNLIMITED stalking range and let him stalk more than 1 people at once. Revert the nerfs to his addons and give him faster base stalking. It's not fair. Such a cool killer got killed.I main him...seems fine to me. Those nerfs sound reasonable considering if I had unlimited stalk range then myers would be easily top tier. In most peoples eyes he is still top tier anyways so...
He's sadly very mediocre killer and cannot comepete with the genrush meta which is being pushed by the devs. He used to be good killer but all the nerfs were too harmful for him. Now his stalking is busted because of the engine update and he can be looped into oblivion. Sadly devs are too derpy to ackonwledge they screwed up and he will remain as he is.
Balance? Nah... Gen rush? YES!
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Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc.
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I suppose the main deal here is that when you crate a licensed character, you are sticking to specific characteristics from whatever universe those characters came from. For instance, you cant have Freddy without Dream World, or Leatherface without a chainsaw. Pig is definitely the one with the biggest creativity freedom, and she is either the best or second best out of all licensed ones.George_Soros said:Just a side note, but I always wondered, why is it that the licensed killers are all lower tiers, and only the original ones make it to the top.
Not saying I suspect some sinister, hidden agenda from the devs. But still, odd.
There is also the fact that licensed characters are designed to draw in new people. They make them special and fun, and focus on that aspect, rather than making them effective. Its the thought process they also go with original characters, but its most likely amplified for licensed ones.
We can also look at each case individually:
+ Myers: First licensed DLC. They had to make a good impression. Not to mention its the most known horror franchise out of all, other than Friday the 13th.
+ Leatherface: Rushed DLC because time constraints. Ended up creating a low tier Killer from the start. Not to mention the least popular franchise.
+ Freddy: Decent at the start, but turned into low tier because of the review bombs and unnecessary QQ. At least they promised this would never happen again.
+ Pig: The second most popular franchise, maybe? (Unless Nightmare on Elm Street has a bigger fanbase) A decent Killer through its existence and recently getting better. We can all appreciate how good this DLC was in terms of new content.0 -
@Thaznar said:
@FireHazard said:
@Thaznar said:
@FireHazard said:
@Poweas said:
Can you revert all of his nerfs. He's rubbish now. Please give him UNLIMITED stalking range and let him stalk more than 1 people at once. Revert the nerfs to his addons and give him faster base stalking. It's not fair. Such a cool killer got killed.I main him...seems fine to me. Those nerfs sound reasonable considering if I had unlimited stalk range then myers would be easily top tier. In most peoples eyes he is still top tier anyways so...
He's sadly very mediocre killer and cannot comepete with the genrush meta which is being pushed by the devs. He used to be good killer but all the nerfs were too harmful for him. Now his stalking is busted because of the engine update and he can be looped into oblivion. Sadly devs are too derpy to ackonwledge they screwed up and he will remain as he is.
Balance? Nah... Gen rush? YES!
Yeah, because 4 min games are fun for everyone
And this is why Legion exists.
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BRING BACK TIER 1 BLOODLUST!!!!!2
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@George_Soros said:
Just a side note, but I always wondered, why is it that the licensed killers are all lower tiers, and only the original ones make it to the top.Not saying I suspect some sinister, hidden agenda from the devs. But still, odd.
I don't think Mikey is low tier, to me he's the most balanced killer in the game. Even tho ngl currently he's kinda fallen because of that stalk bug, i really hope they fix it soon instead of doing idk what with their time.
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His chases are consistent (around 15 seconds if you're good and can go as low as 10 if you got STBFL), he's got good map pressure at base and insane with Windstorm, he's difficult to track in chase, can effectively counter loops, and he can track extremely well due to his enhanced hearing at base, he's fun as hell to play and fun to face.
Wouldn't you agree @Boss
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@Poweas said:
His chases are consistent (around 15 seconds if you're good and can go as low as 10 if you got STBFL), he's got good map pressure at base and insane with Windstorm, he's difficult to track in chase, can effectively counter loops, and he can track extremely well due to his enhanced hearing at base, he's fun as hell to play and fun to face.
Wouldn't you agree @Boss
Certainly.
I fell in love all over again for this ringing #########.
He's still pretty Add-on dependant (or he benefits a lot from them), but almost any combination of Add-ons feels like it's enough to do at least moderately in red ranks.Granted, my favorites are the Windstorms, which is for multiple reasons.
His cloak becomes so useful when even only using the Mud version: Just cloak and block that annoying window: Boom, free hit. (Which is usually the 2nd hit too since getting the first hit in as Wraith is very easy against cocky Survivors.)The thing bothering me the most currently on him is "All Seeing" - Spirit. I just don't feel that it's worth it.
If i want a "Protect that specific Generator" ability, i'll equip Discordance or Surveillance.
Not a weak Add-on per se, but totally not worth its rarity.0 -
I completely agree with you, but I see one issue with "stalk more than 1 people at once": its going to be difficult to stalk "one tap away" from EW3 if another survivor jumps into the screen, my playstyle on Myers is to pop EW3 only if I'm 100% sure I will get the survivor withing the following 3 seconds0
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Ikr? Wraith with swift hunt and windstorm is amazing and silent wraith is really funny and strong aswellPoweas said:@Axelson said:
Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc.Oh my god. How does nobody see how good Wraith now is? He's amazing now.
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Top 5 with pig? Lmao, I don't want to know how the rest if your tier list looks likeAxelson said:Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc.
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Uhm, yeah we want him to be top tier so he can combat swf groups. What's the issue?FireHazard said:@Poweas said:
Can you revert all of his nerfs. He's rubbish now. Please give him UNLIMITED stalking range and let him stalk more than 1 people at once. Revert the nerfs to his addons and give him faster base stalking. It's not fair. Such a cool killer got killed.I main him...seems fine to me. Those nerfs sound reasonable considering if I had unlimited stalk range then myers would be easily top tier. In most peoples eyes he is still top tier anyways so...
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Axelson said:Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc.
Top 5 with pig? Lmao, I don't want to know how the rest if your tier list looks like
Nurse
Billy
Spirit
Hag
Pig & Myers
Huntress
Wraith
Legion
Doctor
Clown
Leatherface
Trapper
Freddyhere u have
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@Thaznar said:
@Axelson said:
@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Axelson said:Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc.
Top 5 with pig? Lmao, I don't want to know how the rest if your tier list looks like
Nurse
Billy
Spirit
Hag
Pig & Myers
Huntress
Wraith
Legion
Doctor
Clown
Leatherface
Trapper
Freddyhere u have
If only that was true but in reality Myers has nothing going for him. He is better at mindgames than most killers but has nothing to help him in chase that much. He has no map presence. Good teams will starve Myers and there is nothing he can do about it because his stalk is busted and it takes a lot of time sometimes. He can be easily pallet looped and can't handle the pressure of time. The only thing that make him somewhat decent are some of his addons but I rate killers with their base kit. Myers used to be solid back in the days but sadly he crumbles under the genrush meta - add DS and other broken stuff os survivor side and your games will be miserable.
Myers and mindgames? i dont think so, pig and spirit are a looooot more good at mindgames than Myers. If you play tier 1 myers with m&a or that purple add on that gaves you no terror radius then he can do some mindgames
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Myers is strong at mindgames because his EW3 lunge is longer than any other killer, which gives u a huge advantage for mindgames at tilesAxelson said:@Thaznar said:
@Axelson said:
@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Axelson said:Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc.
Top 5 with pig? Lmao, I don't want to know how the rest if your tier list looks like
Nurse
Billy
Spirit
Hag
Pig & Myers
Huntress
Wraith
Legion
Doctor
Clown
Leatherface
Trapper
Freddyhere u have
If only that was true but in reality Myers has nothing going for him. He is better at mindgames than most killers but has nothing to help him in chase that much. He has no map presence. Good teams will starve Myers and there is nothing he can do about it because his stalk is busted and it takes a lot of time sometimes. He can be easily pallet looped and can't handle the pressure of time. The only thing that make him somewhat decent are some of his addons but I rate killers with their base kit. Myers used to be solid back in the days but sadly he crumbles under the genrush meta - add DS and other broken stuff os survivor side and your games will be miserable.
Myers and mindgames? i dont think so, pig and spirit are a looooot more good at mindgames than Myers. If you play tier 1 myers with m&a or that purple add on that gaves you no terror radius then he can do some mindgames
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Axelson said:@Thaznar said:
@Axelson said: @HavelmomDaS1 said: Axelson said: Myers for me its top 5 killer with pig in the same place. Yeah, he needs some little buffs to be great again but it's not as bad as Wraith, Trapper, Legion, Clown, Freddy etc. Top 5 with pig? Lmao, I don't want to know how the rest if your tier list looks like Nurse Billy Spirit Hag Pig & Myers Huntress Wraith Legion Doctor Clown Leatherface TrapperFreddy
here u have
If only that was true but in reality Myers has nothing going for him. He is better at mindgames than most killers but has nothing to help him in chase that much. He has no map presence. Good teams will starve Myers and there is nothing he can do about it because his stalk is busted and it takes a lot of time sometimes. He can be easily pallet looped and can't handle the pressure of time. The only thing that make him somewhat decent are some of his addons but I rate killers with their base kit. Myers used to be solid back in the days but sadly he crumbles under the genrush meta - add DS and other broken stuff os survivor side and your games will be miserable.
Myers and mindgames? i dont think so, pig and spirit are a looooot more good at mindgames than Myers. If you play tier 1 myers with m&a or that purple add on that gaves you no terror radius then he can do some mindgames
Myers is strong at mindgames because his EW3 lunge is longer than any other killer, which gives u a huge advantage for mindgames at tiles
Yeah its true
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He's always been a pretty solid mid to slightly above mid-tier killer. He was never really a top tier killer aside from when he first came out and nobody knew how to play against him. Since then he's gotten a bunch of buffs and nerfs- immunity to detection perks, cannot stalk multiple survivors at the same time, removing the stalking cue, increasing evil within I movement speed- but I wouldn't say any of them really made him unplayable. I still see a good number of shapes even to this day.
Basically I don't really see how he's unplayable now. His only really noteworthy nerf was removing his ability to stalk multiple survivors at once, which I could go either way on (though I do feel like this just encourages people to spread out and work on separate generators, making them more efficient). Unlimited stalking range would be pretty silly because I could just stand up on a hill or in the second floor of a building and stalk a dot across the map, but it also wouldn't work because the rate at which you gain evil within is based on how much of your view is occupied by them, so by stalking someone far away you would basically be getting a tiny fraction of what you'd get from stalking them up close. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot if you did because it would take an incredibly long time to level up your evil within. You should never be in a situation where you can't get close enough to stalk the survivors since you always move faster than them.
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Michael is, and always has been, one of the best killers in the game. Period.
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He really should have no limit on stalk per survivor and he needs his multi stalk back.
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