Will they ever admit their mistake and remove COH?

I don't think it should be removed from the game.

I do think its healing speed buff should be nerfed or removed.

i dont agree to remove or nerf it because there is a simple counterplay : find it an find the player who has the perk and get him out as fast as you can or use perk like coulrophobia.

Its circumstantial, but most importantly the downside isn't enough to offset getting the functions of a 5th perk. It needs more stipulations that keep it in line with other similar abilities, and since boons themselves are centered around essentially needing the killer nearby to work, it makes a massive outlier in its counterplay potential due to being effective at the opposite corner of the map. It dominates 3 gens, ruins stealth and hit and run playstyles, and further devalues injuring survivors as opposed to either downing/hooking/killing them.

Think of it like this: If plague's power didn't inflict broken, how much weaker would it actually be? That stipulation is extremely important to how the rest of her power works, like the fountains. Healing is slower than using a fountain to cleanse, but that downside isn't as much as giving her the ability to spit bloodpuke. The concept surpasses the efficiency shift at face value alone.

that would be fun ;) nice idea .

reveal aura basekit .

for the exposed , i would make a perk like : "Touch any Totem (Destroy or Boon) = exposed for x seconds"

Circle of healing is fine, they just need to buff inner strength and self care, and coh will fall off the meta

I would go a step further and make it an actual Circle of Healing, ie while you are inside of it, your health bar slowly fills itself, no matter what you do. It would be slower then self-care, but stack with other forms of healing. The healing could he accompanied by a telltale ringing sound and some soothing light.

Exactly. I finally bought Mikaela as I was very against boons (as Survivor and Killer), and I felt like I was throwing games looking for a totem so long unless I brought a map. And then on top of that you still have to heal. Way better than Inner Strength but I just didn't like it, love Shadow Step though.

I have always brought Med-Kits almost every game since I started playing years ago and it is just so much more reliable. Yeah the whole team can't get the benefit but games are still very winnable without CoH on any player. And there is nothing more frustrating than a team who misuses boons and waste way too much time running back and healing or booning the same totem over and over as the Killer repeatedly snuffs it within seconds.

All you have to do is do a gen, then boon the totem right next to it after you finish if there is one. By finishing the gen you have removed that portion of the map as a priority, as the killer generally wants to use their presence to slow down pressure of said gens. If there is a 3 gen for example, that first finished gen will generally be quite far outside of the killer's effective range, and will cause them to sacrifice the 3 gen pressure to deal with it.

The problem is that CoH has no real counterplay. It's still s tier at 50% but it could go back up if to 75% imo if a perk wasn't required to actually deal with it.

As survivor you just put CoH in a strong spot with no pressure like some spots on rpd and Iron works top floor or you throw it in a area with an already completed gen. If the killer wants to go waste his time snuffing it he is losing way more pressure than the survivor's when one sets up that boon. Typically you don't do it at the beginning when the killer is still patrolling looking for survivor's but instead in the mid game when people really need to start resetting and the killer simply doesn't have the time to make his way to where the boon could be. Shattered should have just been implemented with boons in the first place and then you buff boons that need it to compensate. And it's not like people run it less, it's in every game for the most part.

These are the top 4 perks seen in my games as killer.

Yeah I'm not saying it's weak, but it can be easily misused. Maybe cuz I was SoloQ'ing it felt underwhelming especially when you're the only one doing gens. But thank you for the advice, I'll consider that if I want to try a boon build again.

people still have a problem with COH?

killer play-styles should be re-directed into perks that facilitate that playstyle. there are also killer power that can help strengthen a play style in synergy with perks. Just like certain killer perks might facilitate a play-style, there are certain survivor perks that punish/counter a particular play-style. If hit & run is weak, then perhaps invent new perks that reduce healing speed and buff existing perks that reduce healing speed. Those perks will help the killer facilitate a spread pressure playstyle.

One of my main issues with playing soloq survivor(and I'm certain many other survivor share this problem) is that healing coercion in soloq is really bad. Without presence of aura perks for survivor to precisely know the location of survivors, healing in soloq is not time efficient. It takes too long to heal because finding teammate on outdoor maps is painful. For example if a survivor get hooked in badham, a survivor team can unhook you, but the killer is proxy camping and is coming back to the hook but does not find you/chase you. You have no time to heal so you are split up from the teammate that saved you. you need find the other two teammate which could be on any generator and walking around mindlessly to every generator is not time efficient. Its much better to be able to directly walk to your teammate, but lack of information prevents time efficiency.

There is also the fact that a lot of games as survivor, you end up not being the survivor who is being chased but all your teammate are dropping the flies. Being the janitor survivor is not very fun for when I play survivor. I do not like spending time healing teammates that go down to a billy because I know that there is likelihood chance that a survivor going down to x weak killer at x point in the match is likely to get hit and go down again. Healing is only thing that you can do for your teammate to try to make them not go down as fast. Sure, they might pull a miracle and suddenly they become godly and loop the killer properly but more often then not, healing is just means to delay their inevitable death.

There is also the problem where the agreement to heal and consent to reset everyone health-state from injured to healthy is mushy. there is often no concise plan in soloq. its just ebb & flow. COH fixes a lot of these soloq issues in regards to finding survivors, being a janitor towards your teammate health-states and whole reset your team health-states. This is whole reason why everyone used to run self-care at one point because self-care also fixes these issues. With self-care, you not need to find teammates, you just heal on your own. The agreement to heal is no longer needed because once again, your healing on your own and the 4 survivors(if all of them equip self-care) can janitor their own health-state. You can assess your own risk vs reward to being injured. This is also same reason why a lot of survivor use med-kits because med-kits are like old stronger self care.

I think if soloq had same efficiency at healing as SWF does in 3 man re-grouping to heal, then perhaps these med-kits & coh could use toning down. As of right now though, the med-kits & circle of healing reduce need for teamwork from the survivor which soloq has poor teamwork overall in the average match. If survivor had aura's, there would be less of a need to use these healing boosters since healing is already pretty fast when done in a group. Weakening COH is little bit like weakened old self-care. it makes solo-q feel worse to play but does not change anything for SWF because they do not healing perks to efficiently heal. The bottom line is that survivor that med-kit & coh use it because they do not like the killer snowballing heal pressure and the whole team-dynamic in soloq for healing.

the perk would still grant 5 perk slots to other survivors. All hex perks grant 5 perks to the survivor. Its just that other boon perks have range restricting making those perks situational 5th perks that are not worth equipping. removing self-care benefit would still grant everyone 50% botany knowledge, but now the perk is as situational as other boons. In other words, it is not worth using.

i never faced 4 COH in a game, even when mickaela dlc were out. you were unlucky if you get 4 COH

CoH is just annoying for killers who can't end chases or are camping the hell out of 3 gens.

CoH burns up so much time for survivors that I think it's a decent trade-off. They either have to run small game with it and waste a slot or spend time finding a totem on their own. Then every time they want to heal they have to run to the totem.

On the flip side if people stopped using CoH or it we're nerfed they could run resilience or something like it and spend more time on gens so killers could complain about gen rushing. It's turning into a circular pattern.

But what you have described is literally the worst-case scenario and even then you have described it as "fair". Given that's a "fair" situation only proves how broken CoH is in a less-than-worst-case scenario.

How is this more useful to survivors than running Aftercare, Bond, Empathy, or some other survivor-aura reading perk and healing anywhere on the map?