never hooked teammates are the worse

Yeah, I sometimes wonder if people see not having been hooked as an indication of doing well, and maybe it is, for them alone. But, it often times it spells disaster for the team at large, because it's like playing with three people instead of four.

Yeah, some killers get fixated and obsess over certain people, especially when they're being antagonized. Not all instances of being the only one without hook states makes you bad.

Depends. Sometimes I get those teamies on my teams / see survs like that when playing killers. -- Sometimes I find myself with zero hooks while everyone is death hook because just of how the match went; e.g. a lot of hook trading on the side I was not on.

Players would definitely benefit from realizing that their hook states are resources to be invested into the round. Having no hook states when other people have died in a match is not necessarily a sign of having played well, often it's the opposite. Doesn't mean every scenario (or indeed every teammate) is worth taking hits or trading hooks for or whatever, but as a basic concept it is obvious that because all survivors can still escape even if every single one has been hooked twice and that matches can fall apart much easier if even just one survivor dies before the endgame, playing to spread out hook states as much as possible is always something survivors should try to do.

Exatcly how I play survivor.

I can't loop for the love of God and I do more for the team when I do gens and hex and unhooks and stay away from the chase cause I will not kepp the killer at bay for 2 min so you guys can do gens I get 20 secs max if it's not blight or wesker if it's nurse I could just not run at all and that 20 sec is when I have good loops and a bunch of pallets to spam.

Never understand why I am bad for being good at stealth maybe other survs should learn to stealth better so they can vanish when they are on death hook

I play normal until the odds of survival go down significantly (1 dead/dc 3 gens or more left). Then I play for the escape. I'll hide if need be. I don't want to be in MMR hell so escaping is my goal when things go sideways. Sole Survivor and Wake Up help significantly with the gates.

If they were just being inefficient and waiting for hatch for a dumb challenge or any other type of direct sandbagging, yeah they're pretty much costing you the game.

But If the person did 4 gens because everyone else kept divebombing the hook and forcing trades while they were the only one actually working toward the objective, I feel more sorry for them than anything. They probably capped their points for the match ages ago while everyone else has been forcing themselves at the killer, and they are using a perk like kindred or empathy to see it all in realtime. It all really depends on the context of the match around them.

In instances where this happens to me, it's usually because the killer abandons chase with me and is then hesitant to engage in another chase. Either that, or gens are flying by and I just never was in a position to take agro from the killer.

Yeah just had a game where I took a hit for someone and aggro with 3 of us still left in the game.

Guess who got to die on first hook.

I think it’s fairly common, killers who don’t want to “tunnel” but will only focus on two survivors. I’ve had so many matches where I was one of the two and just hid when I caught on to the strategy and only became visible when exit gates were open… in one match the killer never hooked or monitored gens because they were looking for just me because I was the only one with hook states, my squad opened the gates and I got hatch.

I've been on that end a few times, heck I've even been the "never seen" survivor, in that I'm just quietly running arround getting gens done and only going for the unhook if it is 90% safe to do so.

The few times I do try to get the killers attention, they always break chase with me to go after a teammate. It's really weird. 🤔

It is a very inefficient to spread hooks, so good killer players who don't want to hardcore tunnel will tend to ignore one survivor untill one is dead. Chasing a fresh hook just isn't worth it

Also i'm sorry but when it it's very clear that we are not going to open the gate anymore i'm playing for hatch

If this happens cause one is dead and the rest are on deadhook in the 3 minutes it took me to solo 2 gens and i haven't been chased yet then so be it.

I always try to take my part of the pressure but when your team crumbles appart and wouldn't make use of the time you buy them anyway there is no point

Every hatch i get is mmr i'm not losing and one step closer to not have teammates that rat out other players out of petty reasons.

Truth. Half the time I can't get pallets to throw at all even though I'm spamming the key, people don't know how to recognize what perk's the killer's running and when to let go of gens, which gens to hit first, when to go for an unhook, pass a damn skill check to save their life. Plus my looping sucks. My main mode is stealth. Ninja gens/unhooks/heal from ground/etc.

People like the OP get so salty and accuse you of all kinds of crap when you can do a trial without being hooked. Even when you make double their BPs, they say you did nothing. It's not your job to get hooked, it's their job to avoid it.

Yeah, the whole problem with the whole 'I'm not taking a hook state' means that, in the long term, you will die more often from that strategy then you will escape. It doesn't matter if you have 0 hook states or 2 hook states at the end of the game; if the gens didn't get done because the Killer tunneled someone out early you still die on the next hook.

the case for me is, usually when I haven't been hooked in my teammates have it's because they played poorly. I do my very best to be a team player I help out with gens and I do everything I need to do to make sure everyone has a good chance of escaping, but then because the Killer is either tunneling, or my teammates just are playing bad. If my teammates can't hold chase for more than 5 seconds it isn't my responsibility to make sure they get out at that point.

If my teammates are actively helping though, or they are just being tunnel to the entire game then yes I will take hits and whatnot, but unfortunately with solo queue this is not always the case. Sometimes you just get bad teammates, but that point it won't be my responsibility, or if my teammate is throwing that's another reason why I wouldn't take chase or hits for them.

Some games the Killer just wants nothing to do with me. Everyone will be injured, on death hook, and me sitting pretty at full health no hooks. I'll make myself as attractive as possible, they'll hit me then move on. I'll body block, they'll slug me and move on. For a hook trade, they go for the other one. Sometimes killer just REALLY don't want anything to do with me and it looks so bad when I get hatch and it's like 'I swear I would've taken a hook if I could.'

Or maybe they’re just better at doing their objectives and staying hidden