There should be an option to play vs solo survivors only as a killer
DBD please add this option, i'd rather wait 30 mins then deal with SWF on unbalanced survivor game.
Check this video out and then tell me in comments how game is Killer sided or balanced
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No, as it would be the same as giving survivors the option to dodgr certain killers, its a position of entitlement, if you lose then get better do not ask for others experiences to be hindered just to habe easier matches, not every match can go as you want it to.
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You can't get better on a game that is designed for you to lose 100%. If you watched the video you would understand how it feels Killer High MMR.
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Then why can you opt out of Cross play?
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You can certainly beat SWFs. It's not easy and some squads are going to be much harder than others. But the act of queueing up with other people being an auto-win is far from the truth.
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I am very sure that you dont go against tournament teams. The general SWF which is encountered in Public games is not impossible to beat, not even close.
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Are you fine with Survivors having the option to opt-out of facing off against certain Killers?
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Fam I play slinger, literally a meme killer, and I am stupid enought to play without slowdown(I personally count plaything as stealth), and addonless, and if the majority of survivors are so bad that I can win my fair quantity of games then you can too, even better if you play better killers.
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Yes, yes i am. I hate doctor, not for any reason other than his laugh.
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Sure, as long as I can opt out of playing against any killer above D tier.
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This guy is still complaining about losing to survivors? On multiple threads? You can't win every game as killer my guy. Seems like every killer loses it if they get less than a 3k on a game.
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So... Someone had a bad game once in a tournament against literal pro players, and we'll use this as a basis for a mode that prevents casual killers from running into Gary and Tom playing casually after their shift ?
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I am fine with that as long as we can opt-out facing certain perks and tools that survivors bring
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So... cherry pick just about everything except the map, the one facet most people here agree is the most problematic?
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You can't cherrypick what consumables and tactics survivors use just because you dont like them 🤣 imagine if p could do the same for killers. Like 20% of the game content would basically be removed.
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And OPs next post will be that Killers Queues are too long once they decided to only play against Solos with Meme-Perks.
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You can't make playing against SWF optional. Most killers would opt not to, and the killers that would queue against SWF would bring sweaty builds. Casual SWFs (which are the majority) would face long queues and miserable games.
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Oh, I hate his laugh too lol
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I started to play SWF, it's impossible to play against campers / tunnelers in SoloQ, it's should be fixed firstly
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It would be disastrous to the game, as a lot of killers would, understandably, skip swf teams. This would mean a decent portion of the playerbase may decide to leave, being unable to get a game, and that's unhealthy at this point.
Maybe a killer could be granted additional BP at the end of a match if they meet an swf, which I'd be okay with, but really there are only a comparatively small number of "de-pip squads", and most swf have their own weaknesses, such as being overly altruistic or trying to make plays to entertain their friends.
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"You cant get better on a game that is designed for you to lose 100%".
I couldnt agree more with you.
This is what happens to me every time i get matched against a +3k nurse and get stomped effortesly.
But you know how it is.
You flip a coin, you get a normal game with chance of escaping/4k.
You flip again, you get nurse/SWF.
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There is nothing wrong with Gary and Tom playing casually after their shift, but there should be an option to choose
- Quee for solo only
- Flex quee for 2 and above survivors only
- Killer quee to chosee if he wants to quee against solo only or against SWF
- Why is this an issue to add ? i don't get it
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The reason this is an issue to add is obvious.
You don't want to verse SWF. How many killers do you think do, if they were given the choice between an uncoordinated group and a coordinated one? Especially when, while bully squads are rare, they're exclusively SWF and you can avoid getting bullied by avoiding all SWF?
What do you think the killers that do queue against SWF are going to bring, knowing they will face harder survivors?
Now apply that to queue times, and Gary and Tom when they go to play casually after their shift. That's the issue.
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That would kill the game so fast. I only play with my friends from college, if that were denied me I'd never log back in. Admittedly I used to play more solo q, but then 6.1 landed and that playstyle was killed harder than tier 3 myers with judith's tombstone.
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I'm sure all the blights, nurses, and twins would love that feature....as they never get another match again.
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I am almost certain that there are good players on platforms other than Steam, Epic Games Store, and Windows Store.
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Twins? Why Twins? I'm sure all 3 Twins players will be devastated.
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If i remember right, twins were the 0.68% of the killer playerbase
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Not wanting to bullied by coordinated Survivors in a game that was built for solo Survivors is entitlement? Give me a break.
An option to avoid SWF will never happen. It would make queues way too long and SWF have to be huge buyers of cosmetics. Who else is buying bright hair?
An option to see if you played against SWF and a BP bonus would be nice.
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My apologies to the 4th Twins player.
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Why would any killer choose to not go against solo q then
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If all killers choose to play against solo quee rather then SWF team then that would mean the balance is the problem. If game wasn't survivor sided i wouldn't mind taking on SWF any day.
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People can make arguments that the game is killer or survivor sided on any given balance patch, and they're often not wrong about anything they bring up. So I think that claim is irrelevant. The core of the matter is that people like winning and winning is easier against solos than SWFs, so most players would rather go against solos, and players that want a challenge will typically gear up for that challenge appropriately. (You'd also get plenty of people who think SWF is unfair/cheating and would enter that queue to troll, be it by AFKing or by basement Bubba and the like.)
Is the solo-SWF divide unbalanced? Yes. But the answer isn't as simple as 'remove SWF' and this is what this boils down to. It would become difficult for SWF to play if killers could choose not to play against them, and that's a big chunk of BHVR's business right there, so they're not going to do that.
I'm all for buffing solo queue, but this isn't the way.
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SWF is not the issue. Does it help yes but you can watch good players who are streaming, not on comms with anyone and they still play very well and coordinated.
BHVR literally just released the kill rates for the top 5% of MMR and they are just above 60%. Given the soft cap of MMR the average high MMR killer is gonna get 2-3 kills on average a match.
It is possible that your expectations for yourself or what you consider a win are too high, or that you are having a selection bias with the matches you remember. A match where you have 4 escapes and 2 hooks is gonna leave a bad taste because it feels unbalanced. But a match where you have 4 kills at 5 gens you will probably brush off as they are "trash survivors" when in actuality they made more mistakes or you made less. Have you been keeping track of your matches? Are you getting an average of less than 2 kills per match? Or are you just thinking you should be getting more kills or hooks in games that you lost in?
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This is the match i just played, against SWF Low mmr team.
But once you go to HIGH mmr against SWF its whole different story, most of the matches are impossible to have even 2 kills and the game is just not a fun experience for a killer.
If there is no way to add separete quee for SWF, then at least we should be able to lock our mmr to not go above certain points by any means.
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I don't know if this is intentional on your part, but what you're basically saying is that you expect to decisively win most games and that you want to play against players who are weaker than you.
Locking your own MMR below its actual level is completely unfair. You're asking for survivors who are at a lower level than you're actually at. You think you don't deserve such high level opponents, but the same can be said of the people you want to face.
Just going by this single results screenshot... your build is very sweaty and you tunneled out the Ada (unless she suicided.) If you want less sweaty games, you have to play less sweaty. And yes, that involves losing - but your MMR will gradually drop and you won't have to fight as hard for the W.
If you play hardball, so will your opponents. MMR is pretty flawed, but that's how it's meant to work.
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Youre showing a 4k which is 40% more kills than average. You cant expect to get that every time. On a killer that you think you have high MMR with if you get 0-1 kills every match in you will drop in MMR. But again the devs released the data showing survivors dying 60% of their matches in the top 5% of MMR. Like it is honestly sounding like you want to win every match however thats not the way this or any game works.
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Dropping mmr is by intentional losing is so boring and god know will it work. You have to wast 10-20 matches in order to have fun for 5-6 then your mmr will go back. Noone knows how system works but it is there is multiple threads on forum, baby survivors facing 15k nurse and similar posts.
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I'm not telling you to lose on purpose. I'm telling you to chill out on the build and playstyle if you want to go up against less sweaty survivors. The losing will be incidental. But if you never lose, if you play for the 4k like your life depends on it, your MMR's just going to keep going up. And that's valid! There's nothing wrong with playing that way. It just means you're going to get a lot of equally fierce opponents.
Right now, you're playing quad slowdown Plague with 5 extra 50-second Corrupt Purges. I sure as hell don't want that anywhere near me as a solo queuer - Plague is one of the worst killers to face in solo because she's one of those killers where one player making bad decisions will kill the rest of the team. If that's your usual kind of build and you have a no mercy playstyle, I'm not surprised you're going up against hardcore SWFs.
When you complain about SWFs that wreck you - the game is matching you up with players it thinks is fair given your kill rate, and nothing you've shown so far is suggesting to me that it's wrong.
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Team Eternal are like the best in the world no? Using maps and clock callouts. This is like the delta squad of the survivor world. My SWFs comms are a mix of swearing and AHHHHHHHHHH.
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Because at least Sony used to actually refuse to even participate in crossplay back when it started becoming popular, and pretty sure it's still mandatory for any developer wanting to use crossplay on a Sony console to include an option to turn it off.
I'm entirely serious. I am absolutely convinced that if it wasn't for stuff like this, crossplay would very rarely be possible to opt out of as from a queue time and player count perspective it's basically a pure positive from a developer and/or publisher viewpoint.
EDIT: Basically an example of an industry-level decision that quite simply exists on a level "above" any individual game having an impact. Another example is how any and all interference with party chat on Xbox is just straight up not allowed or possible.
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I play plague the least and that is why my mmr there is not as high, but you are right on what you said.
I do play every match with at least 2 slowdowns and i aim for 4k by any means, that means i camp and i tunnel most of my games when i see it benefits me for the pure win.
Problem is i get fun with low mmr people for a bit, then 5-6 games in a row i face SWF ( somtimes even solo ) squads that wreck me.
Either i am not as good the game thinks, or there is big in-balance in power between the top and avrg mmr quee. Either way i don't want to deal with it, i would like to somehow get locked and not go high mmr at all.
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We should also be able to opt out of playing against Campers, Tunnelers, people who dc often, people who didn’t pay their rent that month (cuz we know they on McDonalds internet at that point), people who don’t know what 2+2 equals to, people who don’t post cute animal pics etc etc…
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Are we actually using a DbD League game featuring Eternal (arguably the best team in the world) as a balance metric? Take it from someone who has a lot of experience playing comp killer: you are not experiencing anything close to this level of play at any MMR.
Like...when is the last time anyone saw a survivor path on Lery's the way Bubbo pathed at the 2:39 mark? Nobody chains those rooms in a pub. Eternal's Ghostface 2k'd right after that on the same map. Comp games can go that way sometimes where one killer just has a hard time getting anything going. It happens at that level. Not really a cause for alarm.
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then swf never would get a game because every killer would do that. i know its easier to win against solo qs most of your games but thats the exact reason people want to play with their friends, because they actually get a chance to win instead of losing over and over again due incompetence.
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There already is that option.
Tutorial against bots. Free wins all day, baby!
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I can't believe you think all these threads will somehow get BHVR and other people to agree to you and other killers getting free wins every game. Like other people have suggested, play only solo Survivor for a while and then really consider what you are asking..
You've even admitted to camping and tunneling. There are 4 other people playing in your trials that are already not having fun! Stop complaining about SWFs if you are not going to even try to stop playing as sweaty and Try hard for the 4k every single game...
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I have to laugh at this. cmon man
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It's wholly possible (and even likely) that MMR isn't working to perfection.
But, uh. No. No, you don't get to lock your MMR. No one gets to specifically seek out baby matches to stomp.
Because that is going to be the actual result of MMR locking.
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Is it fun to camp or tunnel ? No, for both sides, its boring to camp a hook, but gives you no choice, 12 hooks in High mmr ? Gl with that my friend.
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You're complaining about not having easy games while going out of your way to play as hard as you possibly can to win. You can always chill out, go for the 12 hook games and if survivors escape oh well, you'll eventually get easier survivors to play against.
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