If blights add ons get (rightfully) destroyed can we get crow basekit?
My only problem with blight is that he's overreliant on speed.
When his add ons do get changed, I hope at least crow becomes base kit, as against good players he struggles without some form of speed.
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The best I will happily concede to is Rat basekit, but even then I'd hate it. Blight has a very good base kit with a few very overtuned addons, so ideally his base kit is left completely alone and his addons all get absolutely decimated, nerfed into the ground and buried so far under that even poor Demo will struggle to find them.
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Blight's basekit is already good enough, we don't need to make one of his best add-ons basekit at all
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No add on blight struggles against good players and on some of his worst maps. A significant amount of blights strength comes from speed.
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Okay maybe middle ground then?
Crow gives 6, rat gives 4, what about 5?
Base kit 5%, then nerf crow and rat to 3% and 2% respectively.
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Basekit nothing and Crow and Rat get changed to completely different effects, alongside Compound 33, Alchemist's Ring, and Adrenaline Vial.
Or we give the 5% and Blight's overall movement speed is reduced to 4.4m/s.
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Basekit 5% but it can only stack up to 15%.
Let's him traverse large maps and play loops faster, but no more of the un-reactable hugtechs
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Assuming a world where adren vial and other add ons get nuked, and hug techs dont exist, I think it should have no cap to help him even more on large, clustered maps.
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No basekit changes. Crow reduced to 3%. Rat reduced to 2%. Fair? All in favor say aye.
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I don’t think he needs that at all. His basekit is balanced; his addons are stupid and deserve to be toned down with nothing in return. This might be an unpopular opinion but I think the speed addons are stupid too, just not as much as some of the other ones that are more blatantly overpowered.
I just want the devs to actually nerf his addons but not destroy his basekit while they're at it. But he wouldn't need any buffs either.
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No.
5% base kit, crow 2%, rat 1%
Or base kit 6%, no speed add ons.
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Any good blight main will tell you that you do not need speed addons to play him at full effectiveness. Its not like speed = win you still gotta know when to use your power which means zoning like billy has to do with curves.
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I see your point -5% movement speed cumulative per rush. Just a small reduction to basekit. Blighted Rat and Crow remain the same.
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I raise you -5% basekit but crow goes 11% and rat stays the same.
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Him and his add-ons are fine. Get good.
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They don't balance around the top % of players, who can actually use blight.
They balance around the bottom 50%, where killers like Clown outperform him. That's why in a single patch clown got nerfed and blight got buffed.
If they balanced around the top % nurse would have been removed already. Considering that most veteran killer players rock like a 95%+ winrate I don't think they care or will change him anytime soon
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Bruh I'm literally trying to get his basekit buffed because it's not that great without at least one speed add on.
Also no C33 and vial are absolutely not fine.
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But the difference between blight without add-ons and blight with even just yellow and green add-ons is very big. In the Nurse vs Blight Otz video, the blight having double speed was the difference between a 1k 4 stage and a 4k. Crow and Rat should be made green and purple, and Alch ring just removed. His rushing should be increased to 240% (from 230%). Adrenaline Vial should be changed to grant one additional rush and to decrease token recharge time to 1.5 seconds. Compound 33's pallet breaking speed should be changed to the time it takes to break it with a lethal rush attack.
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He has one of the best basekits. What even is this thread.
His basekit doesn't need a nerf (his top addons do), but in what world do you think it needs a buff?
On the list of killers that need changes to their basekit, Blight is way down near or at the bottom.
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Yes but the difference between double speed blight and nurse is one can get downs relatively fast while the other is instant, and blight has to worry about pallets and windows. And they plays where it seemed like double speed made a difference... really didn't. Sure the blight used 4-5 double speed rushes and could rush from almost anywhere on the tile but a regular speed blight with good positioning can still get that same hit in 3 rushes.
Either way comparing the literal cheat killer to a killer that still has to abide by the games basic rules on top of the fact that this game is VERY swf sided with seemingly only nurse being able to compete unless the blight is allowed to run ring crow which is arguably just as strong or even better or the funny adren vial c33.
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Why? Blight's basekit is great. He doesn't need buffs. The whole issue with his addons is that they're very good addons on top of a very good killer and put together, it's too much.
Most killers will struggle against good players on bad maps. That's why you bring addons in the first place.
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Nah his basekit is just meh. Nothing special. Struggles on large maps and anti blight maps like garden and eyrie.
Making a 5% base kit speed add on alongside add on nerfs makes him more fun to play, the same to verse cos everyone already runs crow, and stronger. There's literally no downside to it.
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What do you mean, there's no downsides to making it basekit? It means people will run 3 addons on Blight instead of 2. Even if you're getting rid of alch ring and c33, that's pretty strong. Blight is too strong with addons =! Blight should get one of his best addons basekit.
And I beg to differ about basekit Blight. He's still way better than basekit most of the roster.
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Why does the second strongest kliller in the game need anything added to his basekit?
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Emphasis on "given add on nerfs".
If his add ons were actually balanced, making 5% speed base wouldnt be a problem. I'm suggesting a fat nerf to add ons (speed included) and base 5% speed build up to make him less crow reliant.
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Skill issue.
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Because he's only the second strongest killer because speed exists.
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What?
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Who are you suggesting is better other than Nurse?
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Spirit, artist, and maybe pyramid with add ons is better than base kit blight.
He reminds me of old billy, most of old billys viability came from charge + doom. Because he got no charge add ons in the rework he became much worse than he was before (ignoring lopro obv).
Also, another argument can be made for spirit as well. Spirit is quite add on reliant so i would love to see a charge add on base kit and all of her other add ons (speed specifically) nuked to oblivion.
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Blight without addons is still stronger than most killers -with- addons.
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Most? sure.
Second best killer tho? Nah.
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I would be very happy with blighted rat basekit with add on nerfs.
Controller Blight without add-ons is really draining, I feel like I'm putting in a lot of mental and mechanical effort for the payout of playing without add-ons, I can barely play 3 games without feeling overexerted, so I always run atleast rat personally.
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How do they change his counterplay.
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The only basekit change to Blight I'd make would to make his successful rush hit cooldown 2.7 seconds down from 3 seconds to make it in line with the basic attack cooldown reduction. (Same with Demo btw)
Crow is a problematic Add-on, and you want to add such a thing into his basekit?
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I know this is sort of an ironic statement but in the nurse vs blight video that otzdarva made, double speed was the difference between a 1k 4 stage and a 4k
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a joking statement*
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It wasn't necessarily specific plays where double speed made a difference, but more the overall outcome of the match. The difference between a 1k and a 4k is pretty damn big. Also nurse downs were hardly ever instant in the otzdarva showcase games, and they usually aren't at higher MMR games either. Quite a few killers are able to compete with SWFs. Saying the game is SWF sided doesn't really make sense, as a group of solos can perform better than a SWF, its more dependent on skill level than anything else. I wouldn't call nurse a cheat killer as she has downsides and penalties that other killers don't.
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i wish most killers had his addon diversity and strength, tho i think most of them do need nerfs I'd hate for all that fun diversity to perish and then he'd be another killer with useless addons.
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You mean C33 and vial?
Counter to blight is using strong windows in conjunction with predropping. Predropping does nothing because he breaks the pallet instantly, gets his rushes back instantly, and you're hindered.
This means you're forced to use windows all match, which isn't a viable option as there won't be god windows around 24/7, you're hindered so these windows are harder to reach anyways, and the amount of benefits that vial gives you makes even some of the strongest windows unsafe.
So basically, you die. You have a better chance against a range nurse.
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any killer with no add ons struggles against good players on maps bad for them. Just run the add on.
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What's the difference between that and Leatherface instantly breaking pallets?
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The fact that bubba has to catch up to you as a 115% killer but blight can start his rush instantly plus you're hindered.
Forums full of spicy takes but I didn't expect "c33 has counterplay" to come up.
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Of course the Hindered makes a difference, but only a little bit. Are pink add-ons not supposed to be strong? When are we getting rid of Brand New Part and Styptic Agent then?
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Yeah, just not "absolutely brain dead with no counterplay" strong.
Tbh, wouldn't mind an insta heal or BNP nerf either.
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Nerf all 3 of them.
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Sure, but it will be the destroyed version plus a penality.
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