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nurses get stronger
nurses get stronger
She's a killer with a great concept, but she needs the Survivor's aura to disappear just before she blinks.
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That new perk that shows surv close to the gen being kicked, i am scared.
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How many Nurses "kick" Gens?
For me it depends on situation so I won't be using that perk on Nurse
But I might use it on Pig and other Killers
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I highly doubt that it will be game-changing on Nurse, simply leave the area, sure it harms survivors who hide all the time, but if you really are complaining just use distortion then you never need to worry about aura reading perks in the first place. Do not nerf strategies just because you think they are op because you are too lazy to bring your own counters. Heck, even awakened awareness is easy to deny information to without distortion all you need to do is make sure the Nurse has to hook facing away from your direction, and as soon as she looks away to hook, move to a different spot to mislead her into wasting her time, be outside of her terror radius as it the same range I believe, or just simply run distortion.
I'm sorry, but the people complaining about this being too strong on Nurse have no concept of what is and isn't overpowered, the only perk that is definitely much too strong is starstruck every other perk on her is fine, and fair as aura perks, in general, are a difficult perk selection to choose as sometimes you can get zero value from it. Also if you don't believe me that aura perks can mislead killers then you have never simply double-backed after realizing the killer had bbq it is literally not that hard to give bad information on an information-dependent killer.
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distortion has a limit with tokens, kicking gens has no limit u can kick gens as much as u want becasue survivors have to do them. every aura reading perk is overpowered on Nurse, you cant react or counter a nurse that blinks inside of you you get hit and there is nothing you can do, is broken and nurse should never have the chance to see auras NEVER or at least not when she is about and using her M2, if she is walking Ok if she is charging immediately should turn off. Dont ask for for complicated stuff that only apply for extremely experienced players that result to be 1% of the player base at most basically the top creame of the SWF. is not just do this or just do that is easy to say that when you have that many hours in the game but then you go play with aura perks and win 90%+ of your games with aura reading on Nurse because is broken.
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Nurse shouldn’t see auras while blinking - that should be part of her rework.
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Yeah, I really dislike that one. We either run and leave scratch marks or hide nearby and get found immediately. I know there's a trend towards gen perks for survivors, but the trend towards aura perks for killers kinda sucks too. They have scratch marks and survivor noises (especially after IW nerf, there's no way to hide it) and now auras everywhere.
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I also understand what you mean.
But for Nurse, being able to see the aura also means she can attack at any time.
I use nurse too, but the aura is too powerful.
It's unreasonable.
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Everyone: Nurse is OP
Nurse Players: Just play stealth you'll win.
Everyone: Nurse is more OP with this new perk.
Nurse Players: Just don't hide near gens
Time to hide in the corner of the maps bois
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Nurse stubborn players don't know this game is about repairing generators
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The new perk will severely punish out of position survivors against a Nurse. It's like most mistakes survivors make against her: why are you there? There's no downside to being halfway across the map by the time she's done kicking the gen. And there's no upside to hanging out near her even if she doesn't have the aura reading perk.
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You say running away from a nurse approaching gen is one countermeasure
But with this perk, it changes to "must run, and quickly"
Survivors lose many options such as walking, hiding behind obstacles, and entering buildings
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Can we, please, stop suggesting nerfs and debuffs in this game ? (other than the really needed fixes and balances)
The developers are clearly doing an amazing job with this title's updates. Let's let them enjoy elaborating their ideas for both ''sides'' without this constant negative feedback on new things!
The Nurse is the killer with the lowest killer rate at October 2022. She does not need a nerf. It is a fact.
I am an (average) survivor and killer enjoyer.
In my experience, I escaped many more Nurses than Plagues and other killers.
The Nurse is the strongest killer in the game. If you loose against people with thousand of hours with meta builds, just get over it. You are not supposed to win, you need to fight for it.
If you still think it differently, I encourage you to try the Nurse on a Nintendo Switch like some of my friends do.
That said, if the Nurse does need a balance, it is something the developers will figure it out. The new perks should be left elabored freely.
The latest aura readings are a nice addition and will add more dynamism.
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She probably has the lowest kill rate only because most of her games result in DC which are tossed out in their stats.
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Is this proved ?
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Previously, I was a nurse and used Darkness Revealed to surprise.
At that time, most of the time one of the survivors would give up the game, so I would let other survivors escape.
I actually used it and felt that it was OP.
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It is the experience of many killers with strong perks, or very good setups. People dc are not a good measure of what is right.
That said, how many hours do you have ?
The killer rate is a large scale count. And dc's for what is known count as kills (unless it is temporarly bugged).
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Nurse is perfectly fine AND balanced as she is, those who complain are very sore and have invalid complains, perks SHOULD be able to work well with a killer, like deathslinger before the WRONG nerf
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Why do players like this who obviously aren't very experienced at the game make statements like this?
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I am not experienced in being salty and sore, nor i am a professional, god-tier player like you
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So like I suspected you've never actually experienced the issue yourself, and yet claim there is no issue. Cool.
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nurse is strong, but she does not need nerf. Experiencing salt? I just move on
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"I have never actually faced a nurse who has learned how to use her mechanics to show how OP she is, but I will speak with authority about something I have no experience in. Everyone who is experiencing this problem should just stop whining."
Do you think people should not have complained about Dead Hard? Keys? Moris? Old Legion? Should they have just moved on? Who cares about balance, eh? If it is in the game it is fine! Nothing should be complained about!
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I main nurse and i cant remember the last time i kicked a gen. This perk will not change that, we need to stop getting perks nerfed because of one killer.
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It literally is in ptb and you guys are saying its op already I want to see more on it before I go ohmygosh its super busted, because half the time I play Nurse I do not kick generators.
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I fear it's going to be yet another balanced perk that gets nerfed because of one stupidly broken killer. I hope I am wrong, but I fear that will happen.
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Distortion after the update has no limit you usually have distortion active all game unless you never take the opportunity to leave the area while the killer has an active aura showing perk like undying dull totems and awakened awareness lol. If you just sit in active reads then of course you won't have tokens everyone who says they will run out is just the silliest thing ever. You do realize you can run while revealed as you do not have scratch marks while a token is used up right? You don't need to sit in one corner the entire time and if anything the duration just needs to be lowered.
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- Nurse will instantly chase if she sees scratch mark or survivor.
- Or she will kick Gen if she doesnt see either scratch mark or survivor.
Run isnt the best case against Nurse, since shes the best in chase. Not leaving scratch mark is better against her, thats why Urban evasion came together with Nurse.
This perk on Nurse forces survivors to run, because walk & hide is impossible.
Most Nurse dont kick Gen. But Im sure there will be no Nurse who use this perk and not kicking Gen.
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I thought so
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During last ptb killers lived in terror of Reassurances looming shadow. See how that worked out ;D
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I think so, too.
I don't want to nerf Nurse, I'm afraid that non-Nurse killers will be indirectly weakened.
Like a Mastermind Perk
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The day they nerf nurse is the day Survivors rule this game especially people who play with other over 1,000 hour players. No other killer can counter squads or streamer players who know how to drag out loops for more than 5 minutes. (Gens can be completed in 2 minutes or less) So whatever happens happens just warning everyone - 2018 player both sides either way I will still play this game
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About distortion you say it's a counter
It's definitely a useful perk.
However, the Distortion Perk doesn't make sense for a single Survivor to have.
Killer's sword targets other survivors
That's it.
It might be useful for your own survival, but is it fun to hide and watch other survivors being detected and killed?
It's rubbish.
Also, I don't know if the killer is a nurse before the ritual, or a nurse using OP perks like this
That's why it's silly to use the bonus frame
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Was thinking this as well. Kinda funny tbh 😆
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Nurses must be the strongest.
That is correct
But it doesn't have to be easy
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Is it because of Auto aim on PC lmao!
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The DC's being tossed? Yeah, it was mentioned quite a bit
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I'm not going to be running this. The best survivors know to W the moment they hear the terror radius. They will not be in range of this perk.
I would also argue that the best survivors also bring distortion, because nothing wastes a killers time more than a survivor who knows what aura perks they're packing.
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If the Nurse can see the Survivor's aura, the Nurse who is proficient in Blink has a 95% chance to hit.
Also, even if you can't see the aura, it's easier to chase injured survivors.
In other words, perks like this lower the difficulty for nurses by more than half
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Concerning the aura's perks :
Bitter murmur : the nurse will see the aura of the survivors, but if they arrange for the completed generator to be away from her, the benefit to her will be relative.
Lightborn : The nurse will see the aura of a survivor who is right in front of her, so she SEES the survivor directly, even without an aura. Moreover, the time it takes for the nurse to grab the survivor she is carrying, it gives the flashlight user time to hide.
A Nurse's calling : very easily avoidable, just go far away from the nurse during care, keeping in mind that she can have Monitor and Abuse.
Barbecue & Chili : technically the easiest to avoid aura perk, and the weakest. It is almost impossible not to have a locker nearby when the survivor gets hooked, especially since even if he dies next to a hook, the animation allows you to hide in a locker.
Rancor : a dangerous skill, as it is quite unstable in terms of anticipation. However, a vocal SWF will know how to communicate to avoid giving too much information to the nurse.
I'm all ears : probably one of the most dangerous aura perks the nurse can use. Deadly during a hunt.
Lethal Pursuer : one of the best aura perks the nurse can use. Obviously very powerful on a small map, relatively effective on large maps.
Flood of rage : another of the best aura perks the nurse can use. Extremely dangerous if combined with Make Your Choice. However, for the combo to work, the nurse must be at least 32 meters away, which potentially prevents her from finding the survivor.
Darkness Revealed : Extremely situational, overpowered on Midwich, and extremely dependent on the position of survivors on other maps.
Awakened awareness : easy to avoid, combine with a locker to avoid getting caught in the back by BBQ.
Nowhere to hide : probably in the top 3 of the most dangerous aura perks the nurse can use. To be seen in the future.
Hex : Face the Darkness : powerful, but would force the nurse to cut her hunt to go on another survivor the moment she sees the aura. To be seen in the future.
In short: many of the aura perks do not give the nurse a monstrous advantage. Some are still very powerful, of course.
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I faced good nurses and yes they should stay, ban sandbaggers
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Yes, punish sandbaggers and trolls. That should be done. It also has nothing to do with a character (Nurse) granting an unfair advantage to the player using her.
I also have a sneaking suspicion these good nurses you have faced aren't very good at all.
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My opinion: Nurse is an absolute mess at the moment. Not even basekit BT or Base Unbreakable can stop her from tunnelling as soon as the first survivor is hooked. If it's a God nurse, it's game over. She does not fit into the state of DBD today. She needs to be fixed. I can have a break from nurse for 6 months and then play her again and 4k with ease. If someone mains nurse, the game is most likely over.
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That is where you are wrong, i am used to slugging nurses and experienced great nurse players, happens but not often at all and yes, still, nurse dont need nerf nor buff, she awards hours put into her, m1 weak killers do not, only serve as plaything for decent survs who dont even need skill.
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My biggest concern is that perks like the Mastermind perk will be nerfed because it's "powerful if nurses use it".
This indirectly weakens other killers.
Also repeats each time an aura visible perk is added
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Distortion regains tokens when you're in the terror radius. So while one is being spent, you're charging up a new one. That's a very poor excuse to not run it.
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If you don't play a killer for 6 months, it is obvious that the MMR of your killer is going to be very very low, not only for the fact that you won't have played it, but also for the 6 resets that will have taken place every 13th of each month.
I remember hearing someone say that he was having a lot more fun doing his challenges, with killers that he rarely used, on the 13th, because he came across much more chill lobby to face 🤗
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This only caters to a small portion of my comment. She is busted imo. But I get what you're saying re: MMR
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