Boil Over is the worst
I'm sick of picking up survivors and seeing the boil over icon when there are barely any nearby hooks. Sometimes, other survivors will be trying to save the carried survivor, too so I just end up dropping them like 60% of the time because I rarely can make it in time. And when there is a nearby hook, there's always obstacles in the way. I'll see a shortcut through them but then boil over usually forces me around it. Please get rid of the boil over buff, it's the worst.
I had a match as the Onryo where I had to down the same survivor like 5 times before I could put her on death hook because she had boil over and every hook was always too far away.
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Boil Over is that really ambivalent perk where when you play it as survivor you take it off after a few games because you don't think it does anything, but when you see it as killer it's always more effective than you'd think.
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No, it's pretty bad in either ways, I'm usually happy when I see it as killer, it usually means the survivors is not using a super meta build or anything like that.
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True ! A little variety is always nice.
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Boil over is just kinda a stupid perk. It’ll either be obnoxious and too strong or obnoxious and useless
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It was my most hated perk even before the buff. I'd rather deal with ds than boil over.
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Turn your camera so the actual wiggle helps you walk in that direction it helps alot, you're basically walking sideways and it helps a bunch.
I hate those survivors that dont have boil over but are making it impossible to walk as if they have boil over on steroids, no idea what causes it and it's rare but that's annoying whatever it is
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It’s just a poorly designed perk that doesn’t actually offer any kind of interesting gameplay and promotes boring strategies
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I know it does suck, I had a Rebecca the other day who kept going to the same spot because I kept trying to bring her to hook and I was so determined. They go to a high place you have to drop from to get that boost and some have been pairing it with Flip flop. I bring Iron Grasp every match now because its very annoying
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its because slugging not balanced in dbd. the counter-play boil over is suppose to be slugging but leaving survivors on the floor is punishing for the killer because of how improbable you are to die on the floor in normal gameplay.
As a result, boil over is either godlike or completely ineffective because its balance relies on how effective or ineffective slugging(leaving on the floor) is. Decisive strike has same symptoms of same problem.
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I use boil over a lot and it doesn't really work for me very often,hardly ever struggle out. As killer it only gives me issues against well co ordinated SWFs. Or occasionally on indoor maps like midwich, meat plant and lery's.
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it's annoying but it doesn't really do anything and has extremely easy and simple counterplay.
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Honestly nothing more fun than having the survivor carry themselves to the hook 🤣
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It can be annoying if there's no hook in range to "surf" the survivor's wiggle towards.
I do get a kick out of it when I'm doing a "Hook X Survivors in the Basement" tome entry and running Iron Grasp and Agitation. Pick up someone running Boil Over and power walk to a hook like it's nothing, with them spam grunting the whole time.
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You've also got to remember that boil over removes hook auras within a certain radius, so that might be why all the hooks seem far away.
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one of the most useless survivor perks.
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I use Boil Over and Breakdown... majority of time they only get 1 hook off me. Useless? Absolutely not..my 2 fav perks!
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Controller is the real reason why this perk needs to be reworked. As others have mentioned, on mouse and keyboard it has ways to counterbalance its effect fairly consistently, but on controller you're pretty much SoL. There are actually quite a few controller specific issues on killer side especially (and a handful for survivors as well,) just due to the nature of the control scheme. I feel its very important to consider both control schemes when looking at its impact.
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Yeah the difference between the 2 platforms is massive. Been playing on PC for a few weeks and playing back on my Xbox now and boil over feels very different and not in a good way. The wiggle not only feels significantly greater, but it actually can stop you moving completely which is something I never encountered in PC.
I'm actually pretty disgusted at how little consideration is given to console players considering they probably make up a large portion of the playerbase.
It's about time that keyboard and mouse support is given like every other cross platform game that is groups with PC. That's literally zero excuse not to have it implemented.
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Man, the amount of ######### I got away with running Boil Over, Tenacity, Unbreakable and Flip Flop is crazy.
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Well said, you should just put everything you said as it's own discussion
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The devs are aware that many of those things have disproportionate issues on controller vs mouse and keyboard thankfully, so no point beating a drum over it. I'm just hoping they follow through with making the gap between control methods less blatant and having it be narrow enough to be personal preference.
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They have scripts or a modded controller.
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Dealing with Boil Over on my Xbox1 controller is a nightmare. It's so easy to bump into objects and get stopped cold in doorways.
Saldy they've said many times they have no plans to add M&K support to the consoles.
And yeah altogether the consoles are by far the largest part of the playerbase. Yet the vast majority of killers are on PC; I wonder why???
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To be fair, playing killer on controller isn't overall terrible. It has some pretty glaring problems, but they can all be isolated. Things like boil over's impact (and its lack of counterbalance availability,) aiming with ranged killers (especially trickster,) aim dressing having a disproportionate impact, and some advanced techniques with certain killers powers being near impossible is quite a laundry list of issues, but your average game with any m1 killer tends to play out very similar to how it does with mouse and keyboard. The problem lies in how much of an impact those issues do have when they happen, which makes the killers that can't avoid them feel horrible to play by comparison. I would argue that things like lightening/removing/having an option to remove aim dressing can be just as helpful as something like fixing trickster's aim jitter or boil over.
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Even M1 is quite different I think. It's very easy to juke a killer with FOV movements on console. Im not really sure why it's so different, but on PC I rarely lose track of the survivor, but on console I lose the survivor a lot when they FOV tech.
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The increased wiggle is the most annoying part, as if the killer needed more of that. You literally can't get through doorways sometimes because it pushes you so hard from where you're wanting your character to go.
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boil over saved me once for about 50-100 uses so no big deal...
few times with surivovrs blocking.
this perk is more depression then fun xd
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It's from a combination of the slightly slower camera turning, dead zones and input lag inherent with the controller, and fps issues on console.
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Best 2ay to handle it is to run mad grit
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I run boil over and honestly it doesn’t work for me unless I have a map where I can use the layout or buildings to help. As someone else said using that drop down to get the extra wiggle is the only way it works for me.
Otherwise it never works because hooks are too close together. The only way Boil Over works for me regularly is if I play swf because I have friends who will try to body block or hook sabo to buy time for me. That doesn’t happen in solo Q ever.
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