Current Killer tier list

Very debatable, as usual.

Here's my short opinion. Rank 1-2 are good and almost oppressive if a player can use them. 3-6 are average and fine if the balance of the game was good. 7-9 need tiny buffs. 10-12 need massive buffs.

1. Nurse - Obvious reasoning.
2. Billy - Amazing map control and a one hit down.
3. Hag - good map control, good chase, small TR. Only downside is setup.
4. Doctor - Amazing tracking, good chase potential.
5. Huntress - Good chase, terrible tracking and map pressure.
6. Michael - Seen as the "average" killer to me, decent tracking and chase but suffers a lot of standard killer issues.
7. Pig - Stall, also the ambush is good against shorter loops.
8. Clown - Very good chase but is lacking in other areas.
9. Leatherface - Power only useful in the open, needs more mind-game potential.
10. Wraith - Good speed while cloaked, horrible chase.
11. Trapper - Setup takes far too long and traps are disarmed easily.
12. Freddy - Obvious reasons.

WUT?

Hag at 3? And here I thought I was being generous when listing Leatherface at B+.

Hag is absolutely insane in the right hands, I can find some guides and vids if you want.

@Techn0 said:
Here's my short opinion. Rank 1-2 are good and almost oppressive if a player can use them. 3-6 are average and fine if the balance of the game was good. 7-9 need tiny buffs. 10-12 need massive buffs.

1. Nurse - Obvious reasoning.
2. Billy - Amazing map control and a one hit down.
3. Hag - good map control, good chase, small TR. Only downside is setup.
4. Doctor - Amazing tracking, good chase potential.
5. Huntress - Good chase, terrible tracking and map pressure.
6. Michael - Seen as the "average" killer to me, decent tracking and chase but suffers a lot of standard killer issues.
7. Pig - Stall, also the ambush is good against shorter loops.
8. Clown - Very good chase but is lacking in other areas.
9. Leatherface - Power only useful in the open, needs more mind-game potential.
10. Wraith - Good speed while cloaked, horrible chase.
11. Trapper - Setup takes far too long and traps are disarmed easily.
12. Freddy - Obvious reasons.
    

I pretty much agree with this one. I'd put Clown above Pig tho, and possibly Huntress above Doctor, depending on the add-ons.

@SaltyKiller said:

@Techn0 said:

WUT?

Hag at 3? And here I thought I was being generous when listing Leatherface at B+.

Hag is absolutely insane in the right hands, I can find some guides and vids if you want.

You're the first guy I've heard from that say's the Hag is high tier. Literally, the first goddamn guy. So, no offense, I'm taking your opinion with a massive grain of salt. I mean, I think the fact that she can take advantage of Make Your Choice definitely raises above the other low tiers. But I still wouldn't say she's top tier.

I'm a Legacy Billy player (which played him 700+ hours), and right now, I consider Hag to be nearly as strong as he is when played properly.
Once she'll get her buff, she may get stronger than he is.

He's not the only one thinking hag is very top tier. It's actually a pretty common opinion shared by several players.
Simply not the brainless sheeps that read a random tier list made by their favorite streamer.

@Techn0 said:

I pretty much agree with this one. I'd put Clown above Pig tho, and possibly Huntress above Doctor, depending on the add-ons.

Clown and pig are interchangeable for me. I tried to put a 7/8 on both of them but I can't figure out formatting for the life of me.

Ye, it kinda depends if you bring add-ons or not and such... In any case, the difference are hard to tell, since it's very map dependant, and situational.

In any case : anything below Doc/Huntress is very probably too weak right now and could use at least a few buffs.

@SaltyKiller said:

@Runiver said:

He's not the only one thinking hag is very top tier. It's actually a pretty common opinion shared by several players.
Simply not the brainless sheeps that read a random tier list made by their favorite streamer.

This is honestly news to me. I think after the re-work she'll easily be mid-tier at least. Trapper will still be bad even after his re-work.

Trapper will be very average after his rework indeed, unless they add something strong to him, tweak his traps not to spawn in corners of the maps, allow him to carry more traps at base and such.

She'll definitely be top tier with a 44 meters teleport range with grey add-on, and a 16 meters terror radius, and an unmatched basement play, along with anti pallets/vault mecanics.
She's actually hella hard to deal with if she ever manage to set up. She'll just have hard time against a full SWF with flashlights. But who wouldn't except for Nurse ?

@SaltyKiller said:

@Runiver said:

Trapper will be very average after his rework indeed, unless they add something strong to him, tweak his traps not to spawn in corners of the maps, allow him to carry more traps at base and such.

He really needed to start with 2 traps by default and his traps instant down by default. But devs didn't want to listen as per usual.

We'll see in the next PTB, but I'm very doubtful indeed.
Imo : he'll get faster trapping speed, a few QoL tweaks and new add-ons, and they'll call it a day.

No buffs for Nurse and Billy needed, same with Huntress. Huntress is ridiculously good if you have the 1 hit kill axe + 2 axes extra

The Pig has some issues. Even Tru3ta1ent thinks shes crap and stopped playing her. It's ridiculously easy to get off traps, honestly, the addon Rules Set No.2 should be built in. It's very stupid how survivors get to see all aura of boxes at the start. Them having the ability to see it once timer activates is fair

the penalty for using Amanda's Letter is too harsh, considering Wraith does a better job at it and no penalty

Wraith, although pellet destroys him he's the best killer for camping if you want to have a game where you camp 2 hooks = 2 sacrifices he's one of the easiest provided you are using the 8/12 see-through aura addons. it's guaranteed you will get at least 2 kills especially if you face camp

His purples addon Blink Blood is a joke, Moderately reduces The Wraith's disappearance time. Buff it to Considerately and add a new addon reduces The Wraith's appearance time Considerately and he's good

Leather face just needs some ultra-rare and Award-winning Chillin needs a buff. If he has an Ultra rare like an upgraded version of Carburetor Tuning Guide he will be very viable. It's also kinda silly how he has his chainsaw noise on all the time affecting his hearings and making you harder to hear survivors, when Billy doesn't have this problem, again a balance issue when Billy is just a superior killer

Freddy, Red Paint Brush is useless. Devs need to understand anything with Reduced movement speed is just bad. Freddy has a humming lullaby, as a result, making this totally pointless. In the Dreamworld, you have wall-hacks on survivor auras and it makes no justification for the lower move speed. Black Box, this should be a purple addon, not Ultra-rare. Absolutely pointless for wasting an add-on slot for this

Myer, Judith's Tombstone movement speed reduction needs to be removed, you can infinite him seriously with this on, on Rank 1 games Judith will never activate and this is meant to be used with Fragrant Tuft of Hair, which is impossible vs any Rank 1 survivors. Vanity Mirror is too punishing for the reduced movement speed again, you are better off playing as Wraith/ Pig, it's good the devs want to try out new modes, But the penalty for doing so made them un-viable in high-rank games

If Myer gets a tremendously increase evil gain addon he will be a top tier killer easily, very easy fix

Doc - Devs made one of the best add-ons for Doc, the penalty for High Stimulus Electrode, however, is too high, as a result, you won't be able to deal with pellet loops due to the long recharge time. If he gets a tremendous version of "Calm" - Carter's Notes he will stay as top killer easily

Trapper - Devs is doing great on the rework, but the color add-ons should be removed entirely, absolutely useless on high ranks when everyone plays on high brightness and no one will walk on grasses. If an injured survivor got trapped again they really should get down. It's so silly how they are able to run again as if nothing happens

Hag - removes/ rework all her purple add-ons, seriously, all high-rank Hags only uses the setting time reduced timer. All of them are unviable, Scarred hand rework is good, the fact that it removes her teleport is a big deal, It limits the player's play style and forces them to use Scarred Hand. If the hag can't teleport and her ability is only to block players. It's even a weaker ability in comparison to the trapper, whose traps might be easier to be seen and disarmed, but are much more punishable notably with the reworks. Especially if he hunts you into them during a chase.

Losing the ability to teleport is like said already a huge deal when it comes to the hag's mobility and map presence. The collisions alone can't make up for that. It would be a very good addon if no penalty on teleport and would make her a very decent killer, a slight reduction on timers for Mint rag would make it much more viable and make Hag a stronger killer

Clown - His AOE last too short same with the area range, there have been too many situations where a survivor is meant to be intoxicated but wasn't even though they are inside the visual area. Garish Make-up Kit makes too little difference and it's still too weak. Mists appearing on top of trees also looks silly. Even with the finger ultra rare addon Huntress is still superior with the 1 hit kill axe. Tattoo's Middle Finger is just plain bad, Devs really need to stop adding these and thinks they are viable at High ranks. Ultra rare of Cheap Gin Bottle with 3 + bottle would have been way better. Cigar Box, why is this even a rare addon? Slightly blurred vision doesn't justify it being a rare addon

He has an addon which is called Solvent Jug which prevents exhaustion for 30 seconds, why not have a better version for Rare etc? Huntress have one for 90 seconds this is really unfair

what makes a good killer best is that the holy trinity doesn't require add-ons to be effective, whereas Trapper etc are useless if they don't have add-ons vs decent survivors

@Runiver said:
I think you mislistened. They won't reduce the speed with waterlogged shoe. They will INCREASE her base speed.

Fixed, meant Teleport

@SaltyKiller said:
Breh, this is a tier list thread not a "so and so needs buffs" thread. Tho, I am to blame for taking it down that path a little bit...

I don't feel like posting it on a new thread and this is on a killer tier list which is relevant if the devs are trying to bring the lower tier killers back onto the game/ making them viable as the holy trinity. I had close to 2.7k hours enough to understand all the issues on all killers

@NeoVid said:
Is there anywhere to see the statistics on how different killers perform at various ranks? Or would seeing the facts of how the game goes crush our spirits?

Last I checked the stats have Pig has the highest kill rate. I wouldn't really take the stats to heart though as it has the killers getting a 2k on average. You can use the stats to say how bad or a problem gen speeds are though if pig really is the top kill rate.

@Soren said:

@Techn0 said:

@NeoVid said:
Is there anywhere to see the statistics on how different killers perform at various ranks? Or would seeing the facts of how the game goes crush our spirits?

Last I checked the stats have Pig has the highest kill rate. I wouldn't really take the stats to heart though as it has the killers getting a 2k on average. You can use the stats to say how bad or a problem gen speeds are though if pig really is the top kill rate.

Yeah, their stats are very bizarre. I remember a while ago, Hag was supposed to have both the highest 4k and 0k rate high ranks, but on other instances it was another killer, etc...

Did they count Mori? Mori matches should not be counted at all in my opinion

S Nurse and Hillbilly
A Hag and Doctor
B+ Myers, Huntress and Pig
B Leatherface and Wraith
C Clown, Trapper and Freddy

Nurse ignores game mechanics and has insane map control and chasing potential. She excels at almost everything. 

Hillbilly’s map control is insane and he has some of the best add-ons in the game period. 

When played right, Hag can do just about everything but requires set-up.

Doctor’s omnipresence and shock during chases can make him a real treat.

Myers gets looped and all but his Tier 3 can turn the game around.

Huntress has a scary power that comes with some god-awful weaknesses such as her directional lullaby, her speed or the very slow wind-up.

Pig is OK in chases with the ambush, but it’s not very reliable. Her traps help a lot tho. 

Leatherface is garbage, but he has the best punish by miles. 

Wraith has OK map control but is garbage everywhere else. 

Clown has OK chase...that’s it. 

Trapper has the most amount of counters in the entire game.

Freddy is so bad, he’s a meme

@Soren said:

I don't believe so, but either way, their stats change WAY too much too be considerd as viable IMO. One week, they say Nurse has the same kill rate as Wraith in rank 1. Another week, they say Hillbilly is the most efficient BY FAR at rank 1. Another week they say Nurse is the most efficient overall, but Hag has the most 4k rate. Another week, they show that LF is the 3rd best killer at rank 1. And so on...

They definitely didn't look at the number of people playing Wraith or Nurse then. I remember the days when they told us Nurse is the weakest killer on Rank 20. There's no way Leatherface was 3rd imao and Hag most 4k lul

All killers are great in the right hands, clown is a beast because he crushes looping. Pig does not crush looping and any spine chill, premonition user or a person who is wary won't get caught off guard. Hardly see her perform well in high rank due to that and the lowered movement speed while moving. The huntress can get looped and hatchets dodged by crouching behind obstacles and she slows even more with hatchet prep. Clown moves faster and isnt slowed by prep, he slows the survivor and secures a hit. The nurse doesn't hurt survivors with her power  but she secures hits. So don't underestimate a power to secure hits. Mike meyers starts off slow but j myers memorial and tombstone piece removes people from the game so quick, and he gets vault boost to handle loops and a hard to miss lunge.

Someissues said:

No buffs for Nurse and Billy needed, same with Huntress. Huntress is ridiculously good if you have the 1 hit kill axe + 2 axes extra

The Pig has some issues. Even Tru3ta1ent thinks shes crap and stopped playing her. It's ridiculously easy to get off traps, honestly, the addon Rules Set No.2 should be built in. It's very stupid how survivors get to see all aura of boxes at the start. Them having the ability to see it once timer activates is fair

the penalty for using Amanda's Letter is too harsh, considering Wraith does a better job at it and no penalty

Wraith, although pellet destroys him he's the best killer for camping if you want to have a game where you camp 2 hooks = 2 sacrifices he's one of the easiest provided you are using the 8/12 see-through aura addons. it's guaranteed you will get at least 2 kills especially if you face camp

His purples addon Blink Blood is a joke, Moderately reduces The Wraith's disappearance time. Buff it to Considerately and add a new addon reduces The Wraith's appearance time Considerately and he's good

Leather face just needs some ultra-rare and Award-winning Chillin needs a buff. If he has an Ultra rare like an upgraded version of Carburetor Tuning Guide he will be very viable. It's also kinda silly how he has his chainsaw noise on all the time affecting his hearings and making you harder to hear survivors, when Billy doesn't have this problem, again a balance issue when Billy is just a superior killer

Freddy, Red Paint Brush is useless. Devs need to understand anything with Reduced movement speed is just bad. Freddy has a humming lullaby, as a result, making this totally pointless. In the Dreamworld, you have wall-hacks on survivor auras and it makes no justification for the lower move speed. Black Box, this should be a purple addon, not Ultra-rare. Absolutely pointless for wasting an add-on slot for this

Myer, Judith's Tombstone movement speed reduction needs to be removed, you can infinite him seriously with this on, on Rank 1 games Judith will never activate and this is meant to be used with Fragrant Tuft of Hair, which is impossible vs any Rank 1 survivors. Vanity Mirror is too punishing for the reduced movement speed again, you are better off playing as Wraith/ Pig, it's good the devs want to try out new modes, But the penalty for doing so made them un-viable in high-rank games

If Myer gets a tremendously increase evil gain addon he will be a top tier killer easily, very easy fix

Doc - Devs made one of the best add-ons for Doc, the penalty for High Stimulus Electrode, however, is too high, as a result, you won't be able to deal with pellet loops due to the long recharge time. If he gets a tremendous version of "Calm" - Carter's Notes he will stay as top killer easily

Trapper - Devs is doing great on the rework, but the color add-ons should be removed entirely, absolutely useless on high ranks when everyone plays on high brightness and no one will walk on grasses. If an injured survivor got trapped again they really should get down. It's so silly how they are able to run again as if nothing happens

Hag - removes/ rework all her purple add-ons, seriously, all high-rank Hags only uses the setting time reduced timer. All of them are unviable, Scarred hand rework is good, the fact that it removes her teleport is a big deal, It limits the player's play style and forces them to use Scarred Hand. If the hag can't teleport and her ability is only to block players. It's even a weaker ability in comparison to the trapper, whose traps might be easier to be seen and disarmed, but are much more punishable notably with the reworks. Especially if he hunts you into them during a chase.

Losing the ability to teleport is like said already a huge deal when it comes to the hag's mobility and map presence. The collisions alone can't make up for that. It would be a very good addon if no penalty on teleport and would make her a very decent killer, a slight reduction on timers for Mint rag would make it much more viable and make Hag a stronger killer

Clown - His AOE last too short same with the area range, there have been too many situations where a survivor is meant to be intoxicated but wasn't even though they are inside the visual area. Garish Make-up Kit makes too little difference and it's still too weak. Mists appearing on top of trees also looks silly. Even with the finger ultra rare addon Huntress is still superior with the 1 hit kill axe. Tattoo's Middle Finger is just plain bad, Devs really need to stop adding these and thinks they are viable at High ranks. Ultra rare of Cheap Gin Bottle with 3 + bottle would have been way better. Cigar Box, why is this even a rare addon? Slightly blurred vision doesn't justify it being a rare addon

He has an addon which is called Solvent Jug which prevents exhaustion for 30 seconds, why not have a better version for Rare etc? Huntress have one for 90 seconds this is really unfair

what makes a good killer best is that the holy trinity doesn't require add-ons to be effective, whereas Trapper etc are useless if they don't have add-ons vs decent survivors

Hatchets easy to dodge, peeps forget that lol. As you said, dont need addons to be effective, no addon huntress is a joke against pro survivors but no add on clown has easier time securing hits and downs. 

1. Nurse
2. Hillbilly
3. Myers
4. Huntress
5. Doctor
6. Trapper
7. Pig
8. Clown
9. Leatherface
10. Hag
11. Wraith
12. Freddy

Top 3 have to be Nurse, Billy, and Myers. In the right hands those three are downright vicious. Although I have never ran into an OP Nurse in my own games on PS4. Most Nurses are new and do not know how to properly use the blink.

Billy has the BEST map control with the chainsaw and you’ll never get away from a P3 Billy.

Myers, Huntress, and Doctor can be interchangeable but he has an instant kill with Judith’s Tombstone and a tuft of hair. Although Myers should NOT have to stalk all four survivors to get to tier 3 or have a tremendous speed decrease, it makes it VERY difficult to pull off a four kill. It is unnecessary. 

Huntress is Overrated since it isn’t too hard to dodge her Hatchets
Clown and Doctor are both Better than Her
although Doc could still use a Buff
every Killer needs to be buffed until there’s only ONE Tier

Honestly I've a far easier time with Wraith than Hag, but then again I just run a full offensive build with him so that may be why.

Pig is certainly not over-rated as I've seen posted in someone's response, at least as far as I'm concerned. I've reached my current rank specifically by playing only her. Hopefully will be able to prestige her with this coming DBPW.

Here's mine.

@BadMrFrosty said:
Based on almost 1000 hours, 700+ of those likely being killer, here's my take on the killers at the moment. The list, in order:

S Tier: Nurse.
A Tier: Billy, Myers, and Huntress.
B Tier: Cannibal, Clown, and Pig.
C Tier: Doctor, Trapper, Hag, and Wraith.
Freddy Tier: Freddy.

Is this factoring in addons? Because I don't see how Myers could be anything above B tier without very rare or ultra rare addons.

The Shape not in the top 5...
That's not a normal.