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Killer etiquette rulebook?
Just finished a match against a SWF. Was going pretty good and managed to get a 3k. Went to the TTV's stream to say hi and gg's. Before I could even begin typing I heard all sorts of crude language from the whole group centered around how I was a toxic killer for X, Y and Z. Needless to say, I left, but it got me thinking...I know everyone isn't like this, but is this the general consensus among people when they lose at this game? Do I need to not hook survivors quickly? Do I need to allow someone to loop me a bunch before I down them? Isn't the objective to win?
I need to know so that I can be a kind killer.
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Guys, guys.. survivor rulebook. Am I right, guys?
Guys, it's- wait, guys, remember the survivor rulebook? No camping, no tunneli-no, come on guys, it's still- where are you going?
Guys, come back! Survivor rulebook! Come on!
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Notice that campfire? The survivor rulebook makes great kindling.
On a more serious note, play as you want. As long as you are happy with the way you played, screw the haters.
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Is the fire too close to the hook? I remember reading something in there about camping near hooks...
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They just want the marshmallows for themselves. They never share
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Universal rule:
You can win, but you can only win while playing in a way that massages your opponent's ego, or doesn't otherwise offend their sensibilities, or make them feel for any reason like they might have lost due to a skill gap.
Because that would be toxic.
But seriously, this is why I just don't do post game chat/messaging. Far more often than not, people just can't accept defeat with grace or take it as a learning experience. External blame needs to be assigned, and it is often done in flimsy, desperate fashion.
This is particularly true when you are the killer; no matter how fairly or wholesomely you play, what perks you use, etc. - if you win, you will usually be accused of doing something, anything, wrong. Anything but acceptance.
Of course this is true of both sides to varying degrees, but killers are more often framed as "not playing the right way" for sure.
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I'd show you it but I already tossed it in the fireplace.
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Survivors will say that if you’re not “playing fair” then you’re being toxic. Of course, their definition of “playing fair” means you deliberately sandbag yourself, give them infinite second chances, and never try to win. “Boo hoo, the killer camped, the killer tunneled, the killer guarded a 3 gen, the killer ran meta perks, the killer didn’t make the game fun for me.”
Ignore all that.
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I just call that a salty surv. I'm a surv main, but I don't get mad when people beat me, I just want a fun game. I just dislike it when people tunnel or face camp because it literally doesn't give me a chance to play. I mean, it's like playing Uno or a similiar card game and hitting one person with all the draw 2 and draw 4's and skips like on repeat at the start of the game. Like, it can be funny, or you can just be a dick.
But there's nothing wrong with the a killer winning the round, if I have a good go and have to put up a fight it's honestly a more fun match.
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Very true.
To the OP -- playing "nice" is subjective. I try to play as "nice" as I can, until it's time not to. Some games I'll meme around, others are sweatfests, most are somewhere in between. What you'll find is that, no matter what you do, you'll never make everyone you go against happy all of the time, so it's best not to worry about what a salty TTV player has to say about you.
I played Huntress against a TTV/SWF group the other day. Two hooked everyone before anyone died, didn't camp or tunnel, and I was running no gen slowdown (using an all aura-reading perk build). I went to the TTV's stream after the match to drop a follow (I like to do so to support other streamers), wished them a GG, WP (they found hatch in a 3K otherwise), and wished them a good rest of their stream before continuing on with mine,
When I watched their VOD afterwards, I heard them call me a "trash" killer, claim that charging my hatchets and being patient with my shots made me a "garbage Huntress", and when I downed the streamer when I smacked them with a hatchet over a pallet they'd just dropped in front of me, they said it was evidence that Huntress herself was "broken", and that her power was "unfair" (and that dropping a pallet in front of a Huntress with a hatchet readied was their "playing the tile perfectly", lol).
I had a good laugh then immediately unfollowed their channel, since they were not only completely wrong about what they were saying, but their attitude was terrible, and I don't want to give any support to people like that. Sadly, people like that aren't the exception we'd like to hope they are, but I'm not going to lose a second of sleep over people like that -- and neither should you.
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You must obey the survivor rulebook,else you're cheating!
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Another thought on "playing nice": if you are constantly taking it easy on everyone, you are doing not just a disservice to other killers (who catch flack for just playing the game as intended due to maladjusted expectations), but to the subject of your mercy, since they aren't going to get any better that way.
There is a wide gulf between just ruthlessly curbstomping a team and refusing to risk making them feel bad at all. Success has little meaning without experiencing failure.
Personally, I enjoy escaping a lot more when it feels like the less likely outcome.
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Your first mistake was queuing up as killer. There are quite a few people that get offended by this. Next you probably didn't pick their favorite killer to against. How dare you? Hitting a survivor is a big no-no as well. And please, please, please don't ever outplay a survivor or use their mistake to your advantage. That makes you automatically a big meany.
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Some people will just be toxic no matter what if they lose.
The way I play killer is I'll start by actively avoiding less popular tactics such as tunneling/proxy camping. Basically I just haul ass away from a hook when i hook someone.
If survs gen rush I may tunnel to guarentee a kill and try to swing the game in my favour. And if it's 4 survs alive, 1 gen left and no visble 3 gen I will absolutely facecamp to get 1 kill.
But on the other hand when I'm doing well and the survs are clearly struggling I'll be nice. Spread the hooks nice and even, stay away from hooked survivors. And long as i don't have any challenges for 4ks or adepts to get (provided survivors haven't BMd of course) I'll usually let one maybe sometimes two or the survs go at the end.
Long story short just mirror how the survs play. If they sweat? Then get sweaty. They reap what they sow. But if they are clearly struggling just cut them a little slack and farm a bit. Everyone gets more BP, more pips. Everyone's happy.
I find giving hatch to last surv particularly is nice since you don't gain much from that 4th sacrifice anyway with the devout emblem being bugged. And it means a lot to a surv when killer allows them hatch/gate in the end game.
Mainly just try to avoid the sweaty tactics early on. Tunneling/facecamping someone out at 5 gens is totally unnecessary and just ruins their experience because it just prevents them from playing. Plus it's the hallmark of a new or subpar killer.
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The Survivor's Rulebook is very expensive and should be purchased at a wagon sale.
It is a very silly piece of academic literature, but it should have won the Ig Nobel Peace Prize
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Don't ever go to a TTV and watch the VOD, especially a SWF. They never have anything nice to say, it's only salt and trash talk no matter what. Lesson learned.
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That's the thing with this game.
For some people it will bring the worst in them up when it doesn't go their way, others are just like that by nature.
It's a fun game but some people just can't handle a loss.
This is something that goes for both sides btw and not only survivors.
I've had hate messages from killers as well when i played as survivors, tho not as much as when i played killer 😅
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How the heck are you supposed to be a kind killer?!!!Play the game and kill the stupid survivors!!
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Same, I'm chatting with some atm
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Unless you thrive off that stuff, lol
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Group think might unwittingly take over people's emotions in these adversarial interactions. As killer the encounter with everyone affects you like a 1v1 with each survivor, but the survivors treat it like "us vs them" - especially if they're on coms, because their buddies are dyin(!). I don't think it's inherent to survivors, but to humans, to think and behave this way in groups. I guess my point is, don't take it personally. Yer aight!
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Rulebook?
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