Nurse is a problem.

Those are some wild numbers you pulled out of thin air. 60-70% of Nurse games have a d/c? Would that move her kill rate, by what, 5%? Where are you even getting that d/c rate from? Is it so disproportionately higher than other killers that her kill rate is uniquely affected? She's easy to master, but has a low kill rate at all but the top 5% of MMR. Like....come on.

It's fine if you don't like her, but be reasonable

I main Huntress when I play killer, and I can say this post is just wrong. It's actually kind of hard to time your blinks and hits right with the nurse. Her skill gap is actually pretty high if I'm being honest.

I main survivor wayy more than killer, and I can honestly say, I LOVE playing against the nurse, because 6/10 times I'm going against a bad nurse who teleports way too far, or not far enough.

Also here's food for thought.... You ever think about changing up your play style? You can't loop her endlessly like you can any other killer, you actually have to play completely different with her.

• First reason mentioned is survivor entitlement/DC/ragequits
• Ignorse first reason mentioned and goes on about how survivor inflated killrates somehow make the killer the problem
• Obligatory "nurse is easy"
• Calls opposite opinions nurse mains and thus dismisses their critism again him
• "Nurse is too strong compared to other killers"

Wow such a anti nurse crusader. Cant wait for your brethren to show up too. See thats a joke.

If this was a joke you didnt wanna post because of the obligatory discussion, why post it?

The last point is always hillarious zo point out how biased the community is: "Nurse compared to other killers is stronger, better nerf her" / "compared to solo, swf is stronger, better buff solo" - do i have to spell it out?

If anything by the "nerf nurse"- logic we would need to nerf the survivor character too because good players are apparantly perfoming better with that characzer than bad players.

Oh and jokes on you, i dont even play nurse because i loathe the fatigue mechanic since nurse's debut.

I don't know if that number holds true in the larger player-base but.....60% of Nurse games having a DC definitely sounds pretty damn spot on to my games.

You have to play differently vs blight but he takes way more skill to play and play against. Skill should never be an argument for nurse's allowed power level.

There are elements in your post that need to be addressed.

I'm not saying that the nurse is perfect; on this subject, I suggest you look on pages 2 and 3 of the forum, if I'm correct, as well as in the Suggestions category, you will find threads containing very interesting discussions about the nurse (and which go beyond the classic, "The nurse is broken, remove her from the game.")

First of all, you say that every game you play against her ends in, and I quote: "at-least 2 first hook suicides or DC's and no more than 2 people being completed max when people don't leave immediately and actually try".

So let me bring my point of view, based on the games I do as a main nurse.

In any game, whether it is against survivors who are struggling with the nurse, decent, good, or excellent survivors, I encounter very few DC's and/or first hook suicides.

As a main nurse, I "create", in 1 day, many more games [Surv VS nurse] than you play in 1 week, I think.

And I hardly encounter any DC or suicides.

I'm not saying you're lying; however, I question the seemingly obvious "everyone DCs against the nurse".

"She's unplayable in her current state and needs work, why won't devs listen to people?"

It's a shame to generalize like that. The fact that it's an anon implies that the entirety of the elements relating to the nurse are bad.

Which is entirely false.

Again, I invite you to do some research on the forum, and read the discussions that revolve around the reworks proposed by the players, and the discussions that followed these proposals. Very interesting, rich, and mature discussions, that being said.

"Anyone can master her and garuntee a 3k-4k after a few hours of playing her(...)"

This is not true.

A player who has "a few hours" of nannying behind him will indeed be able to get total wins.

Against survivors who don't know how to deal with the nurse, and who have trouble against her, yes, he will eventually be able to kill some of them without too much difficulty.

But put him against an organized, competent team, which doesn't lose a single second, whose members know each other and complement each other perfectly ... and there, I can tell you that your "few hours on the nurse" player will clearly feel that he still has a lot of work to do.

In fact

- if you prevent the nurse from being able to use Starstruck (removal of her TR when she carries a survivor)

- you remove NOED from the game

- you remove the offering maps from the game

it solves a lot of problems (like Agitation /Starstruck on Nurse with Midwich's offering) 😀

This way, you don't have to turn your M1 into an M2 (which wouldn't make sense because it would prevent you from using Sloppy Butcher, K.O., Jolt, etc.).

And as for the "exposed" perk, only Devour hope and MYC (IF used with Floods of rage) are really dangerous on the nurse, and that you can hardly counter.

Used as it is, and alone, MYC is actually one of the easiest "exposed" perks to avoid. Just hide and wait.

The danger is that the killer will come back and, not finding the exposed survivor, will fall back on the newly rescued survivor.

The Haunted Ground hex perks are also very powerful, but in parallel to that, only triggered by a survivor.

If the 4 survivors are in SWF, they all just have to hide, and one of them destroy the totem, then also go hide somewhere, the time to check if it is a Haunted Ground.

With Retribution, I would say it's 50/50.

The killer will go after the nearest survivor, but by the time he hooks him, the 15s of Retribution will have passed. Even with a slug, it wouldn't be enough to get on everyone.

Devour Hope is really the most dangerous exposed perk, because to contain it, you have to find the totem, and if by misfortune the totem is very well hidden, or is located, for example, in a place where there are still many unrepaired generators, the snowball can be terrible 😫

I mean what do you call the hang of? Because everyone knows nurse has the highest skill floor, it's just blights skill ceiling reaches much farther than hers.

If you haven't played Nurse that's all you have to say.

It's okay though, we Nurse mains are here to tell you all about the expirence and the lack of "skill" we use to get these so called "guaranteed 4k's" even though your complaining because a killer doesn't give you easy mode.

1) Blight actually take's precise timing as well, pretty much anything but a shoulder flick can be dodged in some way by a survivor and that timing required for a shoulder flick is precise and it varies based on speed add-ons. Nurse takes muscle memory but the amount of different muscle memory blight uses is a lot more.

2) Going against good survivors, they will be breaking LoS as much a possible if you got caught out in the open vs blight that is his greatest strength and the survivor's fault. Blight not only needs to understand everything spatially(he too plays most tiles his own way) but also the collision of everything in that area, while also needing to read survivor's when they break LoS. Blight takes more knowledge to be actually advanced at.

3) Has nothing to do with skill ceiling, you could just use blight's power to navigate the map and then be a m1 killer

4) Mostly true perks for nurse and add-ons for blight can make this vary.

Predicting a survivors path multiple bumps in advanced while also routing your own path to get there with no LoS is pure bump logic. All of his little techs just take muscle memory which degrade their peak skill by comparison to bump logic.

Make all other killers playable, than complain about Nurse and Blight.

Yeah and I just had 2 people DC against a hillbilly because of insta downs, I'm pretty sure survivors are just wimps and doesn't apply to just nurse

Keep crying. Nurse isn't difficult to play against. You're just bad

Aren´t matches with a dc discounted from the kill rate statistics anymore?

In a vacuum, Nurse is fine. High skill floor, low kill rate amongst general players.

Her problem is when it comes to balancing general killer perks and effects. Perks can't be too strong on Nurse, which typically results in them being too weak on M1 killers.

Some things that could bring her down to the level of other killers without adversely affecting her power fantasy:

1. Make an attack within 1s of a Blink count as a Special Attack. Common suggestion, there are issues, but if it's not 'every attack' and it has this 1s or 0.75s or whatever qualifier, it could work. Still allowing an M1 post blink attack if timed correctly.
2. When stunned, her power charges reset, and she is inflicted with a short 10-15s debuff to power recharge rate so that a charge takes 4 or 5s instead of 3s. This would prevent her from getting another blink immediately after a stun, and would allow more skilled survivors (the ones usually facing the best Nurses) a decent counter to her power.
3. A build-up mechanism, like Oni or Nemesis. Perhaps Nurse starts with 1 Blink charge and 4m/s walking speed. Each unique survivor hooked grants you a 'Stolen Breath' and upon getting 2 or 3 Stolen Breaths you upgrade from 1 Blink to 2 Blinks, and reduces walking speed to 3.85m/s. Add-ons could interact with this mechanism, maybe having a 3rd/4th Stolen Breath unlock the 3rd Blink charge instead of increasing power recharge time. Give 'Stolen Breaths' a UI display so you know which survivors have been 'stolen'.
4. Nerf range add-ons. Green to +2m, Purple to +4m with 40% increased charge time and duration.