Eruption Got A Shadow Buff (Happy SoloQ for all)

I was wondering if this would be mentioned. Its ridiculous that the STRONGEST perk in the game got a 7% min buff. Like why?

Will finally make this perk fair against Prove Thyself that save 6sec per Gen.

Not really the fact its overtuned,its the fact its hard to predict when someone is going down especially in soloq.

They should make it so when you repair a generator with eruption on it,you see the aura of the killer and survivor when they're in a chase.

So you can tell exactly when someone is going down.

Incapacitated is too strong of an effect for how easy the perk is to proc and use effectively.

However, if we remove Incapacitated from the perk, it kills it. If we remove the 10% regression, it kills it.

The perk should be completely redesigned. Maybe you could give it some regression (and a scream) and have it have a Blood Favor effect around the affected generators. Still provides slowdown and it promotes the Killer leaving the hook to chase someone new but it gives essentially zero value if you just camp it out.

Eruption is OP on the strongest killers (most of all Nurse and Blight of course), and it is OP in 3-gen scenarios. The strongest killers need some rebalancing anyway and the devs should also long have looked at making sure maps can't spawn ridiculously tight gen clusters, as well as provide more effective ways to avoid and combat 3-gen scenarios. Another issue with Eruption is that it furthers the divide between SWF (with voice comms) and solo, since the former can semi-reliably avoid getting the worst of it.

On M1 killers however the perk is actually required to be as good as it is in order to make the gen kick meta viable. M1 killers regularly can't afford the time investment of going around kicking gens, at best they have to hope the chase is being led to gens they can then kick mid-chase, or that they can consistently and quickly get injures on people such that they can effectively play hit-and-run. In either case, their chases on average last significantly longer as well, meaning they often won't even get their Eurption to proc before a gen is finished, and this is particularly notable for the 3-gen scenario as well, because survivors that take a hit can use that to run as far away from the gen cluster as possible, and as opposed to a killer like Blight, committing to a chase on that survivor can then mean the loss of the 3-gen. Considering all of this, the powerful effect when Eruption does proc is needed for it to have enough of an impact with M1 killers.

My suggestion for an Eruption adjustment is this: Make it proc only if you down a survivor with a basic attack. Instead of causing the Incapacitated status effect, it blocks all affected gens, no matter whether a survivor had been working on it or not. Increase block duration to 30 seconds. Remove the cooldown.

With this, it obviously stops being as potent on killers that are already very strong (Nurse's blink hits need to be treated as special attacks), and the M1 killers that do have an ability with which to down survivors can at least still decide to use M1 instead. Plus Eruption obviously would remain active until you down a survivor using M1, so it's not like getting downs by other means would waste the perk. The perk blocking gens rather than causing Incapacitated means that SWFs won't be able to counter it and that nobody else can be working on the gen for the duration either. On the flipside, the survivors are free to do other things in that time, and while the generator does continually regress, that will obviously only be relevant after the 30 seconds, because blocked gens do not suffer from continual regression. A cooldown is not really needed, especially since the killer obviously cannot kick those same gens again while they are blocked.

People who don't agree with you aren't "Killer mains", and old DH was more broken than Eruption.

Also, sorry but several talking points brought up here are valid. M1 Killers struggling to apply the perk and struggling to use it effectively, easy counters make perks bad, this isn't a 1v1, etc.

By any chance, what are you thoughts on Pain Res and DMS? Did it need to be nerfed?

I wasn't listing equivalent perks, I was listing possible counters.

If you can see your teammates then you know when they are in a chase, and can roughly predict when they will go down.

That said surviviors also have "perks that stop opponents objective", just think of every exhaustion perk, DS, Unbreakable, etc. not to mention ######### like Boil Over (especially in indoor maps).

You don't need to make a perfect guess to avoid it, letting the gen go for 10 seconds will prevent screaming and save you 15 gen seconds, on top of letting you stop the regression immediately.

It's not weird to compare them, DS is not just a 3 second stun, it completely resets the chase which buys you at least 30 seconds even if you are trash at looping.

Same with the other perks I mentioned, they either increase distance which buys you a lot of time or straight up deny the killer a hook, similarly impeding their objective.

Feels like 70% of the time i don't see where my mates are beeing chased / downed.

Guess i'm gonna try BOND + maybe even Open Handed to at least try to counter Eruption.

As Calm Spirit isn't an option here, right?

The perk will almost certainly get a nerf as it is killing solo queue at present and there is no counter for the weakest role in the game (solo survivor).

I personally am sick to death of Eruption and I am sure I am not alone

Well, does it really?

9sec + regression is the same as Surge, so the only difference is that 25-75s of gen time from incapactitation.

Kicking a gen wastes about extra 5-7 seconds, and considering that killer's time should be multiplied by 3 in this case, the result really doesn't seem that tragic, unless you somehow get all 3 surviviors Erupted.

Kicking a gen doesn't really require a "ton of setup". You can easily kick a gen near a down/hook, before you start a chase, or even during a chase. High mobility killers like Nurse and Blight make this easy but it's viable anywhere. I had a perkless solo queue match today where a demogorgon with the whistle add-on brought us to dead dawg and used CoB/Eruption to hold a 3 gen from the start. Took 25 minutes to break it and only because a teammate had a boon and the killer wasn't amazing at the game. I don't disagree that CoH can be a problem but it's not relevant to the eruption discussion. Solo queue teammates can't even tell if a non-obsession is in chase, and have no way to reliably know when a teammate's going down to get off of the gen without having line of sight on both the killer and the survivor being chased. If it's not meant to be "countered" by getting off, then it needs a duration nerf or a new effect entirely like blocking the gen, because forced 25 seconds of doing nothing for trying to do the objective is not balanced and doesn't feel fun. You can't even always "just go to another gen" to avoid getting incapacitated since killers will often hold 3 gens with this perk and can also apply eruption to every single gen. It makes 3 gen setups miserable and is a pain in the ass to deal with playing solo.