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Why did multiple killers get shadow nerfed?!
For people who don't have a clue what I'm talking about here. After the last big Update the vaulting got changed for a few killers like wesker, legion and some others. Firstly on pallets it's just the window vault Animation and Sound which is really cheap but this is not my point.
My point is that multiple perks like fire up and bambozle are not working anymore together with killers and addons who can increase the vault speed.
That includes
Wraith
Myers tier 3
Wesker
Legion
Others reported it as a bug got told it's not a bug. So they just shadow banned a whole mechanic. Thanks bhvr again for ruining something no one had a problem with and people just had fun with.
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Yeah, its not like it is a big deal to be honest. None of those Killers is ruined, and I can understand the thought process behind this to be honest. Wesker is the second Killer who is able to vault Windows via an ability (after Legion) and so they probably thought that they want to get rid of this in combination with Bamboozle so that they are more free in Design and dont have to balance Killer Powers around the possibility of the Killer having Bamboozle or not.
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I will not pretend like that it is not a pity, but I am also pretty sure that this Bamboozle bonus to vault speed for power abilities was not intended in the first place. They probably just fixed a bug after many years.
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I just think it's funny that they nerfed Legion.
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What I find appalling is the serious talk about "it's not a big deal" and "yet the kill rate is 61%, so it's justified". Those are shifting the argument.
The issue is the shadow nerf. The developers just shadow nerfed it, without a patch note, without a good explanation. Is this sincere? You all know very well that this is not the first time this has happened.
The developer can say that it has been a glitchy situation. (I have said that in the past.) I would certainly criticize them for that with disbelief and doubt, but it is better than a shadow nerf.
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All changes should be openly said to community of any games.
I never understand things like "shadow buff", or "shadow nerf", It's a huge red flag from the developers, which is worrying.
If they changing something - they should always say it in a "Patch notes".
Don't change things "silently" from you community dear developers. It's not good.
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I find it really sad, since the insta vault thing on Myers was hillarious to look at... It was not even good or anything but just funny, so why remove it.
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Wesker didnt get any speed from bamboozle while using his power to vault even before this update.
And that is intended
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Honestly they had no reason to do this,no one complained about killers being able to vault faster by using a perk or power combination.
But I guess random killer nerfs are a thing in this game.
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They pretty much killed these niche builds with that shadow nerf. Wesker didn't even get the bonus speed to vaulting. There were absolutely no problems with these perks, other than the Schroedinger's vault Wraith bug and that was hilarious! BHVR probably knew this wouldn't sit well with the community and decided not to communicate it because of that.
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I just want to hear from them. Why did they do it? Why?
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Wait, they ruined vault wraith and vault Myers... what the heck..
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Same reason why Madness skillchecks aren't affected by Lullaby
I expect that the perks will contain stuff like
-doesn't affect your power
-non-stackable
-no fun allowed
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while i agree that tier 3 + bambozle was overkill against new players , am really dissapointed that BHVR didnt even gave legion an addon to vault windows/pallets more faster since thats his main power , unlike wesker that has that already many stuff basekit and pretty much has less cooldown after vaulting compared to legion , but just killing the perk for legion..? , really BHVR ?
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Cool back to Eruption + CoB then
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Myers has to fit in the No Fun Allowed category because he is just basic vaulting. The slight buffs to his mobility and lunging from Tier III just helps him not be at the rock bottom of the tier list.
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What makes me sad is now I'm looking at less variety in my builds and may as well just run 4 slow downs. Which isn't fun for anyone involved. Sorry survivor's blame bhvr. They took away some more fun.
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Just like shadow dance and locker opening
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The real reason madness isn't affected by lullaby is bc almo couldn't hit the skillchecks
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Doing Madness skillchecks around whiteish walls for extra colorblindness.
I'm awaiting the day Iron Maiden gets it's 50% reloading removed just because two killers are always running it.
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Imagine if they make reloading not count as searching a locker for darkness revealed
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Wow good thing this will totally add to build diversity and not most of the time just replace those slots with an extra slowdown
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Wraith and Myers are actually not affected by these changes.
But I agree, Wesker and Legion should totally benefit from these perks. Imagine if Trickster and Huntress didn't benefit from Iron Maiden.
They're just removing fun perk synergy builds and perk diversity, and it is annoying.
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Before
"We made Ruin regress any gen but you cannot use PGTW on them"
Now
"Call of Brine increases regression speeds but you can use Eruption/Opression/Overcharge-ion for a bit more regress-ion."
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My theory is after Superior Anatomy was making Wraith and Myers vault so fast that their animations were completely bugged out, they first made changes to the vault animation itself (I might be the only one who noticed this its v subtle lol) but I'm also theorising they are standardising vaults related to powers to not be affected by vault related perks
It could just be a bug, but I think they might be intentionally making it so killers who can vault using their power or vault super quickly have a standardised time, either for bug reasons or balance reasons
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