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Why did multiple killers get shadow nerfed?!

For people who don't have a clue what I'm talking about here. After the last big Update the vaulting got changed for a few killers like wesker, legion and some others. Firstly on pallets it's just the window vault Animation and Sound which is really cheap but this is not my point.

My point is that multiple perks like fire up and bambozle are not working anymore together with killers and addons who can increase the vault speed.

That includes

Wraith

Myers tier 3

Wesker

Legion

Others reported it as a bug got told it's not a bug. So they just shadow banned a whole mechanic. Thanks bhvr again for ruining something no one had a problem with and people just had fun with.

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  • Member Posts: 4,634

    I find it really sad, since the insta vault thing on Myers was hillarious to look at... It was not even good or anything but just funny, so why remove it.

  • Member Posts: 5,279

    Wesker didnt get any speed from bamboozle while using his power to vault even before this update.

    And that is intended

  • Member Posts: 1,243

    Honestly they had no reason to do this,no one complained about killers being able to vault faster by using a perk or power combination.

    But I guess random killer nerfs are a thing in this game.

  • Member Posts: 5,963

    They pretty much killed these niche builds with that shadow nerf. Wesker didn't even get the bonus speed to vaulting. There were absolutely no problems with these perks, other than the Schroedinger's vault Wraith bug and that was hilarious! BHVR probably knew this wouldn't sit well with the community and decided not to communicate it because of that.

  • Member Posts: 10,719

    I just want to hear from them. Why did they do it? Why?

  • Member Posts: 590

    Wait, they ruined vault wraith and vault Myers... what the heck..

  • Member Posts: 742

    Same reason why Madness skillchecks aren't affected by Lullaby

    I expect that the perks will contain stuff like

    -doesn't affect your power

    -non-stackable

    -no fun allowed

  • Member Posts: 971

    while i agree that tier 3 + bambozle was overkill against new players , am really dissapointed that BHVR didnt even gave legion an addon to vault windows/pallets more faster since thats his main power , unlike wesker that has that already many stuff basekit and pretty much has less cooldown after vaulting compared to legion , but just killing the perk for legion..? , really BHVR ?

  • Member Posts: 253

    Cool back to Eruption + CoB then

  • Member Posts: 3,572

    Myers has to fit in the No Fun Allowed category because he is just basic vaulting. The slight buffs to his mobility and lunging from Tier III just helps him not be at the rock bottom of the tier list.

  • Member Posts: 592
    edited December 2022

    What makes me sad is now I'm looking at less variety in my builds and may as well just run 4 slow downs. Which isn't fun for anyone involved. Sorry survivor's blame bhvr. They took away some more fun.

  • Member Posts: 3,108

    Just like shadow dance and locker opening

  • Member Posts: 3,108

    The real reason madness isn't affected by lullaby is bc almo couldn't hit the skillchecks

  • Member Posts: 742

    Doing Madness skillchecks around whiteish walls for extra colorblindness.

    I'm awaiting the day Iron Maiden gets it's 50% reloading removed just because two killers are always running it.

  • Member Posts: 3,108

    Imagine if they make reloading not count as searching a locker for darkness revealed

  • Member Posts: 5,804

    Wow good thing this will totally add to build diversity and not most of the time just replace those slots with an extra slowdown

  • Member Posts: 1,096

    Wraith and Myers are actually not affected by these changes.

    But I agree, Wesker and Legion should totally benefit from these perks. Imagine if Trickster and Huntress didn't benefit from Iron Maiden.

    They're just removing fun perk synergy builds and perk diversity, and it is annoying.

  • Member Posts: 742

    Before

    "We made Ruin regress any gen but you cannot use PGTW on them"

    Now

    "Call of Brine increases regression speeds but you can use Eruption/Opression/Overcharge-ion for a bit more regress-ion."

  • Member Posts: 5,362

    My theory is after Superior Anatomy was making Wraith and Myers vault so fast that their animations were completely bugged out, they first made changes to the vault animation itself (I might be the only one who noticed this its v subtle lol) but I'm also theorising they are standardising vaults related to powers to not be affected by vault related perks

    It could just be a bug, but I think they might be intentionally making it so killers who can vault using their power or vault super quickly have a standardised time, either for bug reasons or balance reasons

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