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please stop talking sadako

every time i see anyone talking about her not needing buffs i wanna throw my monitor out of the window

for someone who mains her, let me tell you, you either tryhard or lose

yes she destroys survivors in lower mmr LIKE EVERY KILLER

but in high mmr she is worst than pig, i mean at least pig with certain addons can stop the game if played right, sadako even with her best perks, her condemn is still weak, unless its a small map

do you realize that she has one play style, and that's the slug condemn which neither survivor nor killers likes

and the reason her kill rate is so high is because only the players who main her, play her, just like pinhead and twins, which is still kinda of confusing how people still go along with killrates like they are actually accurate

here is a tip, the less a killer is played the higher its killrate is not that hard to understand, the less sadako is played the higher her killrate since only her mains will play her

but you know, people here look whatever they want, they see a high killrate on sadako but don't see a very low killrate on nurse, i swear by this point maybe people should make a post about nerfing pig or ghostface clearly they are too strong for "casual players" where ever they are

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  • DEMONANCE
    DEMONANCE Member Posts: 861

    pinhead? i believe pinhead is fairly popular not just for his mains..

    as for sadako yeah i agree, her mains are on extreme COPIUM when it comes to how fun/strong she is it's honestly sad.

    a basic m1 killer with no chase ability and limited playstyles is not gonna make her appealing. but i don't think she's gonna get any reworks at best they just gonna buff some of her numbers and call it a day.

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    at least freddy can change up his play style with fake pallets, she got nothin

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    they haven't done a rework in years and they sure as hell won't for a killer that isn't very old, and buffs...well who knows, she might never get buffed or get a very small buff that it won't be even noticeable

  • DEMONANCE
    DEMONANCE Member Posts: 861

    yes, i had that in mind a rework for a very recent killer like this is pretty much not an option and bhvr are really really scared/ hesitant of doing reworks. (for a good reason since a lot of them flopped)

  • HugTechLover
    HugTechLover Member Posts: 2,482

    The kill rates disagree… she literally has the highest kill rate in the top 5% MMR.

  • GenJockeyNance
    GenJockeyNance Member Posts: 697

    But if people stop talking about Sadako, how will there ever be a chance for buffs? Lol

    Jokes aside, I do wish her condemmed did something more. Ring drawing basekit and perhaps passive stacks when in proximity of a TV. Which, those are usually by gens. I don't think it's necessary for me to explain the buff / idea behind this. It's not much but it's a starting point of what could make her better.

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960

    PLEASE STOP GIVING YOUR OPINION!!!

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 23,147

    She does need some buffs.

    But I'm not convinced she's in a super terrible spot. She has one EXTREMELY lethal playstyle.

    I'd change her teleport cooldowns and maybe give her a small movement speed bonus while De-Manifested. Maybe 125% but that's it.

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,619

    I still think that they should assign one TV set to each gen and have her curse protect the gen. In order to start repairing, you have to remove the tape from the corresponding TV set.

    BAM.

    In one fell stroke survivors are forced to interact with her kit and play with tapes and carry them accross the board, giving her some slowdown. This still won`t give her many condemnation kills, but thats ok, her curse would still be a looming threat, like Pigs RBT, that can't be ignored, but won't happen too often.

    I also think that she should have a weaker version of her Iri tape as basekit, ie the last TV set that was shut off turns on again on a sneaky hit.

    Lastly I think that its utter bogus, that the survivors have full, miniscule info of the status of their curses, whilst Sadako only has binary info, ie curses/uncursed and cursed/fully condemned. On most killers this feels dumb, but manageable, but with her it takes away any feeling of urgency or pressure to get rid of ones condemnation.

    She is a cool concept, but her execution is so lackluster, its really sad.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 6,639
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    that's not true. You're confusing the graph from across all MMRs with this one. And even there she doesn't have the highest killrate. Pinhead does.

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  • ImNotBobDylan
    ImNotBobDylan Member Posts: 221

    "but you know, people here look whatever they want, they see a high killrate on sadako but don't see a very low killrate on nurse, i swear by this point maybe people should make a post about nerfing pig or ghostface clearly they are too strong for "casual players" where ever they are"

    Nurse killrate is not low, it's 61% at high MMR. I don't pretend Nurse is OP, but at least have the honesty to understand the problem. The 2 most common nerf requests, are 1) to make blink a special attack to prevent broken combination with Starstruck on Midwich and 2) to nerf range addon. Both of these nerfs are specifically to nerf her at high MMR, so why are you acting like it's such a big thing when most casual Nurse players won't even realize it. Anyway. The "nerf Nurse" threads are targeted for high MMR, and the killrate stats support it. Point invalidated.

    Now, about Sadako's killrate, she has a small silhouette and can become sporadically invisible, as a result I find it especially hard to react to her in tiles that would normally be safe. On top of it my guess is that the undetectable helps her getting free M1's against uncoordinated solo. I think you play only Sadako, so you wouldn't know that, you only see that some survivors play better than you and think it's because your killer is weak, you don't even realize the amount of effort they need to invest just to play a regular mindgame against her. Let's be honest here how often have you played AS SURVIVOR against Sadako? If yes, do you even have a >50% winrate against her?

    This forum is reaching top level of ridicule, the game has never been as easy for killers as it is now, and yet it seems like people will never stop asking for more nonsensical buffs. I can only laugh imagining BHVR see that the top thread is to buff the killer that already has a 61% winrate, lol.

  • HugTechLover
    HugTechLover Member Posts: 2,482

    Ahh you are correct. Regardless, she still has a very good kill rate.

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    if u aren't here to listen or give opinions then what are u doing here to begin with ?

    just being a...., the rules won't allow me to say it so whatever

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    you know that's a pretty neat idea ngl, very creative as well

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    my dude, you can hear her manifest.....yes with a brown addon some mindgames can become hard but running that add you have to tryhard more than usual and the only way to even get a hit or grab on a gen is to manifest wayy before and try it, and even by then u most likely not gonna get anything, i play all low tier killers, and seriously...a killer with no anti loop or anti gen and very weak powers IS NOT WEAK?

    even her stealth is a fail and yes i played against few sadakos do you know what they did, DC

    because why the hell would anyone sweat for a 2k when they can play nurse and end the game in 3 mins

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    that wouldn't be so bad, but still her powers wouldn't be oppressive and honestly that one play style mostly ends up in DC, just watch willie play one game with her and count how many dcs lol

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960
    edited December 2022
  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    because honestly every time i see a post about her its just about how she doesn't need a buff or worst needs a nerf, so tbh i would rather she is left alone then tainted by some random useless buff or nerf that nobody asked for

  • AcelynnBen
    AcelynnBen Member Posts: 1,012

    hmm can't find it here or there, maybe under here, nope

    yea sorry can't find who a-

    imma just stop before i get another warning, if u got an opinion hit me with it, if not i will be ignoring you, have a nice day

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960

    alright, condemn is too slow, right now its easy for survivors to ignore tapes until it too late for it to matter. now go back to ignoring me.

    ps: stop being upset over people you disagree with.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,513

    all killers in graph have equal kill-rate with no order. This was specifically said when they posted the stats. I do not remember if it was peanut or mandy. I just remember reading it.

    Sadako does indeed have highest #1 kill-rate, but pinhead and Wesker share same kill-rate for all mmr. At top 5% MMR, According to the stats, she is #4-9(?) top killer at top 5% MMR despite having a dysfunctional base kit balance. According to these stats, Nurse and Sadako are equally powerful killers.

    This is why kill-rate not that good indicators for killer performance. The fun-factor and overall killer gameplay loop are more important than kill-rate.

  • BrightWolf
    BrightWolf Member Posts: 602

    I really like this idea, and given the ability to reset the TV's/Tapes when she teleports as it gives her some viable gen pressure while also forcing survivors to interact with the TVs.

    I'd also add that they need to reduce the sound she makes when she teleports or demanifests, because she sounds like an oncoming truck. It's too much of a giveaway for a stealth killer and feels like BHVR built in a hand-holding mechanic for survivors who just want to M1 the gens. On top of that, I'd also give her a base-kit 15-20s of aura reading after she teleports so she can have some chance of finding survivors after she clambers out of a TV, especially if said survivor is at maxed condemned status.

  • DashMonsta008XV
    DashMonsta008XV Member Posts: 611

    Everything else but the length of the aura reading, that's way to long 4 secs if added would be fine

  • DashMonsta008XV
    DashMonsta008XV Member Posts: 611

    I also like this idea, survivor's should always feel threatened when Sadako is in a trial

  • BrightWolf
    BrightWolf Member Posts: 602

    Oh yeah I agree 15s is too long 2-5s is probably better, also maybe a slight movement speed buff after teleport to match the aura reading, which would also be 2-5s wich could be extended longer with add-ons.