starstruck nurse

I completely agree. I dont think Nurse herself is busted. But Starstruck and Agitation on her is.

Nurse is not a problem at all. Nurse is one of the few killers that can consistently has a shot against good SWFs. And playing Nurse against good swfs is not always easy, you know? I know a great Nurse can be a pain in the ass to face. But I still dont think she is OP.

Or maybe this just shows that both Nurse and SWF are overpowered compared to the rest of the killers/soloq and both should be adjusted?

Yes. Her power is strong enough already but the fact that it synergizes with so many perks is problematic to the point where she needs a nerf. Block all aura reading while using her power and make her blink attacks special attacks. Also nerf her range addons

Yeah you can't nerf SWF, it's stupid to punish some one because they want to play with a friend. Buff solo to be on par (or as close as possible) to SWF and then nerf survivor in general or buff killer overall, then nerf Nurse if needed. If other killers still need individual buffs then buff them, but no killer will ever be able to compete with Nurse no matter how much you buff them, she needs a nerf, even if it's just a small one like making her blinks M2 attacks.

How is it a starstruck issue if it’s balanced on literally every other killer but her?

When was the last time you even seen starstruck on someone who wasn’t nurse?

let's say nurse runs agitation starstruck and then bbq and floods of rage so she can see people both when outside her terror radius and inside if she is coming back to the hook and the person gets unhooked

when she picks up the survivor all you have to do is just hold W and run away, even if she sees you on BBQ you should have enough time to outlast starstruck by the time she blinks to you for distance and you can outlast at least one 2 blinks attack by using cover (since by holding w you should basically go to somewhere on the map that is not an open area and hide). If someone else is doing the unhooking she will then see you with floods but at that point starstruck will wear off

In case your teammates were dumb enough to unhook immediately (since they were lo also affected by starstruck if they were close enough to the hook) you are all losing the game regardless since Nurse is the most powerful killer (someone has to be) and will capitalize on these basic survivor mistakes far better than everyone else, but that's not a Nurse problem anymore

None of these perks are niche on her and that for good reason. Even supposedly weaker perks like Sloppy and Jolt will become very strong on her. Regarding the 4 slowdown perk combo you mentioned that needs to be fixed by itself. It's not exclusively a Nurse issue.

Yes you do her base power is strong yes but it makes up for her slow speed hence why her blinks are basic attacks. If you change her blinks all to be special then a speed boost must be given so she can get basic attacks in.

I don't believe for one second you play Nurse, or at least at a high enough level.

You'd change your tune pretty fast.

We need to stop butchering the game to balance around 1 killer.

Also, just make her blink attacks not considered normal m1's.

Oh really? Well it might be surprising you that I am in fact a Nurse (and Billy) main. She is also my highest prestige (P42) and what kind of high level are you talking about? Is is depending on the players playtime? Or just the fact that they are a stacked SWF with strong perks and items? Many of the survivors I play against have over 5000h in the gane some even over 10000h. And a lot of teams I go against are SWF with strong loadouts. Now I also have to admit that it's not always the case. Sometimes there are also soloQ players with under 2000h but many of them have a decent amount experience against Nurses and their pathing is strong.

So no. I don't believe for a second that I would change my tune pretty fast even if the teams wil suddeny get better. I know that I'm not the most experienced god like Nurse player but I clearly have played her enough to know what I'm currently capable of.

I simply indicate the easiest and fairest way to prevent the nurse from using Starstruck, that's all 😉

Again, there is no good reason to prevent a nurse from using Sloppy Butcher, K.O. or Jolt if she so chooses.

These are only moderately powerful perks, a far cry from the very oppressive builds the nurse can deploy.

So, the proposal we keep hearing about "changing Nurse's M1 to an M2" is neither relevant nor logical.

If you want to remove the "Starstruck" problem, reduce the TR of the nurse when carrying a survivor.

No more, no less.

As much as I agree on Starstruck, we must not forget that Jolt is controlled by the killer AND by the survivors.

The survivors have a duty to communicate with each other about the location of the generators, the location of the killer, and where they are looping the killer / fixing the generators.

In order to prevent the killer from getting too close to an area where survivors are repairing generators.

Also, it is worth remembering that Jolt no longer has a reload time to prevent survivors from being too greedy on generators and learn a little more to study their strategy rather than stupidly running from generator to generator.

All considerations and analysis of the nurse's power must be made on the assumption that she is facing a team of vocal survivors 😊

Agitation on nurse is trash are you high

Yeah her TR needs to be lowered and a lullaby added. Either that or the perk itself (starstruck) should lower the killers TR so its works best when synergised with other perks. One of her blinks should count as a special attack as well.

Also while I’m at it lol, make it rewarding/more possible to stun her, there’s no incentive to do so now.

You've missed a message in between (which I understand perfectly as I always do that myself)