It's...eh. Tricky.

Especially as I started survivor last year, I know how bloody miserable it can be to depip because someone stuck to you all game from word one. I feel a little gross doing that, especially when I see in postgame that they brought streamers and pretty chill perks.

On the other hand, with gen speeds honestly faster than they were before 6.1.0 at times (frigging stake out and hyperfocus man), if you play nice you could easily get destroyed.

I'll generally play hard from the start and if I'm stomping, I'll ease up, let them get some gens and heals then finish them.

People like this get mad because they have zero ability of seeing things from the perspective of another person. A lot of people in this world think that everything revolves around them and their enjoyment of life and fail to consider anything or anyone else. They get upset if they don’t have fun, but they could not care less if you have fun.

You should play however you want and not feel bad about it as long as you are not intentionally going out of your way to ruin another player’s experience. As you said, survivors are going to do everything in their power to win - using the best items and add-ons, abusing broken loops, using comms to talk to other survivors and play way more efficiently - so you should never feel bad about playing the way that puts you in the best position to win. Often that means tunneling one or more players out of the match.

There's only 1 solution to Tunnelling, Camping and Gen Rush/Slowdown. Redesign the game so that things are either Balanced and/or Impossible.

Tunneling is absolutly boring gameplay. No Killer tunnels because they want to, they do it because they feel it's their only chance at having Time to play.

The solution is simple, redesign the game so tunneling doesn't need to exist.

Camping someone to death is the exact same issue as tunneling, it's boring gameplay. Solution is to make it so Camping doesn't need to exist.

Gen Rush and Gen Slowdown are the Biggest Problem DbD has ever had, it was there even way before we ever started considering it.

The way Survivors interact with Gens is very overwhelming for Killers and the way killers can OVERSTACK Slowdown is way too overwhelming for Survivors.

The Solution is very obvious Redesign how players on both sides interact with Gens.

IT doesn't matter how manny excuses we make as a Community to justify how people play. IT simply up to the Devs to just make the game healthier.

And making the game healthier starts with admitting where you've failed to develop the game properly. As hard as it might be, that's the first and single most important step.

The game is underdeveloped in every area that affects gameplay and trying to use Perks to fix something is a really bad solution. Maps are not Balanced, in any sense, spawns of players, spawns of objectives, spawns of loops and the strength of the loops.

The power creep between Killers themselves is such a gigantic issue. Nurse is and always has and always will be the very best killer in the game and that would be fine if the difference between her and everybody else wasn't a gigantic whole that no other killer will ever be able to leap through... How can you justify Trappers strength level when compared to Nurse? The chances of you getting a match with Trapper where you feel like a powerful useful killer are pratically 0% where if you were playing Nurse the chances of you feeling like the killer can do something are very high because the power disparity between the two is that high.

The Divide between SoloQ and SWF needs to be handled but it's not in the way of Free Information. SoloQ players will still be SoloQ players and completly left to their interpretation of events when compared to a SWF. HUD icons don't change this. SWFing means you are playing with people that you trust. This fact alone is such a gigantic relief when compared to SoloQ where you basicly expect everyone to screw you over at any moment in every match.

HUD ICONS won't make me trust any of the other 3 players more than i do now. I still gotta play like i'm the best survivor in the match or else...And the other 3 still have to play the exact same way.

The solution is simple, redesign your game so a single survivor is pretty much useless but when together then they start to aproach the killer power level. Redesign it so survivors need each other, so they have to trust each other cause right now i don't need to trust any of them. I can get hatch escape or killer mercy.

I can hide all match and not help and still benefit. I can do all the work and die and someone who didnt do much can get an escape.

Make Survivor a matter of team effort then you'll see a change in how survivors play and behave, not only towards each other but towards killers aswell.

DbD was fun the first month i've played it back in 2019 but since then it's just going downhill and for nearly 4 years i haven't seen the devs worried about anything. They just release whatever Hype Licensed Content and people flock in everytime. Then the interest dies cause nothing changes really, everything is the same old problems and the player count tanks like there's a blackhole sucking players out of DbD. Nearly 4 years of the same cycle, 2020 and 2021 were really goddamn miserable with terrible chapter after terrible chapter and the game just not even working on the biggest chapter of it's history, the RE Chapter 1. Console players couldn't play the game at all, Nemesis is an unispired design, og RPD was an absolute abomination (not that the now 2 existing RPDS are any better, they're 3 gen paradise). There's tons of evidence of things never changing.

Look at how the META didn't even change, Killers are still all in on Gen regression and survivors are still all in on gen progress and second chances.

BT was made base kit and Tunneling rates are even higher. That's a gigantic .50 cal sniper shot on your own foot. DS nerfed to the ground and tunneling rates went up.

What more evidence do you people need!?

I can go on... Ruin and Pop were nerfed to the ground but it's the same meta for killers. Manny will argue it's even worse now because killers don't even need to protect a Totem or get Hooks to get good regression they can just kick gens over and over and stall matches instead of playing.

What more evidence do you need!?

Badly developed Game that's all and that would be ok if it wasn't 6 years later but it is 6 years later...And all we see is players attacking eachother and BHVR not doing anything about it.

MMR was a bad call but they'll never admit it or move away from it. THe HUD changes were insignificant, the LOCOMOTION changes were insignificant, the new HUD icons will be insignificant.

THE META CHANGES WERE INSIGNIFICANT.

The problem is the the base game is as Gordon Ramsay would angrily say F*CKING RAW! IT's underdeveloped, not properly thought about. It's basicly a science experiment at high school level that has been going for 6+ years...

Final Fantasy 14 was so bad but they realized it, took it back and made it one of the best games you could be playing right now...

I think it would be interesting if BHVR tested out the following:

1. Basekit Endurance after unhook changed to invincibility + collision removed (to prevent bodyblocking for allies) for 15s as long as Exit Gates are not powered. If Exit Gates are powered, is Endurance + collision removed.
2. Hooking a survivor that isn’t the most recently unhooked one gives an additional reward
   1. Maybe like IDK, automatically damages most progressed gen by X%/damages all gens by some lower Y%/etc.
3. Leaving 24m or so area of the hook gives additional reward as long as you stay out of those 24m UNLESS you’re in chase
   1. Maybe like IDK, basekit temporary Ruin-like effect to reward pressuring survivors off other gens, or BBQ aura style effect to give next place to chase, etc.
4. Nerf/readjust slowdown perks and whatever else necessary to match