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Since when was playing the games you queued up for a controversial ask?

Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306
edited January 2023 in General Discussions

Title.

My memory might not be what it used to be, granted, but I don't remember the last time just asking you to stay in the match you queued up in a multiplayer game for was an unpopular thing to do. Not when the game was hilariously more broken, or more unfun, or when the REALLY stupid stuff wasn't fixed and everyone was pulling out 1 gen hatch escapes and old Ruindying or old Spirit or old Moris or anything like that.

I don't remember people having such a consensus it was their god-given right to suicide on hook the absolute moment something went slightly wrong for them. Or that asking them to not have the ability to circumvent the DC penalty that we ostensibly have for an actual reason is a breach of moral conduct.

I risk sounding a little bit heartless when I say this, but I really don't care if you stop having fun in the middle of the match. I honestly don't.

You queued up for a game of Dead by Daylight. You, apparently, know what you're playing. You know what to expect. You know what could go wrong. You may, even, have made peace with the fact that something you might not like could happen. Like, say, losing.

In this game with no backfills and DC penalties that we ostensibly have for an actual reason, I have the controversial opinion that, as an adult (hopefully), you should have the self-responsibility to know what you actually want to do and what you're okay with happening when you do things with other people.

If you don't, and you demand people open the door for you on the way out the millisecond something you don't like happens, you demonstrate that you have the self-governing skills of an actual child who can't be responsible for their own actions and doesn't care about how much of their own and everyone else's time they waste as long as they don't have to actually commit to something.

It's the 'ol shopping cart test. We apparently can't make you do anything at any sort of inconvenience to yourself unless we literally force you to.

Is this a long and silly and overly-serious rant about a video game that doesn't matter? Absolutely. But the mindset behind this silly and unimportant action is what crinkles my crundle. That you apparently can't and won't be responsible for yourself.

Anyway funny silly rant over.

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  • JustWhimsical
    JustWhimsical Member Posts: 590

    Literally tried playing today and had 2 teammates DC, 1 after being hooked and the other shortly after I was watching and it was because the killer waited out the hooked players dead hard lol. It wasn't even a killer that people really hate on it was just an Oni, people in this game can be really awful.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 3,078
  • tippy2k2
    tippy2k2 Member Posts: 5,197

    Who am I Superman?!?!?

  • SmolBlob
    SmolBlob Member Posts: 399
    edited January 2023

    Unfortunately, there will be pathetic and selfish players with equally pathetic and selfish excuses for their behavior. The ability to suicide on hook needs to be removed entirely.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    I get people reaching a frustration level where they just don't care. That said Holy ######### there have been alot of DC/first hook suicides lately.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    Assuming that they don't do this every time they have a bad match it's hard to say. Personally Clown's bottles hurt my eyes. If I'm not the only one with this issue that could be a cause of some of them. At least that's one possibility.

  • SmolBlob
    SmolBlob Member Posts: 399

    And removing the hook suicide option so there is no stupid loophole around the penalty.

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    I am quite frankly in a state of total disbelief that you of all people would take umbrage with this post.

  • kingcarl2012
    kingcarl2012 Member Posts: 1,710

    It depends I am against early suicides but at the same time every match has a breaking point where the time your investing isnt worth the stress of the match.

    If I play killer and am getting destroyed sitting with 1 or 2 hooks and 4 gens done, I will gladly afk at the gate till the gens are done and open it and walk away, there is literally no point in continuing that match.

    If I get Hooked in a game and the killer has 6 hooks 1 dead and we still need to do all 5 gens, and my teammates are doing nothing, same thing match is basically over anyways

  • Audiophile
    Audiophile Member Posts: 319

    No. I’m dealing with the reality of this game and suggesting that the solution requires that killers take some responsibility for their role in all the quitting. Stop playing the OPAF stuff. Am I suggesting killers do something they don’t want to do? Yes. Is it a reasonable solution that would probably reduce quitting? Yes. Games are not fair for solo survivors. Most games (90%) are solos or a 2 man swf. Solos vs the OPAF stuff described almost ALWAYS LOSE. What’s the killer proposal? Suck it up and keep losing so we can keep winning our easy games. You guys offer no solutions based on reality. You just whine about the quitters and want harsher penalties. Anything to keep the game as it is. I’m suggesting you take matters into your own hands and self-correct the game by making it fairer for survivors by not playing your strongest stuff. Try it for a week. I guarantee if you stick with it you’ll get longer, more enjoyable games with less quitting.

  • th3syst3m
    th3syst3m Member Posts: 394

    That's one way to think of it, another would be it's a form of protest. Really this has been a problem forever and the devs have done nothing to fix it. So maybe these kind of posts should be directed at the devs and not the players. It should be obvious by now that the players just don't give a #########.

  • Audiophile
    Audiophile Member Posts: 319

    It’s always disappointing to engage with people on these forums that just twist words to try to win a debate rather than actually solve a problem. You all KNOW what I’m saying but you want to skew it to make it look like something else. I didn’t say ‘don’t try to win’. I said you need to recognize that the game is unfair for the vast majority of survivors when the most OP killers and builds are used. This is responsible for the majority of quitting. If you want to reduce the quitting stop playing those OP killers and builds. Play a killer that is more challenging to win with. If you’re a good killer you’ll still do fine but probably not 4k 80-90% of the time.

    ”OMG!!!! DO something I don’t HAVE to do, that would make the game more difficult??? OMG You are stupid and insane!!” There. I answered for some of you.

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    "Handling" in this case is just not DCing.

    You don't need to smile and titter at that silly rascal that just BM'd you for 30 minutes. You just need to not DC early. That's it. That's all the expectation is.

    Just don't make things worse if it's so damn bad.

  • Audiophile
    Audiophile Member Posts: 319

    Yeah sorry. I don’t believe your “testing”. There is zero chance that quitting is just as high for Trapper as Nurse or Blight. ZERO. Re: Flan or Mori… I don’t think anyone bases whether they stay or quit on that. No one really cares.

  • Audiophile
    Audiophile Member Posts: 319

    Just giving you a heads up that I’m not even going to bother responding to you. You don’t understand and I’m not wasting my time. I’m quitting. ; )

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,781

    I mean, the worst to me isn't in-game BM.

    It's the DDoS's, the racists who only kill minority Survivors and then boast about it, some of the TTV's who witchhunt people, the cheaters who hold you hostage.

    Somebody slugging me for a while while Wraith bonging me, it's whatever. Annoying? Yeah. Childish? Sure. Will I DC? I won't and you shouldn't, but I'd understand. Will I stick around for his victory lap? Nah, I'm gonna make some food or something.

  • Stabby_Widdershins
    Stabby_Widdershins Member Posts: 485

    Whenever I see someone boast like that on their steam profile, I make it a point to report their profile.

    And if Steam says 'We took action', I check; If nothing changed, I report again. And again. And again. Until I get a mod who actually does something about it.

    Thankfully, their profiles usually end up wiped clean by a mod within a try or two. They still WORK (Sadly), but the mod removes all offending comments.

  • LuthirFontaine
    LuthirFontaine Member Posts: 375

    Alright killers then stop complaining up a storm a out dead hard or whatever survivor perk you guys hate

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    Cheaters and actual criminals are such an outrageous outliers that a DC penalty should be the least of your issues in these scenarios.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,781

    The guy I saw the other month had hundreds of pages of comments on his profile, literally thousands of "X characters killed" and screenshots of people getting upset with him in the EGC.


    I really don't know how he's still around. Maybe he's friends with Gaben or something idk seems ridiculous

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