Why are survivors bringing items?
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I used to never bring anything now I've got so much stuff that I bring something regardless just so I can waste it6
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The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.
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@Orion said:
The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.Well the problem is I've got a stockpile of items and so I ry and waste them and killers complain about entering the lobby with an item not equipped.
I come into the lobby with an item equipped and even when I'm the only person with an item it's instant dodge it's like make up your mind.
If they want no items or addons then they shouldn't bring mori's or use addons either and yes I know about the power difference.
Which it's funny because killers that play perkelsss and addon less play better than those with full loadouts.
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Me too (have too much items) and yes some killers bring mori's and insta add ons but still 4 toolboxes are too much.1
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Why do killers even use addons? Every game is basically a free win just with 2 perks.. Wth..
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@Eveline said:
You can hardly depip without anything even with bad perks. Where is the fun in 4 toolboxes when someone doesn't even have ruin? I never bring any items as a survivor. I search boxes true but they are random at least and no add ons for me.Why killers use addons? where is the fun to play against a omega blink nurse when survivor are baby dwights?, I never run omega blink nurse as killer, I get these addons in the blood web true but i just dont use it, no crutch and unbalanced things for me
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When I play survivor, which is less and less lately, I bring whatever item fits the offering I'm tossing up. Objective - Toolbox; Altruism - Healer Kit; Boldness - Map; I hate using anything rare because that is a call for a camper/tunneling killer. If I use a Cake, guarantee it is a 3v1 camper. Use a streamer - infinite loading screen. Bleh - Survivor is less and less fun with each new bug.
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Arroz said:
@Eveline said:
You can hardly depip without anything even with bad perks. Where is the fun in 4 toolboxes when someone doesn't even have ruin? I never bring any items as a survivor. I search boxes true but they are random at least and no add ons for me.Why killers use addons? where is the fun to play against a omega blink nurse when survivor are baby dwights?, I never run omega blink nurse as killer, I get these addons in the blood web true but i just dont use it, no crutch and unbalanced things for me
I don't use op add ons only in KYF.0 -
@Eveline said:
You can hardly depip without anything even with bad perks. Where is the fun in 4 toolboxes when someone doesn't even have ruin? I never bring any items as a survivor. I search boxes true but they are random at least and no add ons for me.Some people enjoy making others feel bad
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@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.Well the problem is I've got a stockpile of items and so I ry and waste them and killers complain about entering the lobby with an item not equipped.
I come into the lobby with an item equipped and even when I'm the only person with an item it's instant dodge it's like make up your mind.
If they want no items or addons then they shouldn't bring mori's or use addons either and yes I know about the power difference.
Which it's funny because killers that play perkelsss and addon less play better than those with full loadouts.
I fear you have already gained a bad reputation in that case. No killer will dodge a lobby just because there is 1 single item in it, he would never find a game
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.Well the problem is I've got a stockpile of items and so I ry and waste them and killers complain about entering the lobby with an item not equipped.
I come into the lobby with an item equipped and even when I'm the only person with an item it's instant dodge it's like make up your mind.
If they want no items or addons then they shouldn't bring mori's or use addons either and yes I know about the power difference.
Which it's funny because killers that play perkelsss and addon less play better than those with full loadouts.
I fear you have already gained a bad reputation in that case. No killer will dodge a lobby just because there is 1 single item in it, he would never find a game
Well I'm somewhat notorious for my totem cleansing so I get dodged a lot just due to my name so I have to change it. But as far as outfits go I've not played as a P3 Claudette in ages, I use the default cosmetics most of the time.
Some killers also don't like me because I won't go running in plain sight to get an unhook when they're camping. They want someone easy in their lobbies not someone that plays sneakily and doesn't go for the stupid stuff.
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I'm always bringing the crappiest items I have to bait Franklins (aka, Killer wasting 1 Perk Slot).
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Let me re-frame your question. Why would my opponent do something to help him or herself win? Seems like a silly question now huh?
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You can win without items unless you suck.0
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Probably because most survivors have huge stockpiles of items from BloodWebs and the new Chests. God I wish the killer add ons I use regularly were as abundant so i could stick to a build i like.
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@Eveline said:
You can win without items unless you suckNice bait.
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The question is If they have a toolboxes why not use them?
If it's part of the game and within the rules every item, perk, offering, add-on is fair game.
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I'm sorry.Dreamnomad said:@Eveline said:
You can win without items unless you suckNice bait.
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As mentioned, unless you're using bp to level up other characters, your main will get items faster than you can use them. I often bring a common/uncommon item just to get rid of them, only to get 2 or 3 more after I spend the match's bp...0
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They've got no reason not to. They have items, if they don't take them they're just going to sit there collecting dust. Not everyone is amazing at the game and able to survive no problem every time. If they go up against a good killer they might struggle, and the item might help them out.
It's basically like me asking, "Why do killers bring add-ons? I can kill people without them." There's no reason not to bring them if you've got them.
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@Peanits said:
They've got no reason not to. They have items, if they don't take them they're just going to sit there collecting dust. Not everyone is amazing at the game and able to survive no problem every time. If they go up against a good killer they might struggle, and the item might help them out.It's basically like me asking, "Why do killers bring add-ons? I can kill people without them." There's no reason not to bring them if you've got them.
So do i have your permission to bring Frank Tape+ Cold Dirt and an ebony? 8-)
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Because they like winning in 5-6 minutes if there are more than two toolboxes and not Ruin.
they also have the impudence to think they are good teabagging at the gates after a hard rush. The typical survivor main with his biased opinion will say to you "that are items intended to be used, don't dodge blah blah blah blah".0 -
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@Peanits said:
They've got no reason not to. They have items, if they don't take them they're just going to sit there collecting dust. Not everyone is amazing at the game and able to survive no problem every time. If they go up against a good killer they might struggle, and the item might help them out.It's basically like me asking, "Why do killers bring add-ons? I can kill people without them." There's no reason not to bring them if you've got them.
So do i have your permission to bring Frank Tape+ Cold Dirt and an ebony? 8-)
You don't really need my permission, they're in the game, go for it. Have the time of your life and use your add-ons and offerings like they're going out of style.
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Exactly. I get sick of the whiny killers crying about surv items. I get sick of whiny servs crying about killer perks like NOED.twistedmonkey said:The question is If they have a toolboxes why not use them?
If it's part of the game and within the rules every item, perk, offering, add-on is fair game.
Survs have an advantage already, but the items are in the game. Get over it.3 -
I mean, I enjoy my toolboxes and medkits. Keys if I have them. I also don't really care if Survivors want to use items when I'm killing them.2
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@Peanits said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@Peanits said:
They've got no reason not to. They have items, if they don't take them they're just going to sit there collecting dust. Not everyone is amazing at the game and able to survive no problem every time. If they go up against a good killer they might struggle, and the item might help them out.It's basically like me asking, "Why do killers bring add-ons? I can kill people without them." There's no reason not to bring them if you've got them.
So do i have your permission to bring Frank Tape+ Cold Dirt and an ebony? 8-)
You don't really need my permission, they're in the game, go for it. Have the time of your life and use your add-ons and offerings like they're going out of style.
So you don't play the game, got it.
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How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.Orion said:The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.
If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.9 -
@Nickenzie said:
Orion said:
The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.
If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
Some survivor items and add-ons are super unbalanced. They are in the game, so the survivors are allowed to bring them. But it's also totally fine if a killer chooses to not play against certain items as long as these things don't get reworked.
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Couldn't the same be said for Moris and OP killer add-ons? Survivors deal with the same stuff as well so it's not just the killers who deal with this issue. Yes, I understand where you are coming from about harsh matches too but not everything is gonna be a cake walk for you killers either, you'll have to get your hands dirty eventually (just like survivors as well). Furthermore, OP survivor items isn't always an excuse, sometimes it was actually your fault for losing a match which leads to my second point. You got to have a growth mindset, not a fixed mindset or else you'll never improve as a killer. To visualize this, dodging gives you a 0% chance to improve while at least attempting will show you your mistakes which can be used later to improve. Therefore, the next time you see a SWF, try your best and don't worry so much about losing. Then after the trial, self reflect on how you did and I'll promise you that killer games will be a lot more easier!NoShinyPony said:@Nickenzie said:
Orion said:
The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.
If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
Some survivor items and add-ons are super unbalanced. They are in the game, so the survivors are allowed to bring them. But it's also totally fine if a killer chooses to not play against certain items as long as these things don't get reworked.
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Simple. They get enjoyment out of bullying the Killer and making sure they don't have fun at all.
@Bongbingbing said:
Probably because most survivors have huge stockpiles of items from BloodWebs and the new Chests. God I wish the killer add ons I use regularly were as abundant so i could stick to a build i like.The winter bloodwebs for Killers should have stayed like how the increased item rarity from chests did, but I wouldn't be surprised if Survivors whined their asses off and review bombed the game until the Killer bloodwebs were reverted back to normal.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
Simple. They get enjoyment out of bullying the Killer and making sure they don't have fun at all.@Bongbingbing said:
Probably because most survivors have huge stockpiles of items from BloodWebs and the new Chests. God I wish the killer add ons I use regularly were as abundant so i could stick to a build i like.The winter bloodwebs for Killers should have stayed like how the increased item rarity from chests did, but I wouldn't be surprised if Survivors whined their asses off and review bombed the game until the Killer bloodwebs were reverted back to normal.
Or as most survivors do they're trying to actually survive and use those items they've spent their HARD EARNED bloodpoints on. They're not trying to use some made up excuse so that killers can dodge because they want a farming simulator.
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@powerbats said:
@SnakeSound222 said:
Simple. They get enjoyment out of bullying the Killer and making sure they don't have fun at all.@Bongbingbing said:
Probably because most survivors have huge stockpiles of items from BloodWebs and the new Chests. God I wish the killer add ons I use regularly were as abundant so i could stick to a build i like.The winter bloodwebs for Killers should have stayed like how the increased item rarity from chests did, but I wouldn't be surprised if Survivors whined their asses off and review bombed the game until the Killer bloodwebs were reverted back to normal.
Or as most survivors do they're trying to actually survive and use those items they've spent their HARD EARNED bloodpoints on. They're not trying to use some made up excuse so that killers can dodge because they want a farming simulator.
You're right, I only took the toxic Survivors into consideration here. I should've also included the nontoxic ones.
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@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
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This is a good bait thread. Let me say that you literally have Franklins to get rid of them #########. You got Nurse or Spirit to flat out dominate them and you can pressure gens with overwhelming presence Doctor.
This has got to be the dumbest thread ive seen in a while.
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@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
If a killer dodges over someone bringing in items then they shouldn't really be playing at high ranks.
I'm still waiting for the day that Deja Vu becomes considered a toxic genrushing perk.
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@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
So bringing in items means it's ok to dodge, well then survivors should get to see what items killers bring so they can dodge too. The dodging is an excuse plain and simple and killers doing it just want a farming simulator and easy matches plain and simple.
The ones defending killers doing it are just as bad, it's like a child misbehaving but because some aunts and uncles defend the misbehavior the child thinks it's ok.
Let's be honest here the whole 4 man swf swat teams are rare, yes they exist but they seem to exist a lot more as figments of some killers imaginations to be used whenever they play badly.
I play most solo survivor when I'm doing that side and I see 1 person join with an item or i do and it's instant dodge even when it's a tb or medkit or even gasp a spooky medkit.
The bottom line is if killers are going to dodge items then they should go play a different game like farming simulator. If the lobby has 4 items well you've got Franklin's Demise. Don't have that well go buy it like the rest of us did or get it out of the shrine.
Since everyone else that's had that problem has done one of those 2 things if they wanted the items that badly.
The only legitimate reason to dodge is for excessive ping since it's not fair to either side and if killers would stop dodging they'd get better.
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@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
If a killer dodges over someone bringing in items then they shouldn't really be playing at high ranks.
I'm still waiting for the day that Deja Vu becomes considered a toxic genrushing perk.
Indeed, they shouldn't, but they do, so we can either acknowledge the reality and wait for the devs to fix it, or we can ignore it and feel self-righteous while we sit in lobbies for 30 minutes waiting for a ######### trial.
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@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
So bringing in items means it's ok to dodge
That's not what I said. When you read and reply to what I said, let me know.
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Ruin is actual aids infused pancreatic necro cancer. That is all.
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Now this is some high quality baitVancold said:Why do killers even use addons? Every game is basically a free win just with 2 perks.. Wth..
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@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
If a killer dodges over someone bringing in items then they shouldn't really be playing at high ranks.
I'm still waiting for the day that Deja Vu becomes considered a toxic genrushing perk.
Indeed, they shouldn't, but they do, so we can either acknowledge the reality and wait for the devs to fix it, or we can ignore it and feel self-righteous while we sit in lobbies for 30 minutes waiting for a [BAD WORD] trial.
Devs really just need to fix genrushing and nerf Deja Vu to make sure it doesn't become an issue
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@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
If a killer dodges over someone bringing in items then they shouldn't really be playing at high ranks.
I'm still waiting for the day that Deja Vu becomes considered a toxic genrushing perk.
Indeed, they shouldn't, but they do, so we can either acknowledge the reality and wait for the devs to fix it, or we can ignore it and feel self-righteous while we sit in lobbies for 30 minutes waiting for a [BAD WORD] trial.
Devs really just need to fix genrushing and nerf Deja Vu to make sure it doesn't become an issue
I don't know why you think your attitude helps.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
Simple. They get enjoyment out of bullying the Killer and making sure they don't have fun at all.@Bongbingbing said:
Probably because most survivors have huge stockpiles of items from BloodWebs and the new Chests. God I wish the killer add ons I use regularly were as abundant so i could stick to a build i like.The winter bloodwebs for Killers should have stayed like how the increased item rarity from chests did, but I wouldn't be surprised if Survivors whined their asses off and review bombed the game until the Killer bloodwebs were reverted back to normal.
I was 100% expecting them to keep those bloodwebs, Kind of dissapointing that they didn't even ackowledge the positive feedback from killers but went ahead and added in the rarity increase in chests since survivors liked it.
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@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
If a killer dodges over someone bringing in items then they shouldn't really be playing at high ranks.
I'm still waiting for the day that Deja Vu becomes considered a toxic genrushing perk.
Indeed, they shouldn't, but they do, so we can either acknowledge the reality and wait for the devs to fix it, or we can ignore it and feel self-righteous while we sit in lobbies for 30 minutes waiting for a [BAD WORD] trial.
Devs really just need to fix genrushing and nerf Deja Vu to make sure it doesn't become an issue
I don't know why you think your attitude helps.
I don't think it helps, but I try to stay positive anyway.
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Why are you in jail then? -.-1
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Any killer in general who dodges over an item is just a bad sport, scratch that, a very bad sport, this also applies to survivors who DC over the killer's stuff as well, not just killers. It's like playing a ball game but you're getting upset over the other team because they are using their best pitcher. That's how dodging is, you're basically can't take the challenge and get yourself dirty.Orion said:@Nickenzie said:
How amazing is that survivors CAN'T bring their stuff when killers CAN. @Orion, my man, this is so childish because you're forcing survivors to play by your imaginary rules or else they can't play survivor.If you have any counter points, go ahead and use them because I'll shoot them down. There's no debate when it comes to lobby dodging over something this frivolous.
I don't like to be dodged just because you'd rather ignore the reality that bringing in items makes killers dodge, regardless of them being justified in doing so or not. I like that you're speaking to me as if I'm the one dodging when playing killer, even though I don't dodge because of items when I play killer and was speaking from a survivor PoV.
Additionally, I wasn't just speaking to you, I was speaking to everyone to make my point clear, namely, dodging a survivor's item is childish. This is why I don't feel as bad for some killers when they get survivors who DC over their stuff because they also dodged survivors who wanted to use their stuff as well. Honestly, DCing is almost as bad as lobby dodging and the only thing that keeps me from advocating dodging penalties is because there are times where you have to dodge (family stuff, high ping, life, etc).1 -
Wait.... what? LOL. So because Killers choose to dodge for a toolbox add-on Survivors shouldn't bring them? Can somebody link me a list of all the new rules in Dead By Daylight? This is a new one. I don't ever dodge, especially not for toolboxes 😂Orion said:The worst part is that they know it often makes killers dodge, but they do it anyway. It's like a kid putting his hand on a stove after burning himself five times.
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Bring whatever you want. Game is game.1
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@Unicorn said:
Wait.... what? LOL. So because Killers choose to dodge for a toolbox add-on Survivors shouldn't bring them? Can somebody link me a list of all the new rules in Dead By Daylight? This is a new one. I don't ever dodge, especially not for toolboxes 😂Maybe you should read what was actually written, because you're replying to something I didn't say.
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