If you're going to give up on first hook.....

Wish they could make hook suiciding reportable. It'd be pretty easy if they could review matches and see them early game. But bhvr don't have the manpower.

This right here!! 100% agree

Nah. People actually rarely dc or suicide vs me. I also get very little salt. It may be because I play at a time when I will naturally get matched better, but I guarantee the average doctor player gets dcs more than me. even in the rare games I run alch ring it's still uncommon to see a DC for me. People actually like playing vs blight if he's not tunneling or running the best build + add-ons generally.

Yes you can, why do you think DCing gives penalties untill you suddenly can't play the game anymore.

This argument is very flawed. Nobody is forcing them to start the game. They do that themself. People who start a game are socially forced to finish it all the time

Imagine going to see a soccer match and one team gets a goal against them early and they just quit. They would recieve serious repricutions for that. Even among friends they would suddenly not be allowed to play anymore if it happens too much

People who quit the game out of petty reasons like that can and should be prohibited from playing the game for a certain time. It's a extremely associal thing to do.

And when you need to quit for a emergency the pentalty doesn't matter cause you have to deal with the emergency

Self unhooking outside of perks that guarantee it should just be removed. It's just used as a way to avoid the penalty that is clearly there for a reason

I don't think it should be possible to do so but that is reasonable.

And in any decent game you will be filtered out of the queue pool for a certain amount of time for it, except DBD survivor with their little circumvent.

it is only acceptable if your going against a pro nurse

I never said people should be able to do that out of petty reasons, so don't put words in my mouth first of all. And no, you cannot FORCE people to stay in a game, this isn't a dictatorship. By ready-ing up you're willing to play a game, and have a good time, it's not a signed contract.

Your comparison is ridiculous at best, a soccer match wherein people have signed a contract and do it for a living has nothing to do with a person playing A GAME in their free time.

There are even Luck offerings that go hand-in-hand with the 4% unhook chance, so some people do it because they know they might unhook themselves that way. That being said, I know some people who love this game, but due to personal reasons cannot mentally handle going against a killer like the Doctor, and who are you to tell others that they should be forced to play something they can't.

For the record, I never said that I agree the fact that people should do this, I said I UNDERSTAND why some do it, something a lot of you guys clearly aren't capable of or can't even comprehend.

You gotta love the hoops people will jump to try and justify disconnecting lol.

But they queued up for the game? Most pvp games will not allow this behaviour and ban people for it after a number of times. Survivors get nothing for suicides and everyone gets a slap on the wrist for multiple DC's.

First, For someone who keeps bringing up people not comprehending stuff you certainly didn't read all the way through where i said that the same applies when playing with friends.

If you play soccer or anything at all with friends and you quit the moment you aren't ahead then most people will suddenly not be willing to play with you anymore if it happens often enough.

Second, i never said you said people shouldn't do it for petty reasons, i said that. Don't use the argument "putting words in my mouth" when that isn't happening.

And yeah ofcourse you can't prohibit them from leaving, there are cases where you need to. I'm saying leaving too much should be penalised. Like what happens with DC's. The whole problem with suiciding on hook is that it circumvents that

The problem is that it's so common. Nobody would be complaining about the 1 in 100 matches where a person can't handle the killer mentally or somebody has an emergency pop up. Nobody is blaming them. It's the fact that it happens every other match and it is because of petty reasons 95% of the time.

You're understanding the few people who the finger isn't even pointed at here. For those people the quit game button and dc penalty starting of low exist

Same thing here, nobody cares about the survivors quiting when there are 3 left with 4 gens still up. It's the ones who quit within the first minute. I would gladly see a surrender option for survivors if the easy way out that avoids the penalty is removed

Ah yes the old false equivalent.

"They can’t force a killer to not camp, tunnel and slug."

Would be equal to

"killer can't force survivor to not play in a stacked swf, gen rush or play unhookable Sabo bully squad"

All things part of the gameplay loop.

DCs ARE NOT.

If you can't stomaches everything within the gameplay loop that might come your way? Don't queue up and inconvience the people that can.

And if you still decide to selfishly DC? Rightfully eat the stacking penalty.

I don't see many in my games at all, not enough that it annoys me or directly impacts my overall enjoyment of the game anyway. I played a couple hours this arvo and no DCs or letting go on hook at all, everyone was pretty chill. For me it's really not the norm, so when I do see it I'm pretty whatever about it. I figure maybe they've had a bad day and thought the game might be a good distraction, until they realize it isn't.

The reason i keep going on about people leaving for petty reason is cause that is what the entire discussion is about

We're having a serious case of miscommunication here. I am kinda sleep deprived and i did notice i phrased my first response very poorly so let me try to sum it up and let me know the things i miscomprehended

You say you can't force people to stay in the game. I agree, there are tons of valid reasons why one would have to stop playing. That's why there is a quit game button and the penalties for doing so start low

I say that a lot of people do it for petty reasons. Not to intinuate you said that's okay but because that's the topic of discussion. OP litterally said people who suicide on first hook or when they are found first.

You say you understand why some people do it. Giving the example of not being able to play against doctor. Yes i agree but again not what is being discussed here. there is a leave game button for those players and the penalties start low so if they don't abuse it it shouldn't affect them much.

And even if they are unlucky to go against the source of their frustration often enough there is always the kill your friends mode where they control against which killer they play. There are options for those people that doesn't screw 4 others over

I say that the problem is that the DC penalty (that is in most multiplayer games to stop this exact behaviour) that stops the quit game feature from being abused is too easilly circumvented by suiciding on hook.

Something mostly abused by people who want to leave for petty reasons often cause again there is a quit game button for people who have actual valid reasons to stop and a penalty that doesn't get high unless you really abuse it.

Sorry but pointing to people who have valid reasons to leave a game in a thread complaining about people leaving the moment something goes wrong for them is not adding perspective. That's just pointing away from the problem

Also that's not how analogies work. My friends don't leave games the moment they start losing cause i have a good taste in friends

Did you read everything else, aside from the example OP gave, as well? If my comment isn't adding another perspective for you then it is very simple bud, don't respond to it or @ me. You clearly disagree, and that's your right, good for you. I agree to disagree with you :)

Now let's put this back and forth to bed shall we, it's almost the weekend and I reckon we both have better things to do than to argue on a gaming forum. I for one do. You have yourself a lovely day!