Only reliable way to reach red ranks/grades is to tunnel every game

But newer players need all the BP they can get. I'm with you on this, I've stopped caring about rank now that I've got all my survs and killers prestiged for perks. And I enjoy the game much more for it.

But that's taken a while. And 2 mill bp is pretty much 2 full prestiges.

Absolutely not, reforming the safety pip standards and lowering requirements I am on board with, removing depips would be like removing the dc penalty people killing themselves on first hook would go through the roof.

I would argue that there are probably alot people who are trying to climb to Iridescent 1 who if it wasnt going to cost them a pip would let go on hook more often.

If you remove depips there would be absolutely zero penalty for letting go on first hook and very little incentive in staying in a match where they are pretty sure they wont pip and probably wont get alot of BP.

On the flip side you can easily create better safety pip conditions that would make it so that pip loss is less common for people who are playing the game but still punish the players who deserve to get a depip.

I can get to iri 1 going for 2ks with wraith no problem.

If you run strong add ons on Wraith and regression, you can probably do it very handily. Or Legion as well, you can pip even on mediocre games.

I was at work so couldnt fully explain my suggestion but that is part of it.

First thing we have to do is define a hook suicide. A hook suicide is an on hook death that occurs in the first 5 minutes of the match, that does not meet one of the followiing conditions.

1. If you have been hooked twice. Generally this means you are being tunnelled/hook rescue farmed, and I dont think it fair to hold it against them if they want out at that point.

2. If you have accumulated a total of 60 seconds on hook. Add a hook time counter to the HUD, this way if a player has just been left to die by their team they are allowed to move on if they arent being rescued, but also cant just 4% to try and get to 2nd stage to die faster.

3. If at least 3 people are dead, dying or on hook. This is pretty self explanatory but covers for giving the last person hatch.

Any match that has a hook suicide or DC will result in a minimum safety pip for all remaining players, and the person who DC's or hook suicides will lose a pip.

Players who have already reached iridescent 1 will still depip ONLY for a hook suicide or DC . Fixes the issue where currently players who have reached iridescent 1 can essentially ruin matches for other players with no punishment whatsoever.

Currently in order to safety pip you need the following emblem points, bronze 6 points, silver 7 points, gold 8 points, Iridescent 9 points. Most complaints of depipping start in gold/iridescent, not many complain about depips in bronze/silver. To make it easier to safety pip we make the bronze requirement a safety pip across the board so even in gold/iridescent, 6 emblem points will ensure a safety pip.

Lastly a MMR buffer, for anyone who reads this and doesnt know the matchmaking will prioritize queue times over fair matches, I dont personally know enough about the actual MMR numbers, but in the case of a significant disparity in MMR, whether low MMR killer vs higher MMR survivors or vice versa, the low MMR side will receive a guaranteed minimum safety pip as long as they do not hook suicide or DC. This prevents an unfair match created by poor matchmakimg from punishing players.

Depipping needs to be a thing of the past

Except for the part where it takes forvever to get an actual real game because people are constantly first hook suiciding because there is 0 penalty for them to do that anymore.

That won't happen. Anyone that says they play sweaty in fear of depipping is lying to you. Put them at grade 1 against the most annoying SWFs and watch them sweat beads.

Not many are at grade 1 close to reset besides the ones that play everyday. I'd say the rush to grade 1 for most starts a week before reset.

What you think trying last 4% chance while you'll about reach second stage? That could result in depipin system you suggest.

This shouldn't be too much of an issue, if you are doing a 4% that would put you into 2nd stage you are already past 40 seconds on hook, meaning only 20 seconds you would need in 2nd stage before you give up which you would be able to see in your hook timer.

What you describe may also be covered by condition 3 because logically if you are trying that its because at least 1 other person is dead, dying, or on hook, and you would generally only be letting go if the 3rd person goes down.

There is the issue of 2 people on 1st hook and the last 2 hiding for hatch which waiting for 60 seconds may be an inconvenience but in that scenario if both are on first hook someone should be going for the save.

I think if you do reach iri 1 you should not lose pip or then there should be more safety pips to keep you're here. Fine by me if you dc or suicide multiple games then you could drop out. Because people have bad games.

Like I said once iri 1 has been reached you can ONLY lose pips from DC's and early hook suicides, even after you have gone back down, I will edit the condition to only losing pips on DC/Hook suicide within first 5 min, to provide protection for hacking/holding the game hostage situations that may require a DC.

Literally play blight decently with 1-2 regression perks and a 1k. Iri 1 in no time. As long as you don't get stomped blight farms points/rank. If you are playing an insta down killer it's rough though.

If you are good at killer you can reach rank 1 easily playing a 12 hook playstyle game with no camping and no tunneling.

Not sure if the Eruption meta has made much of the killer player base think they are better than they are, but that is my theory.

There are loads of boosted survivors, and just as many boosted killers.

I reach rank 1 in under a week as killer with that playstyle.

Did you know you can pip all the way up to gold without killing a single survivor? Think of your mmr being so low that you can coast your way to iri 1 on the backs of noob survivors.