Congratulations to BHVR for literally making an unplayable Killer
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Yes.
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Yeah cause I'm hella sick of these randos demanding she is removed from the game just because THEY don't like playing her or going against her. This isn't one perk or something small its an ENTIRE KILLER who people paid for and enjoy yet yall want her removed simply cause you don't like her design and don't like her
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Maybe if yall stopped the hate train and stopped spreading misinfo she'd be liked a lot more just a thought!
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Doctor's change kept him core to who he was along with all his abilities he was just made more streamline
There was a lot of freddy mains who quit playing him after his re work and theres still to this day people who actively complain about his rework so I really don't see your point there either
Live service game = can't enjoy anything you paid for apparently now
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Uh I never said I wanted her to be removed neither the person you commented to said to remove her completely. They said kill switched and rework the killer entirely.
Although you have a point with the weird people doing the absolute most because they don't like um insert whatever.
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That's literally the same thing?
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Reworked entirely = removed. If she's reworked entirely then what's the point of even keeping her? If her design, power, and lore all get reworks then there is literally ZERO reason to even touch her as a player anymore because guess what? She's no longer The Skull Merchant who's actually fun. I'm sorry but where's this energy for hag who can do the same thing if not WORSE? Or Knight?
I've gotten anime gore, death, and r*pe threats sent to me for playing SM, can't say the same for Hag or Knight.
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Don't be obtuse. There's a difference between having the killer in game but under a rework phase than deletion entirely. You're comparing the situation of Dredge being kill switched to something like the Stranger Things license removal
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Except nobody is suggesting dredge should come back with an entirely different power? That's not even close to the same thing.
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Reworked entirely under a kill switch isn't removal. Literally look at Dredge then look at the Stranger Things license and see he difference.
Also not be a jerk but do you go through life blissfully unaware or something? People have been giving smoke for Hag. KNIGHT especially gets/got hate for his gameplay up to today.
But no one deserves any hate for playing a killer. That's just ew behavior
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Omg you guys stay being obtuse on purpose. A kill switch for a duration isn't the same thing as complete removal. It's not hard to use critical thinking when I'm referring to Dredge being kill switched as whole.
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I think you're the one being obtuse. Explain to me how "killer is glitched and will come back when it's fixed" = "people want this killer killswitched and when they come back it will be with a completely different power and identity".
How are those two things remotely the same?
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Can you not strawman argue me and try to demand me to answer your line of questioning? I will say this 1 more time. The act of kill switching as in the character is available to purchase but not play is NOT the same thing as a complete removal like the license. That's it. I'm not talking about glitches or whatever. I said the act of kill switching isn't the same as complete removal.
Do you finally get it or do I have to slow it down further for you? 😒
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It's not a strawman it's literally not the same thing and you're actively choosing to ignore the one very important difference between dredge currently being killswitched and what some people are suggesting for SM. To put it another way so maybe you actually understand let's say dredge comes back and now they don't teleport to lockers they don't cause darkness and don't have a remnant.
Now they put Dredge is back in the game and they can instead put shadows on the ground and survivors scream when they step on them and become oblivious. Do you think all the people that like dredge and put work into learning dredge would be happy with that? That the original power they liked is just deleted and it's some new power they may or may not like. Do you think any of the people would consider dredge to be the same character they originally really liked?
Do you understand why your analogy makes zero sense now?
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My analogy does makes sense because it's not even an analogy. You are strawman arguing and still are. I said a kill switch ain't the same as deletion. Plain and simple. You're choosing to find fault and argue against me for no reason trying to fault my logic that you intentionally keep ignoring just to complain. I will say it 1 last time and I'll slow it down for you like a child so you can finally get it.
The big red triangle at the bottom over the killer icon means you can't play the killer. They aren't deleted, just can't be used in matches. It's not the same thing as an actual deletion like how Steve and Nancy can't be bought in shops at all.
Literally stop trying to whine so hard over an analogy that's not an analogy
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Would be cool if you actually addressed a single point I actually made. You're literally ignoring them and going "nope I'm right I don't have to read anything you write and address it when I can just say it's a strawman instead".
Actually unreal lmao.
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They not being completely wrong here tho...If you completely rework a killer it kinda makes them a whole new killer that replaces the old one. Look at other reworks dbd had...did Freddy stay mostly the same after his rework? When you completely rework something you are in a sense deleting the old version of it. I personally like SM because she is a different type of killer. I like having info being the main force of her power instead of chase. Honestly, I don't know what the devs can do without completely changing her from an info killer. My main question to anyone who wants her to be reworked would be How would you rework her so she keeps her core identity as an info killer? So far I haven't seen much in a suggestion that keeps her as an info killer and not change her into a chase killer.
I know her ability to stall out of the game isn't fun and not healthy for the game. I understand that much but I just don't know what they could do to her without completely changing her core identity.
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I'm not addressing a strawman based on the argument on someone actively ignoring the simple statement I made then had the entitlement and audacity to think I have to answer your questions.
Delusional honestly
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Right I understand that but my only 1 point is a kill switch isn't the same as a whole deletion. That's it.
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My question to you hinges on your statement so how am I ignoring it? If you wanna say you don't have an answer just say that it's fine tbh.
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Okay but I'm saying that your premise suggest killers are just skins for whatever power you wanna plug into them and that killer identity doesn't matter and people only play SM for her design and not her power and that people who do play her will just go with whatever power they give her like we're bots.
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Again, I don't have to answer ANY question of yours. I don't owe you that. I made a statement and that's it. Kill switch isn't the same as entire deletion. It's on you for even trying to find fault to argue and whine atp
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That's not my point at all. You're still strawman arguing me and putting words in my mouth. I said kill switch isn't the same as deletion entirely. Plain and simple. Stop trying so hard to overanalyze a basic sentences, getting it wrong, and trying to argue over nothing.
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But it's not just a killswitch that people are suggesting? I have to assume you're just actively choosing to not to understand that at this point cuz it's not that hard.
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Bro just stop already. I said a basic statement about the act of kill switching not being deletion. I'm going to assume you're desperate for my attention cause there's not way a sane person cares this much over a basic statement that's not even harmful
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All I did was point out that people were not suggesting a simple killswitch and it was more involved than that and you started malding and being passive aggressive. I tried explaining it and you called it a strawman to deflect anything I was actually saying, I don't think you know how to have a conversation but that's okay cuz you're right in that there's no point in continuing.
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Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you cry passive aggression and malding when you were practically demanding I owe you answers to a question like your my legal guardian? Also I do know how to hold a conversation. I will not hold one with a random person online that's twisting my words intentionally and demanding I argue with them while strawmanning me. Calm the entitlement and audacity and then I'll converse with you
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Also don't lie just to justify yourself. Making stuff up just to argue shows your quality of character
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Ahh yeah, that part I agree with you. Killswitch =/= Delete. Tho I did see rework was mention some of the posts and that is why I said what I said because I do think to complete rework = delete. I know in other games reworks do lead ppl feeling like their fav thing gets deleted from the game. For example, I play Final Fantasy 14 where my fav job/class was completely reworked this current expac. For me, it completely felt like my fav job was deleted from the game and made me find another job/class to play. Anyway, I do agree with your point of killswitching something doesn't mean it's getting deleted from the game.
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Because you're idea of a conversation to you just seems to be say whatever you want and if the person suggests it might be wrong you just ignore it and deflect and decide to be passive aggressive instead. It's not entitlement to expect an answer to a question that's literally just how communication works lmao.
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Thank you. I understand that kill switching with idea of a rework is different than normal. But some people can't grasp the idea that kill switch isn't deletion even after giving an example of actual deletion
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You expected me to answer your weird questions over a simple statement and got defensive that I don't owe you an answer. Also if you want a conversation, don't intentionally disregard the statement I made then put words in my mouth and get hot and bothered that I'm not going to respond to you syurpy sweet
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What did I disregard? Also all I did originally was pose a question and you're first response was literally "don't be obtuse" straightaway so when the default response is to go straight to being passive aggressive that doesn't really seem like a good sign. But it's whatever it's not my job to be your parent and I'm done with this conversation now, I'm just saying defaulting to that kind of response is rarely going to lead to productive conversation.
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Saying that you paid money for something does not mean that it cannot be changed.
Do you think I spent money on Ash because I wanted to get annoyed whenever I play him and he starts blabbering in the lobby?
Do you think I spent money on Laurie because I wanted DS to become a mild inconvenience instead of a strong Perk?
Things can change in this game. And this is why I said they should rework Skull Merchant and put a Refund-option on it.
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And I'm saying putting words in mouth and demanding I owe you something isn't going to net you a positive response. Look at yourself before trying to diagnose me.
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I pretty muched called this entire mindset happening the moment Skully came out. I knew people would start seeing her the same as old Legion once the 3 gen strat proved so effective with her. It's all Skully players do now because the Killer is so weak that they have no choice. It's literally old Legion and moonwalking all over again, yet another Killer that is so weak that they have to rely on unfun strategies to get something done.
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