Rip Dead hard. You guys are out of your minds

The current high usage rate is strange. How come there are so many games in a row that bring more than 3 out of 4 players? I'm tired of being exposed to the stress of hesitating to press M1 every game when I don't know if I have it or not.

Dh is a problem of a perk,

rewards unskillful plays and gives a 3rd healthstate,

plus dealing with auto Dh is also terrible,

glad it's nerfed so i can see how many survivors cry about it,

This is a really good point - Dead Hard allowed survivors to mess up and have "insurance" in case they made an error mid chase. Where was : Generator Hard? You lost a generator because someone wasted your time with Dead Hard so you press E on a completed generator and now it goes back to active with 60 seconds of repair time lost.

DH was too strong when used by good players but was used poorly by bad players. Good players were getting even more time in chase before than they were with DH for distance. Old DH for distance gave you about 2-3 seconds of distance. The current form of DH gives you ~16 seconds of distance + the killer's recovery animation.

And that's why it got nerfed - The top tier of DBD loopers were using this every game to waste massive amounts of time. The meta didn't shift at all when the devs "nerfed" it except that only the top tier players were using it. Not only were they doing well with it - they were doing better than the old DH for distance.

Here's the problem :

Sprint Burst and Lithe really only work "a little bit" compared to current DH. The two front loaded perks let you change the tile you are on at the start of a chase and then do nothing. DH lets you get distance to get to a new tile mid chase. That means you could combine it with windows and then run to 3 safe pallets and force the killer to drop all those pallets and break them.

It was common to see strong players use DH and then get 30 seconds in a chase but sometimes 40-60 seconds. IF the survivors get 30 seconds extra time in a chase that gives their team 90 seconds which is the time to complete three generators.

In the very best of conditions when you use SB/L you're going to get about 12 seconds in a chase if the killer is expecting it. If the killer attacks and misses then maybe you get ~17 seconds in the absolute best case scenario. The realistic use of DH gives you basically double time at the worst and +40 seconds at best. That was absolutely game breaking.

When playing vs high level survivors DH extended chases by minutes over the course of the game.

And what would that be? (Btw who is we, pluralis majestatis?)

Please don't tell me "crying and complaining on the forum" because BOTH sides have been at it for 6-7 years without break. So your "threat" would be at best, it will keep going as always.

-"Not everyone is a top player though and the game shouldn't be balanced around top players."

You can't have a perk that gives almost 4x the advantage of a similar perk in the same category. DH and SB are both exhaustion perks meant to give you a tool to create distance where none exists. If the best players are always getting 17 seconds from SB and the bad players are getting 12 that's fine. No one is upset about 5 seconds longer in a chase.

DH was giving good players 40-60 seconds extra in a chase. Do you think there is any scenario where equipping DH and getting that much extra time in a chase was fair?

You cannot have a game ignore "top tier" balance unless as a player you can "opt out" of top tier gameplay.

Here's the problem with your analysis : There are pallets in the game that literally turn off any attempt at skill for the killer to outplay the survivor. If this pallet is thrown and unbroken then it creates a "mini infinite" loop. That should not be part of the game but it is anyway.

It boggles the mind when a survivor main says things like :

1. If they can loop for 60 seconds against an M1 killer then they deserve all that time.
2. Why is the killer camping to conform a hook state? (the answer btw is because he could have chased you for 60 seconds and lost 2-3 generators around extremely safe/broken parts of the map. )

Not everyone is a top player, and since the most busted things such as alch ring blight and nurse are really not played by casual players, they should not be balanaced? I do not have any issues with that opinion, as long as is consistent, deadhard should not be nerf because not everyone is good at the game, same as nurse/blight if thats the logic behind the argument that is.

Pebble is also not the number 1 most picked survivor perk in the game. Do you know what that perk happens to be?

Nobody defending Dead Hard gets to say this.

With both base healing and DH being nerfed in such a massive way, they're either going to lose a huge playerbase or have to revert something about either of those two.

People who think hook farming and tunneling were bad before are going to be in for a surprise when killers will tunnel the unhooked out of the game, and ignore the unhooker in case of DeADHaRd 😑 and players with DH have nothing holding them back from hook farming 🤷🏻 SoloQ is going to be absolutely amazing.

they're also nerfing pain resonance, call of brine ,overcharge

dead hard could still be a good perk, it depends on the time it will remain activated. unhooking someone injured especially with the heaing nerfs will be a lot more common and this helps with that

Am I losing my ######### mind or am I being gaslit here? Bad perk?

Like i said. it varies depending on killer, acouple killers ain't affected as bad as others are...

the rest get cucked and screwed by it,

Is that better.. or do i need to reword it again