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OMG, the Campers are making me rethink $ and Time
I'm getting to the point that almost EVERY killer is a Camper, and if they aren't in your face, they are proxy camping, and then tunnel you. It really makes the game no fun at all. You never really have a chance to actually play. I'm thinking this isn't the game for me, at this point. From my short time playing, it seems the development is geared towards making it even easier for killers to 'win', and yet they don't need to do anything other than what they already do.. Camp & Tunnel! Isn't there some sort of HUGE penalty that can be enforced for the 'killers' to keep them from doing this?
(... and for the record, I only camped ONCE when I first began playing! It was on my very first game as a killer, and I learned what it was and to never do it again!)
It's just very disappointing and disheartening. The only reason I will be getting the premium Rift this time is because it is Free from Prime. Otherwise, I won't be spending any more money on this game. :(
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Welcome to the "updated" DBD lol. Now that healing yourself with a med kit is gone and boon circle is gone all a killer needs is lethal, sloppy, a aura perk and corrupt and the own the match. Get a survivor down quick with lethal, proxy hook, slap the un unhooker, tunnel the struggle out. Four gen match with two healthy, one hurt. End match
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Its annoying af, but eventually(I hope) you may make it to higher MMR, where camping becomes rarer. Tunneling without camping will become more common, but with DS and OTR equipped its actually kinda funny for the few minutes it lasts.
Sadly people playing nice and winning with tactics that feel nice to both sides is very rare.
Killers also have kind of the same thing, where all survivors tend to rush gens and leave within 4 minutes or so. Both experiences have moments where they suck.
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Or does the threat of early elimination and constant pressure make the game more exciting?
One of the best and unique aspects of dbd is the uncomfortable finality of some of the mechanics.
When you take a step back you can really appreciate how well this emulates an actual slasher flick.
You don’t want to get caught because the outcome can be catastrophic gameplay wise. It’s probably the best thing about dbd.
The moment they water it down dbd loses what makes it threatening and unique and becomes another dull uneventful safe grind fest like every other online game out there.
I hope it never changes and the more uncomfortable people seem to be about it the better dbd does it’s job of emulating the slasher genre. Which is just great.
Just my personal counter perspective on the topic.
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So what I am reading is that if you are a really skilled player, the game is actually fun. Whelp, that leave me out, I guess. I can't seem to get in enough gameplay to actually 'practice', and therefore I still suck. Thanks for that. :)
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Well I don't know why but I don't trust you, if you're that bad as you say, how can you encounter so many campers?
I am pretty sh*t at survivor, very probably low MMR, and no matter the Killer I face they never face camp.
In my whole playtime, I only faced one single facecamping Bubba, surprisingly it was funny cause I tricked him into wasting his chainsaw with a fake unhook before coming back for the true unhook.
Everyone says they see facecamping killers, but that's only at high MMR I'm sure of that.
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I love this title so much it made me laugh thanks
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What does Trust have to do with anything here? How does TRUST play into this thread?
As for skill, I think I'm pretty bad as a survivor. If the killer comes after me, I AM going to get hooked. I can't loop him to save my dbd life. I've watched videos and it looks so easy, but it really isn't. I get campers probably about 90% of the time now, and I've only been playing since last October. That doesn't mean I won't try to save my teammates, even if it means certain death for me, but at least if it gets to that point, I will have had time to play a little and feel like it was a bit of fun. The camping and tunneling seemed to amp up around the end of December or first of January, so I put it down to people being extremely unhappy over the holidays. Now that we're into Spring, I think I can safely conclude it had nothing to do with the Holidays.
Just consider yourself lucky and grind for your BP's while it lasts.
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Glad I could make someone smile! :) :) :)
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It will last forever, because face camper only exist in those threads.
That's what trust comes into the thread, you're probably trying to lie about Killers camping when in fact, you're high MMR, tbagging every single Killer after looping them for 5 gens easily.
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The issue here is killers have gone against so many bully sqauds and swfs with close to impossible to counter builds for the longest time that camping and tunnelling has worked it's way into something that just occurs and unfortunately solo queue survivors get the worst end of it because killer doesn't know if it's a swf or not so they just go into the match will the intention of getting people out asap.
I'm not saying this camping and tunnelling would stop if they knew they weren't against a swf, but I'm willing to bet you'd get a lot of killers taking it easier on solo queue players, especially if they play both sides and know that pain
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Just because something isn't happening to you doesn't mean it isn't happening to someone else.
You came off a little aggressive here with the "I don't trust you"
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For a "huge penalty" to be in place for camping and tunneling then there needs to be a serious overhaul of the base game. Simply making it impossible to camp or tunnel by either making gens go quicker or pausing their timer or straight up making them invincible WILL be weaponized by other survivor players.
Also the fact that swf is still extremely powerful with no real way to communicate in soloq because killers can still against decent survivors with comms.
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Shame on you
survivors are forced to bring trash perks to "counter" that
Always bring Reassurance and Kinship
/s
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Is anyone else in this thread lowkey freaked out that literally two people here have astonishingly similar names???
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Lol, I mean survivors do next to nothing to encourage killer players not to camp/tunnel. I'll use my first killer game of the night tonight as a prime example. I had a Nemesis daily and since I don't sweat too hard, I just put on a goofy build. The map was Shattered Safe Pallet, so already I knew I wasn't going to win but I still went to play for hooks and reach maximum mutation. The Meg in this lobby was BAD, like use Sprint Burst to run past god pallets to the z wall at the edge of the map bad. I could have easily hard tunnelled her out of the game to give myself a really good chance of 3 or 4king, even with this build and on a survivor sided trash heap map. I didn't though, and just went for hooks. How was I treated in the end game? The P100 that was on death hook clicked and teabagged at me in the exit gates despite the fact that they did nothing amazing all game except comp drop. At the other exit gate across the map? The Meg waits there for the entire EGC when no one was left in the trial. Typical survivors lmao
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Wow! Where did that toxicity come from? Wow!!!!
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Well, my name is from my given name, which is Cynthia. It's a nickname or shortened version of it. So, not so astonishing after all. We do exist. (Although I'm a little disappointed in the attitude of the other Cyn, if that is from Cynthia as well. Kinda bad for our name all the way around :/ )
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Sorry to say I didn't follow this at all. No idea what you're trying to say at all. Shame on me for.. what exactly?
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I see your point. Well put. :/
you both made good points, as well. After i'm dead, I usually spectate to see what happens, and I do see the survivors being obnoxious. And tbh, when I play killer for my dailies (which I suck at even worse than survivor) they figure out pretty quickly how bad I am and get really really mean about it. Sometimes they quit gens altogether to just humiliate me, so to speak. lol (I really am bad most of the time hahaha) And even if I try to play nice killer, the jackwagons then want to blind me with flashlights and be ungrateful. So yeah, I get that. (but I have played a few good games as killer and not sucked at all. it's just not the norm for me. :D)
I'll suck it up and just try...
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Ok, so I looked up what MMR is and... how do I check that? Is there somewhere I can find out how they rank me? I can understand that if I play with one of my friends who is really good at looping the killer how that might put me in a higher match, right? But that still wouldnt explain playing with randos....
As I said, I guess I'll just keep trying.
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No, MMR is intentionally hidden just like in most other games, but those have at least some form of ranking.
Grades in DBD, the bronze/silver/gold/red thingy before your name has nothing to do with matchmaking.
"/S" is the general sign for sarcasm. So everything before that is normally meant ironically or to be read in a sarcastic tone.
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Well sorry I'm just pissed off by Survivors that keeps coming into my profile to put "-rep won the game".
And Cynwale is just a character, nothing related to Cynthia.
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Well, as someone who solo q a lot: you can deal with campers and tunellers, but it requires a minimum amount of skill, game awareness and discipline.
Reassurance will hurt a lot if the rest of the team is on gens. After the perk expires, you can always trade hooks and repeat the process (if you bring deliverance, the better).
If the killer slugs you and go for the unhooked, you can get up with unbreakable and get back on gens, while someone else body blocks or annoys the killer when the downs the unhooked (if on a pallet, the better). All this time the 4th person is doing gens.
Even if the killer gets 1 kill (it's possible), 3 will make it. But sometimes it's perfectly possible for a 4 man escape, especially if the killer is not Bubba and there are healthy survivors to body block at the exit gates.
Also, remember adrenaline: she will heal you when you get unhooked at endgame, plus give you a speed boost.
You can always bring a medkit with the purple bottle addon to tank a hit at endgame for someone.
To sum up: it's perfectly possible, but requires brains and a minimum amount of knowledge of how the game works. Something that is sorely lacking in solo queue.
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This man is right, read carefully Adrenaline description, it says "bring this perk to erase instantly all your mistakes and auto escape in end game."
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sarcasm
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I'm sorry to hear you're having a bit of a crapper with the game currently.
As a SoloQ survivor and killer 50/50, one thing I've noted is that being cautious and observant of killer behaviour is key to avoiding those scenarios, but also that of your fellow survivors. If you strap on Kindred for a few games, you'll start to note which survivors work well with others and are, therefore, more likely to help you (and be capable of helping) against a camper. The perk also gives them information whereby the other survivors can work better to free you.
If you notice a killer who is a bit too obsessed with eye contact, best thing to do is (providing you are not the current focus of their affection) to focus on staying far away and continue with gens, whilst always making sure you have an escape route planned out if they go for you. Sometimes it's impossible (Basement dinner parties with Bubba is almost always a lose-lose), but in other cases you may be lucky.
Also, Kinship is also another perk to consider if you're worried about camping. With experience and luck, you'll eventually find better games. I wish you well.
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Thanks for all of the responses. I think I'll keep working at it, and just try to come to terms with the nasty killer players who face camp u in the basement. Pfft!
Also, thanks for the explanation of the sarcasm descriptor. I guess I havent done much on forums, lol. GL all! ;)
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Thing with camping is that it gets better when you're out of low MMR. Against semi-competent group of survs face camping hook is not optimal. As others said, you can also kind of work around it.
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Fact is it has never been so hard to win as a killer without camping/tunneling so killers are doing the only thing they can do to try to get a victory : camping and tunneling.
When there were strong gen regression perks, the killer had the time to hunt and force the survivors to use ressources - pallets and items. But now, with the insta heal items spam, the super fast heal perk spam (We'll make it) and the gen rush perks abuse, the killer does not have the time to chase anymore.
So what solution do they have ? Proxy camping and tunneling.
Survivor mains have cried here because COB, POR and Overcharge were way too strong, now that those perks are useless, did you really expect killers to chase a survivor for 2 minutes, leaving the hooked surv to go chase another surv for 2 minutes ?
The killer can just do between 1 and 3 hooks for the 5 gens to be done. It is really unhealthy for the game and i do not understand why the devs do not check the "average number of hooks per game" to really balance their game.
I also do not understand why some of the 6.7.0 changes have not been reverted yet, the whole community is unhappy with them, just go back to 6.6.2, it was way better.
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