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It seems to me that developers ignore the Arab community

Boons123
Boons123 Member Posts: 817
edited May 2023 in General Discussions

Well, we have two chapters from Japan, and chapter from Brazil, and a chapter from Korea and others

But what about the Middle East chapter? Which Arabs or The majority are Arabs

Not only chapters But the Arab community wants the Arabic language in a game, and some even offered to volunteer to add the Arabic language, and this is not new because the Arab community has demanded this for years, and you can find some of them since 2017 asking or offering to volunteer to translate the game into Arabic

Isn't this strange for behavior that does not look at the Arab community?

The Arab community is a big community however, there is no response from the developers which is strange

You might say that Zerina is indeed an Arab

But I will say that Jake is from Korea and yet they made a chapter from Korea

What the Arab community wants is very clear (a complete Arabic chapter) and (the addition of the Arabic language)

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  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    Of course, since 2017, and the Arab community wants that

    Is this the first thing you thought of? the irony? You dazzle us

  • Stroggz
    Stroggz Member Posts: 498

    I'd love to play jinn as a killer, like put a lamp and then someone scratches it and you come etc etc

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    There are many games that have been translated into Arabic, so it is not an insurmountable problem, and also the Gulf countries, the Arabian Peninsula, is the best place to quote things to make Arab characters

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,794

    Oh sorry for the confusion. I just meant chapters/in-game content.

    for translation, I am with you.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    But there is no response, even those who offered to volunteer were not answered either

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 2,980

    Well for translation 100% but to ask for a chapter is a bit much.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    I know it is difficult, but the Arab region is full of myths and legends from which they can make 2 killers out of these ideas.

    It is a pity that the developers did not pay attention to this treasure

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    Well, Egypt and Turkey are from the Middle East, if you don't pay attention

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,514

    The game not being translated into Arabic likely means they don't have someone who can translate and they should be looking into that.

    As for character representation, while it would be nice it's not like bhvr is favoring any one with the characters they release. So this is a non issue

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,713

    I'm with you on wanting to see a chapter based on stuff from that part of the world. I have my doubts that the devs are intentionally ignoring any demand for it, but it is something I'd like to see for sure. Definitely before we get another chapter based on Asian culture, since we've had 3 of those already.

    Although you could make the argument they did delve into middle eastern culture a little bit with the Plague, since she hails from Babylon. Something from the middle east from more recent times would be nice though.

  • Z0mbiv0r
    Z0mbiv0r Member Posts: 306

    Yep, I also agree a Djinn killer would be awesome (in fact, I have a chapter of my own creation dedicated to that), but as other have said, there are still many cultures unrepresented, so it's not like they are intentionally avoiding it, is it?

    Now, the translation thing is another matter entirely, and yep, if people have even volunteered, I don't see the point why it's not getting done.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    Yeah, where is the german oktoberfest event?!

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,794

    Ugh. Now I remember the Oktoberfest collection 🫠 I guess Felix head is still his best at least.

    Germany is not only just Bavaria.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    As if no one did what you wrote

    I will not repeat what I wrote earlier

  • CorvusCorax86
    CorvusCorax86 Member Posts: 1,072

    I'm sure they will include something to make more appealing to your community. I want to believe we haven't seen the best chapters of the game, yet.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    I didn't know that a woman's veil could scare you

    Let's change the old saying (the man is afraid of the unknown) to (the man is afraid of the woman because he can only see her face or her head).

    Presumably, the pig might hide you

    But this is a popular and religious culture as well, so do not joke about these matters

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564

    I mean at least Zarina is from Arabian country, there is a lot countries have not any character in game tho.


    For example, i am from Turkey and there is no Turkish character in this game. Or Greek? Or Bulgarian. Or Persian. I can list more but i think you saw the point already.


    At least they are trying to add different characters from different countries and cultures.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    I did not say that the developers hate the Arab society, but if you failed to notice, I did not specify a specific Arab country, but I said the Arab region, because the ideas are very many and varied, and it is unfortunate that they miss this treasure

  • AetherBytes
    AetherBytes Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 3,048

    The translation thing does seem weird (perhaps whatever BHVR's done has made it unable to render arabic characters?)

    As for a chapter, as said before, not only are a lot of countries/regions not included, but I actually dont even know of any Arabic horror stories or inspiration for one. It makes sense that they havent tried to make one yet when you look at the big picture.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 1,801

    @Boons123

    A few replies in this thread have been rude when it wasn't warranted. I understand your desires, but I don't think they are going to happen for a variety of reasons (some good, some just BHVR decisions).

    But there is no response, even those who offered to volunteer were not answered either

    If I had to guess, there are concerns about private company taking volunteer work and then using it for profit. Additionally, as new content comes out it would also have to be translated. That's why I think they'd likely prefer to have a long term partner, not volunteers.

    That said, I have nothing against the concept of a translation to any langue.

    On the not responding: BHVR, like many companies, seems to have a policy of not commenting about possibilities. This is understandable, a simple 'we are considering something like this' can easily explode into a community thinking an idea which is just a possibility is guaranteed.

    I know it is difficult, but the Arab region is full of myths and legends from which they can make 2 killers out of these ideas.

    It is a pity that the developers did not pay attention to this treasure

    So there are a few issues here on why it probably hasn't happened/is unlikely.

    1: The games theme is western horror movies, especially with a focus on American/Canadian slashers. Western horror fans also tend to gravitate to east Asian horror pretty well (and vise versa). However, this same theme transition is not as easy with some other cultures. As the game trends more toward 'horror in general' though it likely will expand.

    2: DbD tends to avoid just taking characters from mythos. There is no werewolf, vampire, frankenstein, etc per se, though they do play off those ideas. Whether that is a good idea or not is its own question, but that doesn't seem to be a well you want to dip into.

    3: When you dip into mythos you are creating the possibility that you will upset people who believe the genre you are using are very much real (example: devils, djinn). Some cultures don't have much of a problem with this, Shinto believers in Japan for example don't seem to mind the use of Shinto religious concepts in fictional works. That isn't universally true. Given how broad the Arabic world is BHVR creates the possibility of backlash, which is the last thing a company wants.

    Personally, I wish they used mythological creatures more from various cultures, but they really seemed focused on the idea of characters who at least have a human origin.

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564

    I think it is not fair to count licensed characters. We should count only original characters because BHVR has no decision race of licensed characters.

    But i agree with that, we don't need any Japanese or American characters because we already have so much of them. I prefer to see different cultures as well.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    Most of the ancient myths, especially in the Arabian Peninsula, are not believed in by society, and no one mind if companies want to take any of these ideas.But the problems begin if the Arabs are abused and depicted in a bad way through the character or the abuse of the society's culture and religion.

    I see that they borrowed the character the Spirit from Japanese mythology and then the developers composed her story and made her perks

    They just borrowed the legend and then did the rest themselves and then added it into the game as an original chapter.

    This is what I want the developers to do from the Arab legends and then do their creativity

    If they are worried about whether this fits with the Arab culture or not, they can ask the Arab community

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,449

    What killer would you propose? A Djinn might be a bit too touchy, but a Ghoul could work, the original arab ones are pretty terrifying. Or maybe a Thugge or Hashashin? But these would be memed to death and would have to work had to differentiate themselves from the Legion.

    Maybe some OG character like "The Desert Raider", who could be literally anything, mechanical, or "The Vizir", who is the first real black mage.

  • lifestylee
    lifestylee Member Posts: 262

    Plague is from babylon so thats arabic isnt it? current day Iraq.

    And yea Zarina is arabic too i think.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    The plague is from a very ancient civilization that does not even speak Arabic

    And before the Arabs

  • MalekithHatesSnow
    MalekithHatesSnow Member Posts: 253

    Game still doesn't have a single Australian devs must be ignoring us damn meanies >:(

  • Bartlaus
    Bartlaus Member Posts: 1,027

    In fact, I was also wondering why arabic culture hasn't arrived in DBD yet. I'm from europe, but I'd really appreciate a survivor and killer from the arab world. Arabian mythology offers enough material that would fit in DBD.

    Of course, we cannot represent every single culture at once. But I think a community of 350 million members where DBD is popular shouldn't be "left behind" ;) So it is totally fine to ask for it.

  • MrSlayer
    MrSlayer Member Posts: 189

    There's no Slav survivor either.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    the arab countries don't even get their own server location and they have to play with high ping on EU server, even there is AWS available.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,386
    edited May 2023

    Geographically/ethnically, you have Zarina and Adiris (The Plague).

    While I'm sure a Djinn would make a great killer concept, taking from modern day cultures can be problematic, we don't have any Christian-themed religious horror figures like the Nun for example. They probably wouldn't want to risk offending Islam. You could argue Djinn is technically pre-islamic, but then so is The Plague, so...

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    All myths have nothing to do with the religion of Islam. These myths existed before the advent of Islam

    Islam does not believe in myths and legends

    However, there were myths that existed before smartphones became popular in homes, that is, in the period 1800-1950, and some of them were used to scare naughty children.

  • LiaLight
    LiaLight Member Posts: 75

    Regarding the localization to Arabic it might just be a matter of costs. If BHVR does all translations and QA in-house they might not have an Arabic linguist and editor and they would have to hire them permanently since all new content would have to be translated as well. If they don't do it in-house the company that handles their localization might not have Arabic translators either and they would have to find a whole new partner only to be able to include this language.

    Additionally, it could also pose an issue for special characters that might just not be able to be displayed. Sometimes when usernames contain certain characters they only display as squares or question marks in-game so they might not be currently supported. Again, they would have to spend money and resources to make that possible and they probably decided that it's not worth it for the company.

  • Annso_x
    Annso_x Member Posts: 1,611

    I absolutely agree about needing a more diverse range of translations for the game, however it's honestly not very surprising BHVR doesn't reply about people offering to do it, bc them not having a translator for a specific language probably means they have anyone to check the offered translation (and even then, they'd probably play it safe and pay someone to do it instead).

    As for an arab chapter, of course it'd be great to have one, but there's no reason why it should take priority over any other culture.

    (Also, to the few people who say they don't want asian chapters anymore bc we already have korean, japanese and chinese characters: please look at a map and realize there's in fact more than 3 countries in Asia, Feng Min doesn't represent Kazakh, Indian, or any culture besides her own)

    And although I'm sure BHVR wouldn't want to offend any culture, they could just make a human arab killer that isn't taken from any myth to be certain to avoid any trouble.

  • AverageKateMain
    AverageKateMain Member Posts: 949

    You pointed out 2 examples as opposed the majority that actively refute your point. Interesting

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,495
    edited May 2023

    I'd like to see a ghul or ghulah based character myself especially if they could shape change into a hyena for fast movement or anything like that. Mega bonus points if their main power was shape-shifting into another survivor (preferably the last one hit).

  • Bardon
    Bardon Member Posts: 1,004

    Sorry, you don't get to control the conversation.

    Secondly, you stated that if BHVR are concerned about upsetting people "they can just ask the Arab community".

    This assumes that the Arab community is a monolithic whole where everyone believes the same things exactly.

    No group of human beings with more than one member has everyone believe the same things exactly.

    So that's not really feasible.

  • Chaos999
    Chaos999 Member Posts: 869

    This is actually incorrect.

    It's a well known fact that both the "killer main" and the "survivor main" communities of DBD work on a hive mind basis and all individuals in those communities share the same beliefs and are equitably responsible for the state of the game.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 817

    Yes, the majority of Arab society knows what they want because we share culture and beliefs, but not exactl

  • ImHexyAndINoed
    ImHexyAndINoed Member Posts: 504

    If you really want Arabian representation in the game all you need to do is convince bhvr that it will make them lots of money!


    Good luck broski