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Anyone have a video of a survivor team getting a 4 out against a camping bubba?
Some ppl are really out here telling me that a camping bubba isn't uncounterable and that it's totally possible to get a 4 out against one. So please, show me a video of this happening, without any perks or items being necessary from the survivor side. And also preferably without the bubba being absolutely garbage at the game but we'll cross that bridge when we get there
Oh let me add, for the record I've gotten one myself with deliverance! But I'm asking without perks or addons, so try again x
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he gets one unless bubba ****s it up. maybe a blind save after a hook trade, but that's it. 3 out isn't a loss at all, so i'm fine with it being "uncounterable". there is nothing to counter, survivors already won.
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So let me ask, were you fine with DS being active in endgame? Because for some reason a lot of ppl who say what you said were not
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You seem to want the killer to be able to do absolutely nothing in this game based on your posts. You are missing a few key points in the posts you're making about wanting so many things nerfed for killers. The point of the game is one killer vs 4 survivors. The survivors are supposed to feel helpless. You aren't supposed to all escape every game. The devs have said as much multiple times. You constantly post about how everything the killers have should be nerfed, so what are killers supposed to do? Stand in a corner and let all 4 survivors out every single game, because that's where the game will end up if the devs listen to suggestions like these.
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if they removed the ability to body block with ds active, i would be fine with that as well.
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Ok lets pretend I never asked for sb lithe nerfs. Also of course survivors shouldn't escape every game but killers should get a kill every game. Gonna go on w this silly comment or?
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I'm sorry, you can only have my word for it. I literally saw this (sadly only once). Bubba was camping, but team was super smart and gen-rushed as hard as they can, then in the end they managed to hookswap with insane 360 and other tricks, after that Bubba was pretty tilted, started making mistakes and behave compulsive, teammates managed to dodge his saw, unhook and run to the exit.
I was on support, did gens and opened gates and watched all this with open jaw.
It was only once.
P.S. BTW, I'm ultra anti-camping and ultra anti-tunneling wing, think that exploiters must be punished as severe as possible in any game. So you won't think I'm defending camping bubba.
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i think you should stop with the whataboutism and stay on the topic. digging into people's profiles and bringing up irrelevant comments isn't nice or normal
edit: the irony i guess, but while looking through other posts in the discussions page saw your other comment and you did the same thing, brought up different stuff so this is where i came from and i just realized the person you responded to did the same thing lol. so saying this to them as well.
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Sounds like you're a little salty for being called out for posting stupid things. You've literally got a post whining that a huge list of addons and killers need to be nerfed so survivors can have a guaranteed escape in end game, you've posted about nerfing a number of killer perks because they're too strong, and can't seem to understand somehow, that if killers keep getting nerfed they won't be able to do anything and the game won't be around much longer at that point. You're sitting here insulting people and telling them it's their job to find videos for you etc and just ignoring what they're saying. Maybe you should go for a walk and cool down a bit, I know that I can get snappy sometimes and walking away helps me cool down.
You also would get less push back, if you maybe talked about the fact that SWF is a MASSIVE part of the imbalance this game suffers from, and devs need to make up their mind about either nerfing SWF in some way, or balancing around SWF so that a lot of games as killer don't feel so incredibly lop sided. People are much more likely to remember games where they got absolutely stomped that made them feel bad then they are games that are mediocre where both sides did alright.
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Nah, it's imposible to make it 4-man escape against camper Bubba.
Only possible case is this:
Survivor A makes Bubba run for a while. Then hooked and camped. Other survivor finishes gens. Survivor B comes and saves survivor A. Survivor A escaped safely and survivor B is on the hook. Others are opening gate and whenever gates are ready, survivor B unhook himself with Deliverance. And makes it to gate.
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I’ve never seen it in game or during a player’s stream but I think it’s possible. It would probably be super rare and reliant on a combination of luck & player (Bubba) mistakes. But idk Bubba is a very forgiving killer. You can make mistakes while playing him and still easily manage at least a 1K.
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Yeah well, was just responding to them since they said I want the killer to do nothing based on my posts, think that's p fair
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It's possible. I've seen it a few times watching streams. Usually you need perks or flashlights to pull it off though. That or the Bubba needs to mess up.
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Its not uncounterable in the since that the survivors will win. But 1 will probably die. The problem is people keep seeing this as a 1/1/1/1v1 when it is a 4v1. So if the killer kills 1 survivor, and 3 get out. The team of survivors won.
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- Sabo was used, I said without any perks or items
- Same thing but with unbreakable
- Wasn't even comitted to facecamping lmao
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Don't care, 1k is a kill and should not be guaranteed, just as ppl wanted ds to deactivate so 4 outs wouldn't be guaranteed over 3 outs
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The vast majority of people don't play this game with no perks or items so that is a ridiculous ask.
You purposely want to see it done in the most suboptimal conditions that you most likely would never play in yourself. Which means you know that it is highly unlikely for someone to give you videos like that. You're now trying to act in bad faith on top of spamming threads about the same thing repeatedly.
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Without perks/items that in some way come in clutch and with a Bubba who doesn't mess up? Nah.
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Like I said already, even with DS, bubba can secure a free kill. Preventing endgame from starting won't do anything if the killer's already camping someone
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I'm not being personal about this. I've made no real statements on your person. You are actually spamming threads basically about the same topic and you have been acting in a way that reads as bad faith arguing.
As for me being weird, I'm always weird. I'm a 35 year old dbd player, weird is my natural state.
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Maybe someday more ppl in this community will accept the simple reality that bubba can get a free 1k, until then ig we're nowhere close to something being done about it 😴
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I made 1 thread as a literal piece feedback, another as really just a dumb ####post lol, and this third one as a genuine ask for a video. If you wanna consider that spam idk what to tell u theres different purposes being served
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Why's it even matter? What if I just say a lot? It's not even just bubbas its the other examples I listed, and whenever it's not one of the examples I listed endgame camping its a different killer but my teammates are stupid and the killer ends up getting a 1k anyways. That second thing isn't something I give feedback to the devs on obv since it's just a skill issue but it makes the problem when it's uncounterable much more frustrating
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So now Killers using their powers and chasing survivors is a 'free' kill?
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Being able to get a guaranteed kill from a single hook is indeed a free kill.
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No it's not, because the game does not revolve around entitled survivor terminology.
Or, to say it more plainly: You don't get to decide what's approved, not approved, lazy, or not lazy. Sorry to burst that "I get to control my opponent' bubble you have there.
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because a 1k is still a loss for the killer.
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it's uncounterable for the hooked survivor. facecamping bubba is almost always 2k min due to noed and that part of bubba is long overdue for a change
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Does it count if a Bubba doesn't get any downs and four escape?
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Yeah legit was about to ask the same thing
A bubba cannot facecamp someone if he can't catch anyone, I've had this happen once or twice
Making it to endgame and seeing their full camp loadout and getting flamed in the EGC is the cherry on top.
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Exactly, so ds in endgame shouldn't be a problem since it's a loss either way. Not trying to whataboutism my ass off just saying I see so many ppl ok with one but not the other, if you're ok with both or neither, then it's whatever
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But it revolves around entitled killer terminology calling ds a free escape?
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you are literally whataboutisming your ass off, as you put it. Why should the 1 survivor get a free escape in the endgame just because they have a perk. And DS in endgame is more than just "oh no 4 survivors escaped" it can turn a total loss into a win for the survivors just because the perk in endgame has literally 0 counter. You can't leave them on the ground, because they crawl away, you can't pick them up because of DS. Every perk should have a counter to it, and old DS had 0 counter.
The point of endgame, is for you to get your ass out quick and leave. Not linger around and 99 the gates and try and get everyone out for free. It is when the killer is at their absolute strongest, because the only thing for them to defend is the hook. Of course they should be powerful at that moment.
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But of course it's never a question of why should a killer get a free kill just because they're playing bubba. Totally not a double standard at all....
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Also if it's still considered a whataboutism at that point I still thinks it's reasonable, bc 90% of my problem is w how ppl find "free escapes" so problematic but don't care at all about free kills
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1. Definitely counterable. I've done this against bubba personally.
2. Let's say you can't guarantee a safe unhook, you can let the killer have the kill or you can trade hooks.
3. Camping etc is getting addressed this year apparently so most of your con ends might be irrelevant anyways.
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I'm simply asking if anyone can find a vid of something taking place
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1. Not without specific perks/items no, or if the killer makes what is honestly an easy to avoid mistake
2. Yeah exactly, you're forced to literally give them the kill, that's dumb
3. Nope because it'll get deactivated in endgame
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Seems like you desire mostly an echo chamber to have people agree with you and don't actually want to discuss things or consider others opinions
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Why do you think that despite the fact that I'm discussing things and considering others opinions?
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If it's endgame facecamping is basically the best thing they can do
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Most of your discussion ends up being to others
1. "Your opinion is wrong or ignorant"
2. "I need answers for very specific circumstances that never happen (Like people not using helpful perks or items) otherwise points presented are irrelevant."
3. "Because survivors aren't guaranteed unlimited protection before, after and during an unhook the game is busted"
You are right bubba is OP. He's S tier. That's why he's always #1 in tier lists
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I'm sure there's someone staging a video as we speak!
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Its not a free kill. They have to get the down first, and again you are looking at this like its not a 4v1. A single kill is still a loss. Stop with the whataboutism now because i won't engage with it at this point.
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Holy god, did you actually make this thread after I explicitly gave you a video of people escaping and it didn't count because he was camping a basement and not face camping a survivor?
Apparently Face Camping is stronger than proxy or basement camping. Somehow.
I'm serious, you really shouldn't be playing this game until at the very least your age is in the double digits. Much higher than the bare minimum preferably.
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they got banned somehow so i can type this in peace, i'd rather face bubba that camps in the end game than face dull merchant/knight or even any other killer. i really don't get the bubba hate in this community, because any killer can decide to facecamp their first hook and the most you can do is to hook trade.
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Yes the survivors as a whole won. But the one that dies gets like no points and didn't get to participate in the match. Not to mention they died to absolutely no skill but someone standing still and clicking m2 every now and then to scare off unhooking survivors.
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It's the survs fault if not at least 2 escape in that scenario. A good team will only lose 1 surv.
And 2 or 3 escapes is most likely either a draw or loss for the killer and a draw or win for the survs.
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Yes, it can happen, but generally only if the survivor players are significantly better than the Bubba player AND the Bubba makes a mistake(s) that can be capitalized on. I've had it happen exactly one time. We had three gens pop during the chase with the third coming soon after the down. Got the 4th done and the 5th nearly complete (near a gate) when 2 of us peeled off to see if we could get the unhook.
The other surv and I took turns trying to bait and eventually Bubba moved a touch too far away and tantrumed on a rock just as the other was going in from the other side to get the unhook. Thankfully the gate was close. That's the only time I've seen it.
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That's a problem with the point system, not the idea of a team game. I personally think they need to look at bloodpoint gains as a whole for survivors and a few killers. Survivors who are camped on hook should get bonus BPs for "distracting" the killer that is significant enough that they get around 20k points just like the rest of their team.
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