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Will the DC Penalty be Removed when Bots Come?
Because to me, having a game with both a DC penalty and the added function of bots in the match seems like it would be kind of silly at that point, right?
Surely this is something that's being looked at or considered at the moment, right?
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I once again have to ask if you’ve seen how bad the dc’ing gets when the penalties are turned off.
People will dc at the drop of the proverbial hat.
You’re queueing up to play a game with and against other people, not bots.
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Maybe they could reduce it or have it ramp up more slowly but to get rid of it would just encourage people to dc IMO
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They remove dc penalty in this game and I will drop it for a few months again. Bots don't replace humans in anyway and Survivors giving up needs to be addressed more than anything balance oriented right now. At this point it's ruining my survivor experience far more than my killer experience even though I detest it from both sides. Unfortunataly bhvr wants to keep a leave game button with no penalty only for survivors and the community coninues to think it's normal for people to be able to stop playing a multiplayer game whenever without consequence.
Hurry people! Flood the thread about how "People Can't be forced to play a game they don't want to play". Yes, that's true for all multiplayer games, but no other game lets people ruin the game like this, not a single other game I have played besides CoD in the last decade which for me is only beneficial when a player not trying leaves in CoD.
Every single thing you think people can do to stop playing the game can be punished.
AFK, DC, Suicide(which is probably on the chopping block if bhvr knows whats good for the longevity of the game). Factor in BP, conspicuous actions outside of chase and exclude anyone under 50 hours and your fine. The community(survivors) are so conditioned to be able to leave at the sign of a fractured toenail that fixing innate problems like tunneling and camping will only reduce the rate of DC/Suicide by 20% if I am being fair. This community, I swear. ..
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Hope not... most people want to play with or against other real people, otherwise they'd voluntarily play against the bots in custom. Removing penalties makes it easier for people to just duck out of every game that doesn't go their way, other than just one or two before their penalty drastically increases.
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I think they should, yeah.
It'd keep everyone happy.
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I'm okay with it after the have bots in the game for a while and iron out a good balance for them. Make sure the bits aren't total idiots but aren't 100% accurate etc. If they can make the bots perform comparable to average players I'm for it
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It shouldn’t be removed. Your opponents and teammates are entering matchmaking to play with real players. Bots are an alternative in the event someone DCs, which is better than nothing at all but is still far from ideal. If someone wants to play with bots, they’d create a custom lobby to do that, not join public lobbies with other players. Bot replacements or not, DCs still have an impact on the game.
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There are no plans to remove the DC penalty.
DC penalty exists to discourage players from disconnecting and to give a cooldown period for those that quit out of rage/anger. This isn't going to change with the implementation of bots.
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Why would it be removed? you are still taking away from the experience of the other players and you need to be punished for that
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NO. Anyone who messes up the match by doing a DC should be punished. I'm thankful for the bots, but I don't wanna play with bots every single match because some divas refuse to play against certain killers.
If you're tired of DBD or your internet is struggling, take a break. Stop ruining other people's matches.
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The penalty should absolutely still stay in place. You're still degrading the quality of the experience for all other players by quitting. Bots are a great solution but still not the same as having all human teammates present.
Play the game or take your penalties. Simple as that.
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People disconnect for the silliest of reasons though and, if anything, the penalty should encourage players to learn and perhaps overcome those scenarios. People disconnect because they do not have the right map, or the killer they want, or that the killer has Lightborn, or the survivor blinded them once. It's just silly.
The disconnect needs to stay for this reason, as well as the good point @Mandy made to give people, who disconnect out of anger or frustration, the time to just gather their thoughts and regroup.
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remove the penalty for killers at least
they shouldnt be forced to play out games vs bots just because survivors cant handle their emotions
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If anything penalty should be increased.
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We don't need to give more incentive for people to d/c out of matches. Bots are not a perfect replacement for other people and bot behavior can be highly exploitable.
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Two follow up questions on DC penalty:
1) Is there any chance of "Specific Repeat DCs" having an increased penalty? For example players who always DC against Nurse or Skull Merchant.
Regular system: 1st DC = 30sec ; 2nd = 2min ; 3rd = 5min etc.
What about players who DC any time they play Nurse? Say they have not DCed in a week, but they have DCed against 10 nurses in the last month. Could players such as this have a permanent(or long lasting) increase DC penalty for specifically DCing against the Nurse?
2) Is there any plan (that is discussable) regarding early game "killing self on hook", similar to DC penalties?
Thank you very much as always for the communication & information you provide!
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No, because we still don't want people DCing left and right. In almost any conceivable case, having a live teammate is going to be preferable to having a bot teammate.
Having fill in bots will already embolden more people to DC, ditching the penalty on top of that would result in chaos.
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Nah keep the DC penalty.
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Bots are a bandage on problematic players, not an endorsement of them. This is mitigating the damage DCing players cause, it doesn't mean DCing is suddenly okay.
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bots definitely give survivors the green light
any survivor on the edge of dcing that stuck it out for their team will pull the plug no problem now
and killers are going to be stuck playing out games vs mostly bots
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I'd prefer if the penalty was more severe with each occurrence. Clearly people are still too eager to leave for any reason whatsoever.
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Remove the dc penalty? gross. Quit dcing in your games and you wont face a penalty. Bots replacing dc survivors is going to ruin this game.
I really wish bhvr wouldn't make this change. I don't want to play with or against bots, I queue up to play with or against humans.
If you can't handle the game then don't queue up. Stop ruining the game for everyone else. We all get tunneled, we all get face camped, we all get bm'd, gen rushed, we all have bad games etc etc.
I think we need harsher DC penalties. First offense should be 5 minutes. Yes I know it would suck for people who's game crashes or they lose their internet. You can blame the rage quitters though as it is entirely their fault we actually need stricter penalties in the first place.
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I'm all for bot replacement. I think it will be far more healthy for the game than what we currently have.
My only concern is when people kts on first hook. I feel if someone has been sacrificed completely on their first hook within so many minutes of the match starting, they should be replaced also. It's obvious they are "going next"
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Actually we needs to do opposite, start with removal of hook suicide.
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