Survivor state

I don't know what game you're playing but I certainly want no part in this.

I agree with you that solo queue survivor is a nightmare for the majority of the time, but hating on Wesker and Demo is kinda wild to me. They're so well designed in my opinion and are probably my top 2 favorite killers to play against because of how many opportunities to mind game are on both sides. I can admit though that Weskers hitboxes on his dash are a little clunky sometimes but I believe that's more ping related than bad hitboxes.

I've played dbd less and less lately - and when I did I soon remembered why. Last year around this time I easily clocked 60hrs/week as surv (yes, about 99.5% of my free time went to dbd) - now I'm at maybe 5-7hours per week. It does feel stale. And with everything that's added or changed it rather feels like the list of viable options is further reduced.

Now, tbf, I think Wesker is pretty fun to face and I do actually think he's pretty well designed. The other killers you mentioned... well, idk. I have a soft spot for the giant Turkey and the bird lady. Demo I rarely see, and if I do it's with his best addons.

Anyway, the point I actually want to address is this one: "And those survivors that stuck around and have knoweldge of this,form the SEAL SWF groups that terrorise the killers,by genrushing and picking the worst map offerings known to mankind.."

This is, imo, the core of the issue (dev-side things like map design, hook/gen spawn rng and bugs/exploits aside). The game is extremely beginner unfriendly. And especially toward survivor beginners. Ever since the basekit buffs last year, beginner killers do have a way easier time getting a quick start - while survs have it that much harder to get anything resembling a start. The skill curve is more like a massive wall on surv side. Few stick it out, I for sure know that about 90% of the people I played surv with over time and that weren't already heavily invested in the game stopped because the barrage of all the things to know and keep in mind and execute was too much to keep track of and the matches and results way too frustrating to continue (and 90% of the ones already heavily invested stopped because they got bored/frustrated with how copy-paste-y matches are - but that's besides the point here). The ones who do also seem to often have a particular very ambitious, competitive, almost obessive side to their personality; they just can't help but to grit their teeth and tough it out until they firgured out how to come out on top.

This results in two big camps with some vets somewhere in the middle; All the ones who never scaled the wall. The few who did. - And well, some who've played enough to sort of keep up with the ones who scaled the wall (or who've given up and play their own little game among the oens who didn't scale the wall).

But if you have two groups so far apart (and this to a large degree coincides with swf vs soloQ, I would assume. Simply because it's easier to tough the start out in a group) how on earth do you balance anything? If you keep nerfing survivor the one group will be absolutely destroyed. If you buff surv/nerf killer the other group will turn a match in their own playground with the killer being their plaything.

Balancing for "top fifteen percent" or sth of the likes is all good and dandy - but the game still has to be playable (and a game is only actually playable if it's enjoyable) for the remaining 85% of players. Which it isn't in its current state.

Most killer designs are just bad, but if you don't like facing wesker in chase I have 0 clue who you want. He is simply the most well designed killer since Blight kit wise. His power has a lot of room to outplay.

There's a reason solo will never be boosted to the level of swfs. Solo makes up the bulk of the kill rates. A dev said that being in a swf can increase your chances of survival by "up to" 15%. So solo staying weaker than swf is by design, because if you strengthen solo then kill rates will drop. Even killers know this, it's why so many admit to lobby dodging perceived swfs. They'd rather play against solo teams because the lack of coordination makes them easier to kill - and they don't want counters to their effective strategies. I play solo and I just can't see any way they can throw us many more bones without p*ssing off lots of killer mains.

Last time we had metrics, solo q was about 60% of the survivor population, and the other 40% were SWF in either 2-, 3-, or 4-man squads.

While impossible to match in the real world, it's theoretically possible for the game balance to require coordination to survive at all. BHVR could, in theory, make it nearly impossible for solo q to escape.

If solo q had a nearly 100% kill rate, and SWF has a nearly 0% kill rate, the game would still be 'balanced' according to the devs at a global 60% kill rate, for example.

Devs already stated that SWF is a very low number. I feel a lot of killers believe they are going against a SWF and just aren't.

At low MMR yes, at high MMR (with SWF) it is pretty much 100% escape

The actual META is garbage and SWFs are using tools you cannot compete with :

• off the record
• syringue or antiseptic shot
• DS
• SB/Lithe etc..
• map offerings

That game has become a garbage experience where everything is off balance :

• way too many ultra safe loops
• broken loop imbrications with strong tiles right next to strong jungle gyms creating infinites in pretty much every trials
• just 3 or 4 killers with real anti-loop
• many survivor sided maps
• items + add-ons way too strong
• perks completely changing the balance of the game to the point it is impossible to balance it

At high level there is nothing to enjoy in this game anymore. Strong killer will face sweat unbeatable SWFs, good survivors will get 100% of camp/tunnel killers.

I would like you to show us how you win against a high MMR SWF :)

And then show us how you play in soloQ as a survivor.

I'm tired of ppl like you having 0 argument and just being sarcastic and giving ad hominem attacks.

"Blala you are wrong because i have decided you are"

You obviously play at a really low level to think that killers are OP, i do not even know how it is possible to believe this 😂

You clearly have a skill issue if you can't win a game with your SWF using META perks. Yo uare obviously a baby player with barely 1000h of playtime 😂

Then you point out my comment is a bait while i have given many fair points. You haven't however so who is the troll ?

Imagine arguing that killers aren't OP versus solo queue, which is the main reasoning behind the thread. Nobody cares what you run in an SWF when you can call out various information on the fly and reliably count on how your teammates perform versus the random nature of solo. Where every two to three games, you'll get a DC at the start of the match versus killers on your skill level, while your teammates can have less than fifty hours in the game and not even four tiered-up perks. Where a Jane will farm everyone off the hook for free points and not even bother to take protection hits. Where the killer is rewarded for camping and tunneling out the first player they catch with healthy grabs off hooks and the inability to communicate a coordinated save. Where any of your teammates will be running a challenge that requires throwing the game, killers have control over this compared to solo.

Dead by Daylight heavily favors killers in most games played as a whole, as they're simply not balanced for the swift nature of matchmaking, leading to the randomness of solo queue, the ridiculous aspect of challenges where you need to throw the game, and the easy ability to lobby hop to your preferred group. They even let you gauge the group with prestige levels, outfits, names, and items. You can pick Skull Merchant; most lobbies give up or disconnect on sight.

I had just gotten out of a game RIGHT NOW where a Mikaela disconnected after going down to a Wesker at the start of the match. These matches aren't even counted, yet there's zero point in playing the game as survivors lost. The kill rates would be even higher if they were counted.