I'm sorry but I really can't wait until they release the new face camp feature so killers can't get
I'm tired of killers playing like jerks when we're not even finished one gen and they want to just face camp someone
fine sure turn it off at the end but I don't care anymore that you wanna ruin other people's fun at the start of the game
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If it weren't at one gen and were at 3-4 the complaining would be the same. After the change the complaints will still be the same. If the gates were immediately powered on being loaded into a trial people would complain about not spawning next to an open gate.
I see face camping like one out of every twenty matches. That's being conservative. It's really not a huge deal but this community has to be hyperbolic about everything.
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I had a match earlier like thos today. It was a Bubba on Mother's Dwelling that camped two survivors first hook till they died. Me and the last survivor popped the remaining gens, and right as the exit gates opened, he popped up to hit us with NOED. Like, he didn't even do anything that match and was rewarded for it.
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Not sure if anti-face camp gonna fix it or anything, do you just unhook yourself and immediately get tunneled by same killer who facecamped you, and resulting faster hook state? that actually makes facecamping more feasible, because it'll be most efficient method of tunneling.
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If you can't use the BT and subsequent speed boost to get to a safe loop you're probably doing something very wrong.
If you're truly concerned about it being to your detriment to take your free deliverance; simply do not do so.
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not from every hook you can reach a safe loop. it depends on map, rng and how many survivor resources are left. blanket statements like yours are useless.
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The thing is, people don't like that the main gameplay feature of the game is removing their ability to play.
Killers in these forums frequently moan about survivors having no counterplay under certain situations, but when the guy that someone stared for 2 minutes and had to leave the match with 2000 BP after using a BP offering complains about facecamping, killers come out to defend this "strategy". "There's 4 of you, you can still win", "Sometimes killers can't do anything and that's the only way they can get some points", "There's too much gen speed, this is survivor's fault", "Well, survivors "tunnel" generators, so what are we supposed to do"...
In the end, instead of all agreeing that the game should have comeback mechanics for both sides and that at no point in the match standing still should be the best strategy (facecamping, gate camping and 3-gen setups, off the top of my head), people would rather just defend unfun and unengaging gameplay because "Well, I lost this match, so I have to resort to low counter strategies because I am soooo high level and these survivors are 100% SWF".
To put it in the same way you did with survivors and the gates being immediately powered: Even if not facecamping gave survivors a 100% repair speed penalty, losing a SINGLE game would still make these types of killers feel like facecamping is justified. People don't like losing and don't like admitting their own faults, so if they can cheap out a kill, they will, with 0 regret.
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Ah I see, so survivors can now waste little more time before they die by leaving hooks near the next stage.
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They are playing. Sometimes in CSGO I get my head popped right out the gate. I'm still playing the game, just waiting for the next round. When the killer kills you, you are playing the game. Not how you want, but you're playing it.
Also I find the "killers this" and "killers that" tribalism just so so so tiring. Demonizing a whole ass half of the game for what reason? It's pointless.
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demogorgons are the most likely killer to facecamp/tunnel for me, its almost everytime.
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Anti-Face Camp won't do much of anything. Solo Queue will still be plagued with massive altruism. Trades will still happen. Snowballs will still happen. It won't fix the core issues.
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I feel you too much in CSGO dude.
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When is the change coming ?
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Maybe face camping is there idea of fun?
I've "lost" plenty of games a killer due to making my own fun. Camping and tunneling can be fun.
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The anti-facecamp change is extremely niche and won't have any effect in actual games. It was very clearly done to counter a specific Twitch streamer who does it excessively and while hitting on hook. It took BHVR one year and 500+ consistent viewers to realize something was wrong with this "strategy" but at least they addressed it.
Following this change, facecampers will adapt and find the next busted "strategy" within a week, then we'll have to wait another year. So regarding your main complaint "I'm tired of killer players being jerks", I'm sorry to say that this is delusional and currently the best solution is to simply not play DBD, killers still have 50 other ways to be jerks, like holding a 3-gen for an hour, excessive slugging etc. Even prior to this update facecamping was objectively one of the least effective ways to win. It does grant easy win against 90% of solo queue players, but there are other ways to win that work against 100% of them.
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I happens in Monopoly too.
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Survivors move at 4,4m/sec for 10 sec after being unhooked.
Thats a sole distance of 44m. (Not taking into account taking a hit and getting a second speedboost)
A radius of 44m equals a coverable area of about 6100m²
The biggest map in the game is mothers dwelling with an area of ~ 12.000m²
So you are telling me, being able to cover half of the map, including being invincible, without doing anything for it, is not enough?
What do you want? A jetpack to fly across the map? A teleport?
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It's not going to do anything 🤣
You're still going to get camped if you decide to get yourself off the hook you get tunneled down and put back on the hook.
This so called camping fix is to stop players from killing themselves on hook. Not to stop the killer from camping.
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My first game last night was against a Huntress. She caught a Cheryl first. Proxied the hook and still went after the Cheryl instead of the injured unhooker. Proceeded to tunnel her until death. We got all gens done, Feng/Me ran out the gate to give our 3rd teammate who was in chase a chance for hatch. Huntress caught her and carried her to gate?
So you tunnel/camp Cheryl ruining her match only to then let someone leave at end?
I logged off. To many trolls, sweat lords, and toddlers playing DBD these days.
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while i dislike camping with my soul.....you are talking about "Mother's Dwelling" which is now even waaay survivor sided , still one of the biggest maps in the game and more safer than the old one , I dont blame that bubba.
if you play that map correctly against a m1 killer , easier 4 man escape , 3 if someone gets camp to death.
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Exactly. A benign argument. This is like comparing a whale to a shark because they’re both in the ocean.
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Why can't people react to a complaint, no matter if they agree or not, in an adequate manner? FR, all this exaggerated "hur dur killer complain so much, they will only be satisfyied once survivors start on the hook hur dur" on one side and "hur dur survivors complain so much, they will only be satisfyied once the gens are autorapaired and the exit gates powered on start up hur dur" on the other side are so puzzling. Is this a joke? Do some people find this funny? Do they think thats some kind of clever retour, showing how wise and farsighted they are? I really don't get it.
What I get is that this game is full of issues and both sides have valid complaints about numerous problems. Sometimes solving this problems involves nerfing your favorite side or even taking away your favorite toy and breaking it in front of your eyes. And sometimes this process won't be working on a quit pro quo level, ie you don't nerf one aspect on that side and one on the other. Sometimes you do, but sometimes you just try to repair one damaged system at a time. at times this will create gross imbalances, when one side got nerfed so much that the other can walz all over, but thats its own issue.
Peeps will just have to accept that most likely both sides are correct and have crazy stuff going that need a bit of fine tuneing. So talk it out and discuss, but all this "hur dur I am so clever by attacking the other side with a gross overexaggeration" aint cutting it.
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Cool story bro.
😂
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Ok, confused on the pointless reply.
But whatever
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Just another edgey mcedgerson of edgerton lane being an edge lord. Disregard. Lol
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Its always the killer mains that say stuff like that. “Reach a loop with base bt” or “go down by a pallet with ds”🤦♂️
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Are survivors going to be given the option to free themselves from 1st annnd 2nd hook stage while being camped, or will the new camping meta for killers become 2nd hook to death camping only?
Just wondering. btw, I don’t favor camping as a viably acceptable “strat”
…don’t camp; haven’t ever, never shall I.
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Spoiling your fun as a survivor.
What an entitled statement.
Killers job is to kill survivors. How they do it without cheating is their choice. Killer is not there to ensure survivor has fun.
Don't like it play something else.
And no I don't do it before you come back with some toxic comment.
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Don't like it play something else.
Thank you for saying this.
The right changes could be done if players that don't like camping and tunneling would play some thing else.
Continuing to keep playing only says your perfectly fine with killers camping and tunneling.
It's the same with everything else everyone complains about but, are willing to give them their whole paycheck.
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Bcs it is straight up facts
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It's not a job. It's a game. Talk about player entitlement.
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They always do it at 4&5 gens, too. Laughable "strat".
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Ita from both hook states. But the complaint that killers have atm isn't about that they can't camp anymore is that this will also punish those who don't camp as well
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