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Will Singularity become one of the lowest picked killers?

Ever since his release day when I have seen 2-3, I have not seen them since then. I've seen more twins than him and I thought it would change with the buffs from the 7.0.1 patch but he is still yet to be seen. Is this just me or is nobody using him? I mean I've seen way more twins when their chapter came out than I have the singularity which is quite shocking.

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  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,475

    After all his changes he's certainly not a bad killer, he's just hard to play and not very fun for most people. Similar to Artist in a way.

  • Kius
    Kius Member Posts: 140

    Very weak in chase if the survivors hold an emp.. you're most of the time using the pods to "patrol" gens.. it's very high risk if you try to use pods during chases and miss but if you land is rewarding but not worth it considering gens are flying nowdays.

  • CorvusCorax86
    CorvusCorax86 Member Posts: 1,072

    I think so. Some will main him and destroy every kind of team (including SWFs). Kinda like SM. I wonder those desperate to face him will have nicknames for him to express their hatred.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 3,120

    The Singularity outclasses a lot of killers, and I personally don’t think it’s weak. But it’s good that the devs anre appealing to the most common demograph (low to mid-skilled survivors). Not every killer needs to be as oppressive as Blight or invalidating as Nurse. I hope in the future they make more killers as fair and balanced as this one. And I hope you personally play them, and only them.

  • Zaydin
    Zaydin Member Posts: 275

    He's an extremely easily countered killer by any remotely competent group of survivors.

  • TotemSeeker91
    TotemSeeker91 Member Posts: 2,358

    There's too many things to do with all these recent killers, too much to keep track of, that's why I personally like doc, just zap, and blast

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,842

    You forget that most survivors aren't that bad. The vast majority of all players are in mid MMR range. This killer is specifically designed to be as easy to counter as possible. Singularity is not oppressive in any way. That might sound good but it only makes this killer undesirable to play, which makes it irrelevant how nice it is to go against this killer.

    They did a good job designing a killer that is fun to play against. But that is useless, if no one wants to play it. You can make an argument that Singularity isn't so bad when you become good with it but who wants to put in a lot of hours on a killer that is outclassed anyway. Why not play Wesker, Blight, Oni or Huntress instead? They are all much stronger and have lower skill floors.

  • dbd900bach
    dbd900bach Member Posts: 699

    It's been quite the opposite. Generally your pods will be down all the time if you only put them at gens. If spreader throughout the map properly you can hit most survivors. If they emp, they'll just hit again by a different pod in the right circumstances or you teleport before they can pull the emp off

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,517

    The thing is at least with Artist you're never locked out of her power and Artist power is very strong when mastered.

    Singularity's power you not only have to deal with survivors being able to hard counter your power, but you can just be on a map that doesn't allow you to do much with your power anyways. And the worst part is the reward is medicore since Overclock's duration is so short. He just doesn't excel at anything to warrant using him.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,949

    "Artists surveillance is better"

    On what planet is Artist better at surveillance than Singularity? At most you can make an argument that in the first minute or so of the game you get better intel with Artist or possibly certain maps like Lerys. But once Singularity gets his pods distributed throughout the map there isn't a killer with better intel than Singularity.

  • Stroggz
    Stroggz Member Posts: 500

    Constantly changing the point of view is tiresome. I don't think i will be playing him very often.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,517

    Also let's not forget Artist's power has no vertically to it. Meaning maps with multi-levels or even maps that have a gen on a different level, make it harder for her to surveil.

    The main difference is that Artist's surveillance is more threatening, because of the risk of follow up for a damage state whereas Singuarlity can often not be able to do anything from his bipod location.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 3,120

    “That bad” is relative. All we know for sure is most survivors don’t escape their trials. The kill rate indicates an average of 2.5-3K.

  • Kius
    Kius Member Posts: 140

    I'm glad it's quite the oppossite for you not what I've experienced myself. That said. Point stands the power is very high risk and moderate reward in a game where you can lose up to 3-4 gens before you could down someone specially with todays meta.

  • Nazzzak
    Nazzzak Member Posts: 5,653

    I'm seeing him regularly. Haven't seen a SM in weeks though

  • appleas
    appleas Member Posts: 1,128

    Playing Singularity really makes it obvious that the devs don’t play the Killers they design.

  • Generator
    Generator Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2023

    Idk i've seen him plenty. I haven't seen anyone use The Dredge at all though

  • dbd900bach
    dbd900bach Member Posts: 699

    That feels more like time and attention is being put into the wrong area. The very beginning of the game is when the Singularity has the most strength because it's impossible for survivors to have a emp so there's no counter.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,367

    He's great fun to play against so I really hope killers continue to play him. I can't see myself playing as him though as he is difficult to play well.

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,842

    And even that is old data. Like, really old. Almost a year at this point. And the game has changed a lot since. We really have no idea about the current kill rates. I estimate they are about 55% but that is only a guess.

    And for BHVR to react as quickly as they did with Singularity, I think that shows just how bad it was underperforming. Now, it's a little bit better still I don't see a reason to play as it. If I want to put myself in a losing position I'll play pallet Freddy. If I want to play a hard killer, I'll play Oni or Billy. Singularity just doesn't stick out in anything other than mediocrity.

  • MrSlayer
    MrSlayer Member Posts: 189

    I really, really like Singularity, but his power feels like a second job. It's just rarely fun to use.

  • ClownGuy5
    ClownGuy5 Member Posts: 85

    Ummm Artist power synergizes verrrry well with DMS and being able to scout 3 gens at the same time while also moving around the map is also better.

    Singularity has to switch between pods that may or may not be EMP'd while being stationary and not really creating pressure.

  • fulltonon
    fulltonon Member Posts: 5,762

    Artist doesn't need to stand still and watch around all the cameras taking like two-digit seconds.

  • Glaive
    Glaive Member Posts: 75

    A killer with a high skill ceiling needs high reward, Blight is hard to play as but you get rewarded for it with quick downs, Hux is hard to play as, you spend all that time setting up, but you get nothing for it because your progress just gets deleted by an EMP, it just feel’s frustrating to play as, i set up all these cameras, quick switch between all them with required map knowledge just about tag a survivor, oh never mind I have to replace all my cameras and do it again.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 1,819

    I missed the first week of release while out of town, and have yet to play against him. I've seen a Twins and a Freddy, but no Singularity. It's purely anecdotal, I haven't seen a Pinhead in that timeframe either and don't consider him in anyway rare.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 3,120

    I see it more than several other killers (Hag, Freddy, Skull Merchant, Trapper, Hillbilly, Knight to name a few). It’s not much to go by but I think the Singularity will remain decently popular.

  • DredgeyEdgey
    DredgeyEdgey Member Posts: 1,373

    Fine let me rephrase that then

    Artist has more consistent surveillance with a usable power

  • Steel_Eyed
    Steel_Eyed Member Posts: 4,033

    I don’t know if they’ll be able to tune him much more than where he’s at now. Just the understanding the camera orientation is the only problem I really have.

  • JustAnotherNewbie
    JustAnotherNewbie Member Posts: 1,941

    SUrvivors may not be bad, but to play good as a team you need co-ordination. Survivors not on SWF have an inherent disadvantage due to lack of communication. On top of that the matchmaking doesn't ensure survivors of the same skill level always get matched. You could have differing levels of experience in a lobby. Even being in a SWF with your mate doesn't mean both of you know how to play well, or know enough.