No Made for this nerf in the midchapter?

Are you, by chance, a survivor main?

Also to nerf mft, just disable it in the endgame.

i do not believe you when you say you're having fun with the game. i believe this because threatening to play in a way you (presumably) figure survivor players would not like was your reaction to a survivor perk not being nerfed, and to me that only makes sense as the reaction of someone who plays a game they dislike out of a misguided sense of obligation.

you are 100% free to do the exact thing i've been doing for the past several months and stop playing the game. for me it was the poor handling of the DDOS situation (once we figure out how players were getting DDOS'ed and how to prevent that i may return but until then no dice). for you a perk that you think is game breaking can be that reason to take a break or even quit entirely

No Tattered Tabard, opinion discarded

Made for this doesn’t need a nerf, it’s easily counterable with anything that causes exhaustion and there’s a lot of perks that do that, the 3% haste isn’t a whole lot, and anyone who says mft with hope is broken hope gives you 7% haste permanently once all gens are powered which is more than twice the bonus mft gives you, the speed with mft on its own is hardly noticeable

Just run play with your food.

You'll go 15% faster and smoke anybody running MFT.

Start running more slowdown perks and put on some insta-down add ons and you're golden.

Please, please, please stop comparing MoM pre nerf to MfT, it’s extremely clear you didn’t play when that perk dropped to keep up this analogy multiple times.

What is old MoM, I've seen it multiple times with people saying it was really good, but what did it do?

It literally made it so if you take three hits (no other requirements) you would get endurance the next time you were supposed to go into the dying state. It could activate at any time and this was also when self care was the most popular perk in the game and you could get this perk to proc multiple times per game.

You know how you have to take 3 protection hits and then you get "super endurance" for the next hit with it now, where there's no Deep Wounds but you just glow white and shrug the hit off completely? It was the same, but replace protection hits with just basic attack hits in general. The 4th hit on a survivor in a match would always be shrugged off as long as they had the perk equipped. In other words unless you almost exclusively downed them with instadowns/powers or did something hardcore camping/tunneling related, it would be guaranteed to happen as long as they had the perk.

It's up there in the unholy pantheon of Very Bad Additions along with other strong contenders like the (luckily) extremely short lived change that completely removed all need for timing for pallet/flashlight saves and release Legion in my opinion, and if we include stuff from ancient DBD add stuff like insta-gen BNPs and no-hook moris to that list.

Not necessarily.

Made For This has very little requirement for huge reward with the 3% movement speed bonus - all you need to do is become injured.

Pain Res is dependant upon RNG and which hooks become Scourge Hooks and you still need to spend all that time chasing, downing and carrying the survivor to the hook. Some games you may only get 1 token of value from it, or none at all.

As for Jolt, it has a radius limitation and you need to down survivors in the radius of progressed generators.

So whilst in your experience you may see Pain Res and Jolt in almost every game, there is much more effort required and many more limitations and restrictions with these perks that make them much more balanced perks in comparison to the infinite 3% movement speed bonus from MfT just for being injured.

I’m simply basing my argument off yours. Your argument insinuated that MfT needs to be nerfed due to pick rate.

The devs don’t favor one side or the other, if MfT was truly as OP as people on this forum try to make it, it would have been nerfed before it even released on live. Yes, it’s a strong perk. Yes, it has little requirement. Is it overpowered? Clearly not, they would have butchered it already if it was.

me when

Its always the same. Survivors get a perk thats used somehow situational, instantly its OP. Killer mains are so simple its already sad.

I believe Otz said it best, "Made For This is very, very, very, strong but you won't get much value out of it running in a straight line. You really feel it as killer when running tight loops due to the survivor's smaller hitbox." Or something along those lines anyway.

I get where people are coming from with the comparison to old DH, but at the same time that was used in situations to guarantee that you make the pallet/vault. Made For This allows you to make the pallet/vault you would've made anyway if the killer didn't have bloodlust. There have been innumerable times where I would've made a pallet or vault, but didn't because the killer had that 5% haste. At BL1, the difference is 2% which means that the distance at which you would usually lunge, you'll come up just short.

Made For This is the kind of perk where if you nerf the haste bonus, then it becomes useless. Likewise, if you slap a cooldown on it, it becomes useless. The only nerf to it that could work is removing the endurance aspect of it, which would be fine.

I think that it would be for the best if the endurance aspect were removed from it, and a downside were added to it that incentivises survivors to heal. As an example, Made for This activates and you benefit from the following effects:

• Gain a 1/2/3 % Haste Status Effect while running.
• You suffer from a 5%/10%/15% penalty to Repairing while injured.

Alternatively, a token system would also work where for every x amount of seconds spent injured while not in chase, lose a token. Once all tokens are gone, the perk deactivates for the remainder of the trial.

The Problem i see is, that in the past, the devs also didn´t see a problem with other perks like OoO or DS. Just because their stats didn´t show an overwhelming high escape rate for survivors that used those perks. While ignoring, that those perks increased the escape rate of everyone else.

But we´ll see.

Not over-commiting. But being able to reach a pallet or window, with the extra speed. Can prolong the chase considerably. Which in return gives the teammates more time to repair gens = higher escape rate.

Also, with 3-4 survivors using the perk, where does the normal chase for a down end and where does over-commiting really start?

How would you know this?

You can´t know this until you have chased and injured all survivors.

Okay, we are talking about 2 different things here. One is, YOU as the killer knowing the survivor has MFT and in the best case scenario break the chase to avoid prolonged chases. Because you can´t know the other survivors have it, until you chase and injure them all. A killer can´t know what perks survivors have equipped in the lobby.

The other thing is the stats of the devs on which they base their buff/nerf decisions on. According to them, MFT is fine. So no nerf incoming. It can take years until they change their mind. See DS or OoO.

You established, that a killer should break the chase of a survivor having MFT instead of over-commiting. But the killer won´t know if switching targets is the best choice until further in the game, when he managed to hit the other survivors.